I'm curious. What exactly do you want a stylus for, on an iPhone? For art?Time to bring the Apple Pencil to the iPhone Pro.
I'm curious. What exactly do you want a stylus for, on an iPhone? For art?Time to bring the Apple Pencil to the iPhone Pro.
I’ve owned almost every iPad since the original and owned macs for nearly 2 decades…..if you must know my “lived experiences” (whatever that means anyway in regards to tech).Good God, we are in the beginning? How old are you, I'm curious what your lived experiences are. The iPad is 9 years old. iOS (which I lump the iPad in with) is 14 years old.
iOS/iPhoneOS/iPadOS were not written from scratch, but were a modified OS X kernel and share much of the same code. Ok, may not sound important, but it is. They had a fully capable underpinning before they even started, unless the OS creations of the previous generation.
14 years...what can one accomplish in 14 years? Ignoring Apple is a 2 Trillion dollar company and basically would have trouble spending a near infinite amount in R&D (they would likely run out of capable developers long before they ran out of money), what have others done with far less market cap at the times?
Microsoft took Windows from Windows 1.0 which barely did anything and required DOS underneath, to the powerhouse that was Windows 2000 in 15 years.
The only reason iPadOS is standing still is because Apple choses to have it stand still.
Windows 10 active user base is 1.3 billion. for iPad it's around 400 million. That's the number that matters.Another iOS that’s currently outselling Windows laptops. Acer, Dell and HP WISH they could sell as many laptops as Apple sells iPads.
What confuses you about his statement? It seems that you will not be happy until the iPad ceases to be an iPad. Most iPad users do not want that. I understand that might be hard for you to internalize, it is what Apple currently thinks as well (based on their behavior).iPad Pro is not Mac. What are you thinking?
I do not ignore them, nor have many of the others on here who have responded to your posts. However, there is a difference between acknowledging you exist and agreeing with your views. You are part of a vocal minority with whose views we disagree.Why do you even ignore those people complaining about the limitations?
Your chart shows web views. Not a particularly valuable metric, given that most iOS users use apps to get to sites, rather than web browsers. Sorry. Microsoft says there are about 850 million Windows 10 users. Apple has stated they have over a billion active iOS devices. There may or may not be more Windows users than there are iOS users, but the numbers are close.iOS chart shows ALL iOS devices and iPadOS devices.
The iPad’s market share exceeds exceeds that of the Macintosh. Neither of them exceed the total market share of Microsoft Windows. The estimates are that macOS has a 7%-15% share of desktop/laptop OSes. The iPad has a similar share.Do you really think iPad Pro has a large market share?
No, you keep fail to prove it. At this point, I have no words for you and it does not change the fact that iPadOS is limiting the hardware power and many users aren't happy.Your chart shows web views. Not a particularly valuable metric, given that most iOS users use apps to get to sites, rather than web browsers. Sorry. Microsoft says there are about 850 million Windows 10 users. Apple has stated they have over a billion active iOS devices. There may or may not be more Windows users than there are iOS users, but the numbers are close.
The iPad’s market share exceeds exceeds that of the Macintosh. Neither of them exceed the total market share of Microsoft Windows. The estimates are that macOS has a 7%-15% share of desktop/laptop OSes. The iPad has a similar share.
The word many is macrumors and tech sites, the average person does not care nor what’s inside the iPadNo, you keep fail to prove it. At this point, I have no words for you and it does not change the fact that iPadOS is limiting the hardware power and many users aren't happy.
Really? 1 anecdote is your proof that people don't like a Mac touchscreen?Because my BF had one. The Cintiq supports touch and he had on connected to his Mac Pro. He stopped using it in favor of an iPad Pro connected using Sidecar.
Just because Apple has not shipped one, does not mean it does not exist.
What I love about this discussion is on one side people who effectively say that Apple is too stupid to understand that what most people want is a touch screen Macintosh, and when people point out it exists and is a bad user experience, the response is that Apple is so smart they can figure out how to make it work.
Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
All I see are imaginative speculations and personal opinions.Because the poster lives in Realville and knows Apple has no plans for a touchscreen Mac in the foreseeable future. Why would anyone want a touchscreen Mac? To look at fingerprints all day. You have a mouse or trackpad to click on anything your heart desires.
