yeah, like cell service?
Hahahah yeahh!
When do you think the date for a release on Verizon will be?
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Hahahah yeahh!
When do you think the date for a release on Verizon will be?
They won't announce anything until the first 30 days have passed. That way anyone wanting to cancel has to pay the ETF fee.
Apple can announce to never release iPhone on Verizon network and some of you will still believe it to be some sort of "code" that Verizon will get it soon.
I must have missed the CDMA antenna in the announcement.
Oh, there's a W-CDMA antenna in it. That was stated as fact.
Not that it matters for Verizon at all.
Or they want as many people on the new capped plans before they know what's happening
nope, you don't have to change to a capped plan when you upgrade, so that's not it.
I've been wondering, what is AT&T's motivation for upgrading everyone that has a 2010 upgrade date? That's much more aggressive than in the past.
See, if Apple actually did that, a ton of Verizon customers would give up the wait and switch. More sales for both Apple & AT&T.
SO....why don't they announce it's not coming to Verizon?
i guess they where last year too since that happened then too. i mean do people just keep pushing the rumor back farther and farther? o wait yes. cause they cant get over it.
What is their big motivation to keep the customers happy? Why go to such extremes?
They have a contract w/ Apple, why do they have to go out of their way to keep them happy?
Sorry, but these generic explanations just don't ring true to me. They don't seem typical of a revenue driven business with little competition. Unless they really see Android as a threat...and I just don't think thats it either.
I agree with the OP to a certain extent... more and more signs are pointing to end of AT&T exclusivity sooner rather than later. Does it mean the iPhone on Verizon? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe it's still undetermined. It could be simply that exclusivity is ending but AT&T doesn't know what will happen next, and they are just covering their asses. Heck, Apple may still be in negotiations with Verizon and nothing is final. Those negotiations will be tough, you can bet on that.
So my advice continues to be "it could happen, but don't hold your breath".
So my advice continues to be "it could happen, but don't hold your breath".
well they do have a contract with apple, if they want to extend the contract in the future, i am pretty sure they want to keep apple happy
I just had a thread on the exact same thing but it seems to be deleted now?
edit - Nevermind it got merged to this https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/928042/
edit - Nevermind it got merged to this https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/928042/
I am not sure if I see that. Apple has been very scheduled with their iPhone announcements. With that being said, the next thing mentioned for the iPhone is next June. They usually do not release such important information when other keynotes are going on (i.e. we did not hear about MobileMe, iTunes cloud, Apple TV, etc. today).
Steve-O did say that Atat claims things will get better before they get worse.. He also said things should clear up by the end of summer.
Atat is implementing their new network all over. So maybe all the dropped calls are a switch-over thing?
Atat is implementing their new network all over. So maybe all the dropped calls are a switch-over thing?
If you want an iPhone, the only US ship sailing with that product on board is AT&T. Everything else is simply speculation. You can read the tea leaves, look to the stars, observe meteor showers, whatever you want to do, but from what we can rationally infer, Verizon's not getting the iPhone anytime soon...
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Agreed...despite whatever the reasoning behind it, AT&T is trying to lock more users down for the next 2 years.
No, I've said all along it wouldn't happen today.
The fact that there are fanboys at all for cell phone providers, bet it Verizon, AT&T, Cricket, will never cease to amaze me.
While I respond to the fanboy comments, I'm not a fanboy. I just want to use the phone I enjoy using on the carrier that provides the best service in my area.
Yeah, whoever made the comment that this cost AT&T nothing is an idiot. It doesn't take a genius to figure out the economics on this one. All these early upgrades is costing AT&T quite a bit. Although it's true that the ARPU for iPhone customers is higher, so it's more affordable that early upgrading non-iPhone customers.
You guys are a little bit ... nuts
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LTE isn't backward compatible on AT&T either. An LTE iPhone for AT&T would have to be a chip that supports their previous GSM standards as well.
I must have missed this. Can you show me a statement from AT&T on this? All I've seen are iPhone customer being bumped up so far.
If it were a fall release as has been speculated (and I'm not saying it will be) it wouldn't be announced today.
You don't think the smug smart a** responses we get from the AT&T fanboys are annoying?
