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[Merged] Frash - Flash plugin for jailbreaked iPhone / iPad

p-rice said:
Just installed on my iPad. What an awesome first release! We'll be running flash flawlessly in no time.
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Running flash flawlessly? I think that's the first time that's ever been said...

What do mean by flawlessly? Are you familiar with Flash? When I visit Flash prominent sites, Safari crashes and my Mac slows down for a few long minutes. I am overjoyed Flash isn't there on my iOS devices to crash them in addition to my Mac.
 
halp! someone reprogrammed my 'innerface' :D

I was pretty excited when i read the title of this post, and started thinking about how I'm gonna jb my ipad when i get home from work. Then i started to think about all the sites i could test it out on and after about 5 minutes realised that there isn't really anything i need it for :confused:

I don't know whether it's because I've learned to live without it or simply because i never really needed it.... aside from for watching pr0n, but even those guys are starting to go the html5 route now :p

I'll probably still toy with it at some point as a web developer as a lot of web applications for education use Flash, and we've a work ipad that i can abuse without ballsing up my own :D
 
bri1212 said:
Don't you people get it. Flash is the past. Stop living in the virtual '50's, as far as computing goes.
There isn't one programmer who is putting flash on a new website,
and not because of Apple, but because it looks and works like crap!
It is a technology that is outdated, passe, kaput. If you don't think you have problems with flash, then why does your PC freeze for no reason, when your looking at a site. It's because some half-a$$ed programmer, with a Programming for dummies book designed the site and innerface. There is no quality control with flash. There are plenty of opportunities for virus and worms. None of these are the reason that Apple doesn't allow flash. That doesn't change the fact that Adobe could have made flash viable, but figured it wasn't necessary. Now all of you that want to use flash, go and get frash for your iphones and I pads, but don't come crying to me when your frash becomes crash
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I don't disagree but I'll take the chance. See, I like choices. I like jail breaking and rooting for that very reason.

I'm technically adept enough to understand the risks. That being said, bring on more hacks. Frash is a perfect example of why locking down devices for those of us who know what we are doing is an exercise in futility.
 
What's with all the negative blah blah blah? If you don't like it, don't use it, don't read threads about it and don't bash people who are excited about it or are at least willing to give it a try. I don't give a crap about what it does to the battery. Get this: it's rechargable. I can plug it in, recharge the battery and keep using the iPad at the same time! I can even watch a minor league baseball game or a hockey game via streaming flash while it's recharging and since that's the only format most teams use, I'm really hoping it works. Here's something else; I paid for my iPad, I'll do whatever I please with it and Jobs and his little cult be damned. If he doesn't like it, he can come pick it up and leave a check on my desk. Short of that, who cares what he thinks about anything. We've all read all the horrors of flash ad nauseum, no one has anything new to add at this point so if you don't like it, leave. It's that simple.
 
realeric said:
So, why doesn't Flash work perfectly even on Mac? Adobe has failed to develop a flash player for 64bits MS Windows. If Flash became a standard, nobody could make a new system without Adobe's permission and prompt corporation.
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Thats was Apple's fault. Apple didn't allow Adobe to use the GPU for the rendering, so it had to be done on the CPU instead. thats why its called a CPU hog. Now Apple is allowing people to render graphical things on some GPUs like the 9400m and better. Apple allowed this change very recently, and Adobe has a beta version of it that uses the GPU. So it is Apple's fault that it took so long, but now that Adobe can take advantage of thew GPU, its up to them. They seem to be making progress with the betas.
Apple is to blame here. Adobe can't just make flash use the GPu if they don't have the ability to do so.
 
ouimetnick said:
Thats was Apple's fault. Apple didn't allow Adobe to use the GPU for the rendering, so it had to be done on the CPU instead. thats why its called a CPU hog. Now Apple is allowing people to render graphical things on some GPUs like the 9400m and better. Apple allowed this change very recently, and Adobe has a beta version of it that uses the GPU. So it is Apple's fault that it took so long, but now that Adobe can take advantage of thew GPU, its up to them. They seem to be making progress with the betas.
Apple is to blame here. Adobe can't just make flash use the GPu if they don't have the ability to do so.
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BS. Flash was crap on OSX well before Adobe started applying any GPU acceleration. This first release version of Flash to utilize the GPU for video playback just came out of beta a couple of months ago.
 
err404 said:
BS. Flash was crap on OSX well before Adobe started applying any GPU acceleration. This first release version of Flash to utilize the GPU for video playback just came out of beta a couple of months ago.
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I'm pretty sure the GPu accelerated version is still in beta. they did release a new version several months ago, but that was NOT the GPU accelerated one. It was suppose to reduce the CPU usage though, but it wasn't the GPU accelerated one.
 
