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ugh!!!!!!!!!!! I am dying for this phone! I bite the bullet and got a less expenive at&t phone to try and though if it worked even half way decent in my area I would break my contract with vzw......but I got not even a hint of a signal in my area! And because of my job I have to have a phone that works and to meantion its my only phone. I was soo hoping it would be out on sprint or vzw.:(
 
Does ATT early upgrade have to do with Verizon getting...

the iPhone? Seems like they want people to upgrade to this cool new iPhone so they're locked in before Verizon gets the iPhone maybe some time this year. I really like the new phone though so I might upgrade from my 3G to it.
 
I'd say it's more of a preemptive strike to calm the masses. Think about last year's launch when people were mad they couldn't upgrade for cheap.
 
To be honest I have had it with Verizon. I have waited long enough but I am done and going to AT&T. Peace out VZW.
 
this is definitely a ploy to lock people in early to additional years, regardless of what other carriers are getting the phone in hte future the day is coming soon, so by moving up the upgrade date, they can lock in people to additional years before any news gets out and they potentially lose customers, good business move, cost them nothing to do it and they get another year of guaranteed revenue
 
I think ATT is just trying to keep the fanboys quiet. Recall the upgrade grousing in years past.
 
Well I'm not a Verizon "fanboy" you tools, I'm quite satisfied with ATT, I almost always have service, but I figured it might have something to do with other carriers getting the phone somewhat soon.
 
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now gtfo
 
It's easier to provide earlier upgrades for the iPhone, as their return on investment is higher than other smartphones. Still costs AT&T an arm and a leg, but with the improvement in data services over the last year, (and hopefully with a newly designed iPhone 4 with better antennas) better voice services also.

I still believe that the iPhone won't make it's way onto Verizon for a while unless AT&T doesn't deliver on it's promise to Apple to improve their network even further.
Note, AT&T spend $9 billion on network upgrades in 2009 (Verizon spend $7 billion). AT&T intend to spend $18-19 billion in 2010.

Verizon are in a good spot with their 3G, but the transition to 4G is going to be rough. 4G LTE is not backwards compatible with their 3G CDMA. That means when they roll out their 4G network, they will need 2 chips for each network. It's still unknown how they will be able to swap from chip to chip seamlessly.
AT&T (and T-Mobile) have a 3G network that is backwards compatible, so they will only need the single 4G chip and it will work fine on the 3G GSM network.
Since Apple isn't really a "phone company" (like RIM and Nokia), they may not want to invest heavily in developing a dual phone that has 3G CDMA and 4G LTE chips and having to make them work together. They have had many documented problems making their current setup to work better with AT&T's network (until AT&T had to go and help them with it).

I'd love to see 10 million iPhones on the Verizon network... as it would also go down in flames and it would shut up the Verizon fanboys.
 
att's coverage isnt that bad! I definitely see the changes in data plans could hinder the overwhelming congestion of their network.

Everyone (almost everyone) I know that has their iphone on ATT tends to have great reception... I talked to my friend in New York for 2 straight hours with no dropped calls, clean coverage. (he has att, I have verizon)...

hell, 2 yrs ago in my own house, I got HORRIBLE reception on verizon, but it seemed to have gotten better.

Some spots are just plain black holes, regardless of your carrier! so, move around a little bit to get better reception.
 
Seems to me like its the case. Why should AT&T otherwise care whether people are eligible for an upgrade... they have to be able to make back their subsidy on these things.

I came from verizon to att for the 3GS. I was thinking about using another family members' upgrade to get an iPhone 4. Seeing as how my 3GS will do multitasking, and how the iPhone 4 doesn't have HSPA+ and doesn't increase storage, I don't know if its worth extending my lock-in with AT&T.
 
there will be a Verizon iPhone when the mayan calendar ends....I said that last month and I meant it...I don't think one will be announced in the next 52 weeks either...where are all those Analysts now? the WSJ guy? the "10 million CDMA iphones are coming guy"? where are they? where are they now....I have some Jane's Crazy Mixed Up salt to go with their Crow sandwiches...or maybe they prefer Tony Chachere's?
 
Seems to me like its the case. Why should AT&T otherwise care whether people are eligible for an upgrade... they have to be able to make back their subsidy on these things.

Dunno if you're aware but when the 3G came out, there was chaos via media outlets, forums, even ATT's own boards.

People paid full retail for the 2G, then EVERYONE got the reduced subsidy for the 3G (everyone who wanted to upgrade).
When the 3G came out, people demanded that ATT give them another subsidy in exchange for a two year contract reset (not extention). Why? Many upset that "Apple comes out with new phones every year" yet "we're locked into a two year contract". They would also say things like "Apple users are loyal and ATT should know we want to upgrade to every new phone!". I kid you not, these are real quotes from a multi-page thread on ATT's own forums.

I'm confused and impressed at the same time. I really didn't expect ATT to cave and give anyone any type of subsidy. But they did. And since no good deed goes unpunished, users will demand the same treatment this time around.

So nothing to do with verizon imo. Just angry users.
 
It's just not going to happen, is it?

I wans't one of those people counting on Verizon. And after the VP went and said they had no plans with apple, I gave up all hope for that. But really.... The iPhone is never gonna be on anything but AT&T, is it?
 
where are all The Verizon "fanboys"? I'm pretty sure they're all in the closet crying about now....

Classic. They always do that anyways after each Keynote.

Lol :D
They never lose hope though.
They just keep on waiting.

You guys are a little bit ... nuts :) Theres nothing wrong with having more carrier options available to us customers. If you are happy with AT&T, thats great for you, but dont be a dips*** fanboy and recognize that AT&T isn't great for everyone and what people are asking for is more of an option while staying with Apple instead of going with Android or BB. With all this said, I doubt even more that Verizon will ever get this phone until LTE really takes over.
 
I have a 3G on T-Mobile prepaid and pay around $100 a year for service. I really want to go to att because hacked iphones just get old and you still need to deal with the crap, and my plan is simply lacking and just not enough.
 
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