Okay well I finally got the iPhone to react to my shirt. I had to pull my shirt back on my finger with my thumb with an extreme amount of pressure, and apply a firm amount of pressure onto the iPhone screen for it to work. Now my philosophy on this, is that since the shirt was pulled back so tightly, and I was applying alot of pressure, the digitizer detected my skin through the little holes in my shirt.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
[Merged] HTC / Verizon Droid Incredible
- Thread starter FlavaFlavez
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I tried my shirt and with my finger behind it, it activates the screen just as if I was touching it. Not a t-shirt but a button down shirt I am wearing. If I double up my shirt it's flaky. So it must be how thin the shirt is I guess.
I also did not have to apply any pressure. It was like using the phone without my shirt between my finger and the screen. Lol.
I decided to buy an HTC Incredible for a 14-day trial (restocking fee if returned) to use alongside my iPhone 3GS. Today is day 3 with the Incredible, and I like it more each day. It has replaced my 3GS (now a backup game player for the kids), and I doubt the next iPhone will bring enough to replace my Incredible (though I won't hesitate to switch back if it does).
The iPhone definitely is a simpler, smoother experience. It is the better device for a lot of people, but I'm not one of them. There are too many useful things I can do with the HTC to go back to 3GS. I'm keeping a running list here of some of those things as time goes along.
The iPhone definitely is a simpler, smoother experience. It is the better device for a lot of people, but I'm not one of them. There are too many useful things I can do with the HTC to go back to 3GS. I'm keeping a running list here of some of those things as time goes along.
I have a reason against everyone of those features. And also, what are you going to do when you finally realize that Android has 50,000 apps total, and that the iPhone has 50,000 games, just games. We have more games in the App Store than Android has in its whole market place. Also we have about 200,000 apps in the App Store now.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say the settings are a labyrinth. Most things only seem to be a few clicks away for me?
Let's say you want to get to the battery section of the settings, you can just press the global search key and then type in "battery" to save time.
One of my favourite features about the Desire (and also the Incredible - since it's essentially the same thing but with enhancements) is that it doesn't lag... ever. Seriously, the one and only thing that causes my phone to slow down at all is going into the manage applications section, and that's because it lists thousands of things that you can uninstall if you don't want them.
The Android Market is growing at a rapid pace and will probably eventually take over the App Store. Android is so much more open, and therefore app developers have a lot more freedom to work with when creating apps.
Let's say you want to get to the battery section of the settings, you can just press the global search key and then type in "battery" to save time.
One of my favourite features about the Desire (and also the Incredible - since it's essentially the same thing but with enhancements) is that it doesn't lag... ever. Seriously, the one and only thing that causes my phone to slow down at all is going into the manage applications section, and that's because it lists thousands of things that you can uninstall if you don't want them.
The Android Market is growing at a rapid pace and will probably eventually take over the App Store. Android is so much more open, and therefore app developers have a lot more freedom to work with when creating apps.
Who in the world has time to look through 50k apps? I'm sure with that many apps there is already "an app for that" in Android as well. Not to mention it went from 25k to 50k in something like 2 months so I'm sure it will be up to 100k in another couple of months and probably 200k by the end of the year. But do you really think 50k apps is a deterrent? Sounds like more than enough choices to me. (And in all honesty, you know that a good deal of the 200k on the iPhone are basically redundant or multiple re-skinned versions of the same apps anyway).
Yep, Android already has a lot of the more popular iPhone apps
Shazam, Rhapsody, Pandora, Last.fm, eBay, Facebook, Twitter, National Rail, Bank of America, Spotify, etc etc.
+100000000
I can hardly keep up with all the games and which ones are the best. Then when I get into a game, I am so into it, I forget to even check the app store. Got into pocket legends and been playing that nonstop. The average person doesn't need that many games to keep them happy. I am content with a lot of the big name titles and even then the only game I have been able to complete ( due to time restrictions ) is GTA.
I might be one of the few that find the Apple App store intimidating. There is just too much to sort through. I am sure Android will get to that point. Luckily most of the stuff I use on a daily basis comes with Android OS.
What types of useful things? I am just curious since I gave it a brief run through of some various day to day tasks when I had it to see if it could "replace" my 3GS.
Looks like my thread was merged.
How is coverage, down/up speed and render speeds on the htc incredible vs. iphone and att?
In "normal" conditions, the Incredible is faster when loading pages. My brother and I tested this yesterday. His loaded a lot faster, including flash. My 3GS was not doing so hot. Again, they were not "ideal" conditions for testing.