Crackbone said:
I don't disagree but I'll take the chance. See, I like choices. I like jail breaking and rooting for that very reason.

I'm technically adept enough to understand the risks. That being said, bring on more hacks. Frash is a perfect example of why locking down devices for those of us who know what we are doing is an exercise in futility.
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the device is only locked down as much as your car is without adding a turbo or a simple air intake adapter or your bicycle was before adding gears. some people are happy with the car or bike as it came and some want to know what it is capable of.

i think the iPad as it sits is perfect for about 90% of the people that use it and they either don't know or don't care about what it "can" do.

my wife (not to say all people who don't care are women) has an iPhone running on another carrier other than ATT and has a theme (winterboard) running on it she absolutely loves and her friends say "how did you do that" but although she loves it if it wasn't themed and didn't run on Tmob or didn't have Google Voice (which she loves) she would not miss it had she not had.

that is how i am feeling about having flash on my iPad. i wasn't actually upset about not having it from day one but when it was offered out to the JB people i grabbed it and it works well enough to se "what your missing" but to be honest i realized i wasnt missing anything i wanted. the videos i want are pretty much available to me and i dont play flash games so now i see advertising that i didnt use to see. who cares about that.

i have it and most likely going to delete it until there is an option to turn it off and on when i rarely need or want it.

big props to the dev's that were involved and i think it is great to have as an option.
 
I will wait to hear from people who have used this in their everyday normal use. How is the battery affected? How much is the speed affected?
 
After I installed this I ran into the problem I had on my rooted droid with flash. I had to google flash sites just to see how it works. I don't see what the big deal about it. The normal user just gets to see annoying flash advertisements instead of images.
 
Thadon said:
After I installed this I ran into the problem I had on my rooted droid with flash. I had to google flash sites just to see how it works. I don't see what the big deal about it. The normal user just gets to see annoying flash advertisements instead of images.
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Since most current Flash games and apps will have interface issues, until they add video support, it's mostly a curiosity.
If there is a big uptake in Flash use on Android, you may see more apps optimized for touch.
 
Don't think I'll bother quite yet. Not into flash games too much, I'd hate to see flash ads on the websites I visit, and no video. Get video flash workin though and I'll be all over it.
 
That's not an offical release comex released it for other developers to work on it but engagdet went ahead and published the unfinished version.
 
OGDaniel said:
Running flash flawlessly? I think that's the first time that's ever been said...

What do mean by flawlessly? Are you familiar with Flash? When I visit Flash prominent sites, Safari crashes and my Mac slows down for a few long minutes. I am overjoyed Flash isn't there on my iOS devices to crash them in addition to my Mac.
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Just buy a real computer (PC), those handle Flash easily and do not crash.
 
Jailbreaking required.

I don't miss flash at all on my iPhone4/iPad, so Jailbreaking it just to get something I don't miss is hardly worth the effort.
 
Hulu can still block ipads from watching video on hulu.com the same way they block PS3s.
 
Comex has done this it's still in beta. somebody sent it to Engadget before Comex was ready. as far as I know it will only run on Ipad right now. and I personally wouldn't touch it out of respect to Comex. and if he hasn't released it himself there might be a reason. ;) just wait till he releases it.
 
labman said:
Comex has done this it's still in beta. somebody sent it to Engadget before Comex was ready. as far as I know it will only run on Ipad right now. and I personally wouldn't touch it out of respect to Comex. and if he hasn't released it himself there might be a reason. ;) just wait till he releases it.
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Great advice - almost exactly what I was going to say.

Personally, I wish they would at least let the community know where they are on things. Nonetheless, they are def. smarter than I am and have to worry about Apple catching on and fixing holes before they do.
 
Arisian said:
Personally, I wish they would at least let the community know where they are on things.
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While I agree in principle, in practice this would be a disaster.

There are already enough morons who start threads about when will the iPhone4 jb be ready, as if anyone on here would know. The old adage is true, "Those who know are not talking and those who are talking don't know."

Then the threads fill up with even more moronic 'me, too' posts. If they published any kind of estimated timeline or percentage complete the same kind of people would then bug them and start threads about each step in the process. The people who are working on this can be followed on Twitter and they post just enough to determine if they are making progress. Planetbeing has tweeted about working all hours of day and night, forgetting to eat, etc. and that still isn't enough for the Moronic Monitors.
 
labman said:
Comex has done this it's still in beta. somebody sent it to Engadget before Comex was ready. as far as I know it will only run on Ipad right now. and I personally wouldn't touch it out of respect to Comex. and if he hasn't released it himself there might be a reason. ;) just wait till he releases it.
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I for one downloaded it and am enjoying it even in it's limited functionality. I respect Comex as well, but I don't see how not downloading this means much to him. I understand it is a WIP and when the first official release is out I will re-install and gladly pay the going price or the requested donation (if any).
 
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