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Microsoft Launches New Surface RT vs. iPad Ad Highlighting iPad Shortcomings

Many of you guys and/or gals are so funny.
Why so defensive about the iPad?

I used the RT and then the Pro, and am currently using an iPad mini. And I wouldn't go on to say iPad kills the Surface in every way possible. It's quite the contrary to be honest.

Whether or not you deny it W8 or even RT is in many ways ahead of iOS and Android. I do agree W8 tablets could be smaller and cheaper but I guess that's what may be in store in the near future.

Not trying to piss anyone off, but just don't act like iPad is king. It's not even close.
 
After using Surface RT for the last 2 weeks, I must say that Surface is superior tablet to the iPad.
Compared to the closeness of the iPad, Surface offers USB port, SD card, real file system, multitasking. Not to mention that I can easiliy hook up Surface to my KVM and use it as a real desktop PC with big monitor, keyboard and mouse.
Even UI is more fluid than my 3rd Gen iPad Retina.

Yes, Windows 8 is a mess but still usable after accepting few compromises. iOS on the other hand is becoming so 2010.
It's really becoming too limiting and at this point its only (and really big) advantage is Apple ecosystem (apps, iTunes).

BTW, Microsoft lied about price ... if you include keyboard price is $449 for Surface vs $499 iPad.
 
Exactly, most knowledgeable tech consumer will make the same conclusion - RT will FAIL and there is no reason for us to spend money on a dying ecosystem.

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sleepyking said:
Many of you guys and/or gals are so funny.
Why so defensive about the iPad?

I used the RT and then the Pro, and am currently using an iPad mini. And I wouldn't go on to say iPad kills the Surface in every way possible. It's quite the contrary to be honest.

Whether or not you deny it W8 or even RT is in many ways ahead of iOS and Android. I do agree W8 tablets could be smaller and cheaper but I guess that's what may be in store in the near future.

Not trying to piss anyone off, but just don't act like iPad is king. It's not even close.
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I think you nailed it. iPad is such a dumbed down device. Put a full OSX (touch friendly) inside and its pure win!
 
Obviously this site is going to be biased heavily in Apple's favor due to the incredible amount of fanboys on here....but personally I think these ads are excellent at showing that the surface is very good option as a tablet and depending on what Microsoft does with Windows 9 I am heavily considering buying one.
 
Except

None of the things the commercial shows are disadvantages. Size, lack of a kickstand, all of these things are purely individual desires. Some (a small number) have decided these things are important. Most, meh. Not important. If you want a kickstand, there's a huge variety of them in the third party marketplace. Keyboards, regular or mini, different inputs and outputs, cases, wireless speakers -- why should Apple screw up the design with one set keyboard, for instance? Some people never need a keyboard, some do -- and there's a good Bluetooth keyboard, many of them actually, that you can pair with the iPad whenever you need it. Next, Microsoft, next.
 
Does Microsoft realize that the keyboard does coast 120-130 depending on which one you go with and that you can buy keyboards for the iPad as well that coast about the same. Just saying lol.
 
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sleepyking said:
Many of you guys and/or gals are so funny.
Why so defensive about the iPad?

I used the RT and then the Pro, and am currently using an iPad mini. And I wouldn't go on to say iPad kills the Surface in every way possible. It's quite the contrary to be honest.

Whether or not you deny it W8 or even RT is in many ways ahead of iOS and Android. I do agree W8 tablets could be smaller and cheaper but I guess that's what may be in store in the near future.

Not trying to piss anyone off, but just don't act like iPad is king. It's not even close.
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I'm certainly not saying that that "iPad kills the Surface in every way possible". Only that Microsoft has completely blown it. How? By failing to properly distinguish Windows RT from Windows 8. Those of us who follow tech understand the differences, but we're the exception. The average consumer doesn't know what ARM or x86 means, or what will vs. won't run their existing software. The iPad dominates the market because of its perceived ease of use. Meanwhile Microsoft has cast an aura of needless complexity.
 
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Throw in the keyboard for free if it is so good. Can't imagine myself to purchase the key feature separately.
 
APlotdevice said:
I'm certainly not saying that that "iPad kills the Surface in every way possible". Only that Microsoft has completely blown it. How? By failing to properly distinguish Windows RT from Windows 8. Those of us who follow tech understand the differences, but we're the exception. The average consumer doesn't know what ARM or x86 means, or what will vs. won't run their existing software. The iPad dominates the market because of its perceived ease of use. Meanwhile Microsoft has cast an aura of needless complexity.
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I think that's fair and I agree MS did not market these products well. Personally I would've liked to see the desktop version of W8 as the only version of W8, while the metro tiles be the OS that directly competes with iOS.