My Incredible is on par with my computer when loading pages. It's ridiculous. I LOVE my apple products, but speed is on the side of the Incredible as of today. Who knows after July?
I played with the Incredible at the Verizon Store and it was very nice. Very smooth operation, the screen was crisp and very clear. If I had Verizon as a carrier I would buy one. The iPhone is going to have some serious competition soon and the lack of supporting flash is going to hurt even more. Jobs had better wake up.
I'm not trying to convince you. Whether they count those features as a positive or negative to you is strictly personal.
I don't use a ton of apps on my iPhone, and the Android market has my needs covered.
Some examples: Google Voice-transcribed voicemail, free turn-by-turn GPS, being able to see all my home screens at a glance (like Exposé), text reflow when browsing, better quality YouTube video rendering, ability to view the Flash figures on the Google Analytics page, listening to Pandora while browsing, automatically updating all my podcasts on a schedule without syncing to a computer (probably an app for this on iPhone; I never looked until I cut the cord to iTunes), ability to use widgets on my home screens, tethering, voice transcription for composing emails and text messages.
Seems pretty similar to me. I don't notice a big difference, but I have great 3G coverage from both ATT and Verizon in my home/work area.
There are some issues with the Incredible. The screen is less viewable in sunlight (tried side-by-side with iPhone today). It's much harder to pinpoint a place in text to put the cursor than it is with the iPhone. It's a bit harder to hit the right keys in the keyboard in portrait mode, although I've started using Swype for text entry. Occasionally the browser gets glitchy, and I have to close it and restart it (I've also had this with the iPhone, just slightly less often). Battery life seems shorter with the Incredible, but I have been using the hell out of this phone with Wifi + 3G + GPS + Pandora in background while playing games, etc, so it's not easy to say for sure.
Based on my experience, the Incredible is a little more complicated and glitchy than the iPhone, but it's more fun and, despite fewer apps, does more of what I want.
I just got an Incredible as well.
Like most powerful devices, it's going to take me a few days to figure out all the options. But that's mostly because they're so numerous, not because they're hard to find.
(I remember playing with a Palm Pre for a little while when they first came out, and wasn't impressed. It took getting one and actually using it for a few days to appreciate it and see the genius in its UI.)
VOICE INPUT and MENUs
I'm really liking it more and more, especially using the universal voice input button on the onscreen keyboard. It sure makes life easier to say what you want in a text field instead of typing. Works great.
Took me a few minutes to get used to using the Menu button, but that's actually similar to a Blackberry. The good thing is that means more of the screen is usually by each application to display info instead of menu items.
HOMESCREENS, WIDGETS and SCENES
Just got the hang of the homescreen/scene thing. Basically, you have seven homepages that you flick left-right between just like on the iPhone. However, clicking the Home button takes you to the middle page. Clicking Home again shows all seven pages as miniatures so you can click and go straight to any.
You can customize each page by adding app icons, shortcuts, folders and widgets. So you could make it look just an iPhone if you just used apps, shortcuts and folders.
The real power is adding widgets, which can take up any rectangular icon section. For example, I have a main home page with the clock, weather and calendar. The page to its left has some apps, and moon phase, WiFi, backlight and Pandora widgets. The page to its right has pictures of my favorite contacts for quick dialing. There are some good widgets included, and many more available online.
Thus you can make each screen contain just what you want or need it to. It can be passive or active, depending on the widgets. Very nice.
Finally, you can have multiple sets of these seven launch pages. Each set is called a scene and has a common background image (which can be animated, btw). So during the day you could have your Work Scene set of screens with no personal items. At night, you can switch to your Night Scene or whatever.
BROWSING
The first mobile browser I've used that beats mobile Safari, IMO. (Palm's browser is good too, but doesn't have the hardware the Incredible has.)
On the Incredible, it's fast. Really fast. On WiFi, bringing up a page is like being on a laptop. Panning is very smooth, as is zooming. A nice touch is text reflowing in many cases, so a column will reflow to fit your zoom level.
A nice surprise was finding that a lot of Flash sites actually work to some extent, because of the included Flashlite 4. Even my favorite restaurant's site that used Flash as an intro came up for me. Woo hoo!
APPS
Their store was easy to use and I found the apps I needed. The only one missing for me right now is Slingplayer and that's coming this summer.
All in all, another great smartphone to choose from.
Like most powerful devices, it's going to take me a few days to figure out all the options. But that's mostly because they're so numerous, not because they're hard to find.