Sky high hopes crushed
I'm on the road for business, and was unable to get to a spot to watch Uncle Steve do the keynote. Saw a Verizon kiosk, though, so I swung by to see if there was news. The keynote would have just wrapped up, so if there was something exciting about Verizon, well...figured this was the place to find out.
The guy told me "Absolutely, it's going to Verizon; there's a press conference on right now about it," as he stepped to his laptop to pull it up. I felt like cheering in glee, ready to celebrate....right up until he added "And Sprint is getting it too!"
Uhhhhh...huh?
Needless to say, the lad wasn't able to locate the mystical magical press conference.
Damn. Back in the car, on down the highway, heartbroken. :::sigh:::
I'm on the road for business, and was unable to get to a spot to watch Uncle Steve do the keynote. Saw a Verizon kiosk, though, so I swung by to see if there was news. The keynote would have just wrapped up, so if there was something exciting about Verizon, well...figured this was the place to find out.
The guy told me "Absolutely, it's going to Verizon; there's a press conference on right now about it," as he stepped to his laptop to pull it up. I felt like cheering in glee, ready to celebrate....right up until he added "And Sprint is getting it too!"
Uhhhhh...huh?
Needless to say, the lad wasn't able to locate the mystical magical press conference.
Damn. Back in the car, on down the highway, heartbroken. :::sigh:::
Ive been a Verizon user since Prime Co days and I will always be a Verizon subscriber but Im done. Im pre-ordering my iPhone 4 and will be porting my primary line out. Im sick of waiting and Im sick of Verizon not caring what is subscribers want. My other 3 lines will stay but I know AT&T has really improved its network in Florida so I should be fine. This phone is just too sick to pass up. It is EVERYTHING I ever wanted in the iPhone since I bought the 2G on launch day.
^^^ This.
Again, none of know WHY, but AT&T are spending real dollars and are looking for lock-in. They're making it easy to upgrade (bumping up dates) and also making it harder to leave (bigger ETFs).
I'm not sure a lot of people who read these boards have really deep financial understandings of what's going on around them... ARPU... must mean "Auxiliary Reserve Power Unit," right?
Correct. Why people keep on about this, I'll never know - and they won't either. Blissfully ignorant, I suppose. Everyone's a telecom engineer...
Right.
Again, I'm not saying I know anything, but AT&T are acting like they're going to lose exclusivity, and fairly soon. Perhaps an agreement was reached to allow AT&T a month's head start - or even three - on Verizon.
Who knows? But AT&T's actions tell me something's up.
I have but one reason to hold out hope: AT&T needs Apple FAR more than Apple needs AT&T. Given their relationship and reputations, it would actually surprise me if the original contract lasted all 5 years.
What's the big deal with verizon?
Okay, first off, I'm not bashing anyone begging for the iPhone to come to Verizon... I'm simply curious about the matter. Now, I wholly understand that Verizon has more 3G coverage in the U.S., and that there are less dropped calls. Is that all they offer? And, with these new data plans from at&t, isn't it cheaper now to be with at&t? I haven't looked too much into this, but if I remember correctly, for Verizon smartphones you have to pay a $29.99 data fee, where with at&t it can be as low as $15 a month. Wouldn't this be a draw to at&t? (Yes, I am aware that these are CAPPED data plans).
I don't know... I mean, I personally have not been loving at&t having switched FROM verizon, but living in a 3G covered area, and now having a cheaper data plan, I don't see what I'm missing by not being Verizon.
Plus, and yes this is silly, I much prefer the short "AT&T" on the top of my iPhone than seeing "Verizon" =P
Okay, first off, I'm not bashing anyone begging for the iPhone to come to Verizon... I'm simply curious about the matter. Now, I wholly understand that Verizon has more 3G coverage in the U.S., and that there are less dropped calls. Is that all they offer? And, with these new data plans from at&t, isn't it cheaper now to be with at&t? I haven't looked too much into this, but if I remember correctly, for Verizon smartphones you have to pay a $29.99 data fee, where with at&t it can be as low as $15 a month. Wouldn't this be a draw to at&t? (Yes, I am aware that these are CAPPED data plans).
I don't know... I mean, I personally have not been loving at&t having switched FROM verizon, but living in a 3G covered area, and now having a cheaper data plan, I don't see what I'm missing by not being Verizon.
Plus, and yes this is silly, I much prefer the short "AT&T" on the top of my iPhone than seeing "Verizon" =P