People keep explaining it, but you do not like their answers, so you say they have not done it.Then what's the point of making PRO version iPad while OS is limiting the power? You still can't explain why after all.
If the Surface provides the experience you want, I suggest you get one. Apple is not going to build what you say you want, because they understand that you are part of a tiny minority and not one of their mainstream customers.And I explained every clearly: Windows 10 unlike iPadOS limiting several things. And do you really think Surface is the only tablet laptop? Gosh. Since you never bring up some proofs, you just admiring the limitation of iPadOS after all.
Yeah, the only thing is that I want it to the Apple Pencil 2. Can't stand the 1 due to the charging method.So in other words, just the pro-motion display, as the current iPad Mini supports an Apple Pencil.
Yup, that's why I am eagerly awaiting it.If you do not care about that, then it is certainly possible the next refresh would work for you.
I would buy it whether it's M1 or A14How much would you expect to pay for this device?
Your statement was:Really? 1 anecdote is your proof that people don't like a Mac touchscreen?
To which I replied that you were incorrect, that have have been touchscreens that support the Macintosh. While I think my BF is unique, I am pretty sure there have been other people who have connected Cintiq’s to Macintosh systems. I am also pretty confident that Apple themselves have built touchscreen systems for user testing.How would you know people won't like to have a Mac touchscreen display if it doesn't exist yet?
You are correct, he is just one of many people who at one point used a Cintiq on his Macintosh and no longer does because it was an experience inferior to that provided by Sidecar.Your BF is not all or even most people.
And none of them convincing especially without providing proofs like you. Have a good day.People keep explaining it, but you do not like their answers, so you say they have not done it.
I will try it one more time, and then, if you have not come up with a new argument in support of your position, I will simply ignore you. :-D
Those of us who prefer the iPad as Apple sells it, like the cleaner, easier interface that the iPad and iPadOS support. We do all sorts of content creation, drawing, video editing, sculpting and other professional tasks on the device and like it to have performance headroom for even more powerful apps specifically designed for the iPad in the future. What we do not want is macOS on the iPad. Many of us have macOS systems (I use an iMac Pro as my desktop, formerly belonged to my BF, and he uses an 2019 Mac Pro with 96GB of RAM and the AMD Radeon Vega II Pro Duo). Both of us have used Macintosh systems with touchscreens. Neither of us still does because it is a horrible experience.
That is the explanation. You may not agree with our reasoning, but you cannot argue we have not provided it.
If the Surface provides the experience you want, I suggest you get one. Apple is not going to build what you say you want, because they understand that you are part of a tiny minority and not one of their mainstream customers.
That does not answer my question. How much would you expect to pay for this device?I would buy it whether it's M1 or A14
Apple didn’t become a 2 trillion dollar company by being foolish. Sure they have hits and misses, that’s life. They clearly want people buying a Mac, iPad , iPhone , watch, etc.. Weather or not you like that is irrelevant, but it’s the truth. Their job is to try and make good products and make money. Business 101. Clearly it’s working as Apple has become the new Microsoft in regards to how big they’ve gotten and all the hate. Fun times!
No, you keep fail to prove it. At this point, I have no words for you and it does not change the fact that iPadOS is limiting the hardware power and many users aren't happy.
Me: Present a comparison between sales of devices by Windows vendors and iPads.iOS chart shows ALL iOS devices and iPadOS devices. Do you really think iPad Pro has a large market share?
How about one's which run in 24 and 30 inch flavors. That run macOS instead of iPad OS. Mounted on a large base which allow a wide range of tilts all the way to full horizontal. Making for a great competitor for the Surface Studio.
His statement was that Apple has no plans to build a touchscreen Macintosh. Again, here two articles that talk about what Apple has said on the topic. No speculation nor personal opinions.All I see are imaginative speculations and personal opinions.
Sorry, you are the one claiming that most people want that and so need to provide proof. My proof that Apple disagrees with your analysis of the market is that they keep saying they do. Had to be less speculation than that.Show me proof or citations that most people don't desire Mac touchscreen.