I was skimming through this thread and noticed quite an amount of those who just straight out say Surface is garbage or MS sucks etc. Without probably even using the Surface at all.
Needless to say there will always be biased people on either side of the party, but really the functionality of the Surface and even it's appearance is in many ways more useful and attractive than the iPad.
 
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I think you nailed it. iPad is such a dumbed down device. Put a full OSX (touch friendly) inside and its pure win![/QUOTE]

It would be a win if it could run iPad apps and OSX apps and allowed mouse support. Let's face it the OSX store doesn't have very many apps.
 
Well, I like some of the features the Surface offers, especially the real multi-tasking. It's really annoying when I want to open two things on an iPad. Like when taking notes from a website - I have to jump between these two over and over again.

Some time ago, I saw jailbroken iPad which could handle real multi-tasking. I don't know why Apple doesn't implement such a feature.

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MacMulti said:
Throw in the keyboard for free if it is so good. Can't imagine myself to purchase the key feature separately.
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Like the Smart Cover? Eh.
 
What hurt the Surface sales.

1. They launched the surface RT first. Everyone was curious about the pro and waited to see what it offered.

2. The pro launched 1 year too soon. The hardware couldn't provide the battery life like the RT. So people are waiting for version 2.

3. The price was too high.

4. Microsoft marketing should have compared the RT to the iPad earlier on.

5. The screen format is 16:9 and should have been 4:3.

6. No Visio, iTunes, or visual studio for RT.

What Microsoft did right.

1. Packaged office and RDP for Free.

2. Added mouse support for RT.

3. Made a tablet that works for business.
 
bbplayer5 said:
Fanboy aside... thats pretty impressive. If Apple did that, you'd be lined up around the corner. The only turnout is the name Microsoft.
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lol, no. If Apple released a product like the Surface, I'd line up around the corner... at the nearest Android retailer.

But the fact is simple: Apple would never release something like this. That's why we like Apple, because their products don't suck. Not the other way around, which you seem to be thinking.
 
What's great about all of these anti-iPad Surface ads is that they're absolute right about all of the iPad's shortcomings. What sucks about these ads is that the Surface is nowhere near the answer.
 
Michael Goff said:
Wrong.

You get Office for free with the RT.

The only restrictions are the ones that Home and Student have.
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Oh so I now see, but it's only word, excel, PowerPoint and one note. Also Microsoft's own site days that it has 'most' the same features as the win8 version, so it's not the full software.

You should see what iWork has lined up, definitely going to be a credible competitor to Office on mobile devices.
 
Whadya know...

...someone over in marketing figured out that Microsoft should quit doing precision dancing skits and actually show what their products can do.

Those previous Surface ads are the most product disconnected ads I have ever seen in my lifetime. Who gives a s*** about a bunch of people flipping a stupid *********g tablet and keyboard cover around, while doing a dance choreography routine?

Apparently no one. If MSFT is lucky, that commercial indicates they have fired their previous marketing company. Thus far, they have not even recovered their advertising spend in sales.

:cool:
 
The surface is the device that you can't charge while connecting an external monitor? Yes it is, cause the connector positions are badly designed...
 
Michael Goff said:
It is more in magical iPad land where Apple makes everything better.
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Well a surface RT at 32 GB only comes with 15Gb of actual space, whereas a 32Gb iPad comes leaves about 29Gb or so..... Now tell me which is better?

Also MS advertising an 'integrated' keyboard as a comparison to the iPad? Blatant lying as that is actually sold seperately, which costs significantly more than the Smart Cover and keyboard cases/attachments available for the iPad....

I'm not a die hard apple fan as I hate Mac OS, I'm a windows guy when it comes to my computer, even I can see MS are just being dicks here.


mattferg said:
No, Office 2013 RT Home and Student comes free with the Surface RT. Your reply is incorrect, his was correct.
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I was thrown as it's not proper Home & Student, it's RT Home and student, due to him not being specific.


IconicM said:
I knew it.... no MS Office for iPad until the surface is dead. MS just sucks.
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Office is on iPad, it's only a limited version though and you need 365. iWork is looking like it's going free and will be way more powerful, especially if you check out the web version.


HenryDJP said:
When exactly did Apple abandon Safari on Windows? It's still there for download? Even if you're correct do you really wanna go there? Not many people where using it when Chrome was available. It's not the same when Microsoft abandoned I.E. for Mac. That was the time when many websites were coded using I.E. and Active X and we were forced to use I.E. for Windows or get lost. Not having Safari on Windows does nothing to Windows.
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Actually I'll give him the safari thing. They stopped it and withdrew it from download when the last big version came out, which annoyed me as I was looking forward to iCloud tabs.

Rad99004 said:
Packaged office and RDP for Free.
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From what's been seen, iWork will become free when iOS 7 is released. So they'll have that advantage.
 
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