(I remember playing with a Palm Pre for a little while when they first came out, and wasn't impressed. It took getting one and actually using it for a few days to appreciate it and see the genius in its UI.)
VOICE INPUT and MENUs
I'm really liking it more and more, especially using the universal voice input button on the onscreen keyboard. It sure makes life easier to say what you want in a text field instead of typing. Works great.
Took me a few minutes to get used to using the Menu button, but that's actually similar to a Blackberry. The good thing is that means more of the screen is usually by each application to display info instead of menu items.
HOMESCREENS, WIDGETS and SCENES
Just got the hang of the homescreen/scene thing. Basically, you have seven homepages that you flick left-right between just like on the iPhone. However, clicking the Home button takes you to the middle page. Clicking Home again shows all seven pages as miniatures so you can click and go straight to any.
You can customize each page by adding app icons, shortcuts, folders and widgets. So you could make it look just an iPhone if you just used apps, shortcuts and folders.
The real power is adding widgets, which can take up any rectangular icon section. For example, I have a main home page with the clock, weather and calendar. The page to its left has some apps, and moon phase, WiFi, backlight and Pandora widgets. The page to its right has pictures of my favorite contacts for quick dialing. There are some good widgets included, and many more available online.
Thus you can make each screen contain just what you want or need it to. It can be passive or active, depending on the widgets. Very nice.
Finally, you can have multiple sets of these seven launch pages. Each set is called a scene and has a common background image (which can be animated, btw). So during the day you could have your Work Scene set of screens with no personal items. At night, you can switch to your Night Scene or whatever.
BROWSING
The first mobile browser I've used that beats mobile Safari, IMO. (Palm's browser is good too, but doesn't have the hardware the Incredible has.)
On the Incredible, it's fast. Really fast. On WiFi, bringing up a page is like being on a laptop. Panning is very smooth, as is zooming. A nice touch is text reflowing in many cases, so a column will reflow to fit your zoom level.
A nice surprise was finding that a lot of Flash sites actually work to some extent, because of the included Flashlite 4. Even my favorite restaurant's site that used Flash as an intro came up for me. Woo hoo!
APPS
Their store was easy to use and I found the apps I needed. The only one missing for me right now is Slingplayer and that's coming this summer.
All in all, another great smartphone to choose from.
So in "real" world tests would you say the speeds of both 3g networks are on par? Theoretically verizon is supposed to be slower. How did the prices of the plans differ? Was lack of voice + data at the same time hard to get used too? Battery life is not a big deal, if anything I would buy another battery but at least im getting a lot more out of the phone so I wouldent feel the battery died in vain =P.
Thanks!
LOL. This argument makes me laugh.
I have to agree on one point that iPhone/iPod touch is a better gaming device. But then again, I haven't downloaded one game in my final month with an iPhone. Even with GTA:CW, I quit playing it after 20 minutes. I got bored with iPhone games pretty quickly.
Can an iPhone automatically download new podcast? I think not.
Nexus One/Incredible/Evo is a better phone, hands down.
Yes, in my past 3 days of using both phones, the speeds seem similar enough that I don't notice a difference. The plan prices are similar. I don't use the phone much, so I went with the 450 min plan (in both cases), which for both iPhone 3GS and HTC Incredible comes to the same $40 per month phone plus $30 per month data.
As for lack of voice and data at the same time, that's something I never use on iPhone (I don't use a headset, so when I'm on the phone, it's held to my ear).
kdarling, as a new HTC Incredible user, you may want to check out (and contribute to) this list of tips.
That's worth a lot to me.Welcome, you won't miss the iPhone one bit
And these phones only get better the more you get used to them. The only downside is that the Android Market has roughly a quarter of the apps that the App Store has, but there's less repeated/reskinned apps, and less crap like fart apps so it's all good
Thanks! Already helped me. I didn't know that holding down the Home key brought up the last six apps I used.
So many features built-in on this device. I forgot to mention:
Google Goggles
Google GPS voice navigation
Flickr, Facebook integration
PDF viewer with a jump-to page option
etc
Also, selecting text (which is as easy as on the iPhone) brings up a Copy - Search - Send menu instead of just Copy like on the iPhone. Search looks for more info on what you selected and/or translates it. Cool. Send lets you email/text/Peep, etc the item.
On the downside, I have to put the brightness at full to see the screen outdoors in sunlight. I also sometimes miss the iPhone text magnifying glass to move the cursor.