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Microsoft Posts 'PC vs. Mac' Section to Windows 7 Website
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Thanks for your comments - on reflection, you're right. I've made some amendments to the article which will hopefully increase facts and reduce sneer - fisk v1.1, as it were
You missed the point entirely. It was about misrepresenting the truth. If it's okay when Apple says things like: "macs are fun because they are good for videos, editing photos and creating music and PCs are only good for pie charts and spreadsheets" then they are misrepresenting the truth. It doesn't matter if you are a gamer or not, but you sure as heck can do all those things on a PC that they listed. Running bootcamp means that you're using windows so... you've kind of just admitted that MS was right and you are using their products to do things you can't do on OSX.
Gamers weren't the targeted group with that Ad campaign. More like the average family in california, who takes snaps of the son's baseball game, movie clips of the latest Disney World trip, etc, and want to send a nicely edited DVD to Grandma to Florida. And those things were much much easier and faster to do on a MAC with the iLife suit. Windows didn't have anything by a long shot.
And that is a fact.
Not sure by know, but last time I looked, Windows 7 didn't even ship with a desktop mail client.
And miss out on a nickel a post?
Nice wheels.
Seriously, DIY PC enclosures suck. All of them. I shopped every one in creation back in the dark days when I was building PCs for my own gaming and for friends/relatives who wanted them. Utter crap. Ugly, cheap, tacky. Why do they all need so many stupid drive blanks on the front face? I would have paid good money for something of Mac Pro caliber. Sadly there was nothing even remotely close. I ended up with a Coolermaster Wavemaster, which sadly is no longer sold.
Somebody needs to man up and design/manufacture/sell something worth owning. Something like an HP Blackbird would be nice. Of course DIYers wouldn't buy such a beast because it would 1) be too expensive (and it's all about squeezing blood from a penny, you know), or 2) not have enough of TEH NEON LIGHTS AND DRAGONS AND NINJAS AND STUFF!
So these Lian Li cases suck and are hideous?
Or here's the Silver unibody aluminum case from Silverstone
Why continue saying stuff when you've already been proven wrong? There are A TON of all aluminum sexy cases for Do it yourselfers that are gorgeous. But they're usually $250 and up.
Oh snap! I am convinced. I am going back to windoze now. I am selling my Macs on Craigslist. I have too much free time now that I don't have to troubleshoot a windoze driver issue or something.
Ah, what a fine and ground braking machine that was ...
I know who you are... Buzz!
You really, really shouldn't call the Windows lovers desperately defending Microsoft names like this. It is actually quite insulting, and I stopped reading what you wrote after this line.
What are you comparing? If you compare Apple and Microsoft, Microsoft has 73% of the OS and 0% of the computers, while Apple has 27% of the OS and 27% of the computers. I'd say Apple is far ahead, since computers cost much more than operating systems. If you compare Apple and other computer makers, Apple is in the lead as well.
Get a Mac ad: Macs can do fun things - PCs can also do fun things.
Never did they say: PCs cannot do photo and movie editing, music making, although the Mac solutions happen to be much easier, more streamlined, and problem free.
PC vs Mac, OTOH erroneously states:
Mac's can't connect to an XBox - Connect360
The mouse works differently - Logitech mouse works exactly the same on a Mac
Mac's, out of the box can only encrypt the Home Folder - completely untrue
Sharing is harder on a Mac - completely untrue, the obverse is true
Macs don't work as well at work or at school - LOL²
Macs might not like your PC stuff - they read all Word, Excel, Powerpoint, documents, and even run Windows programs via Crossover, or Windows.
MS also failed to mention that their own MS Office Suite happens to run natively on a Mac.
Shortcuts work virtually the same way, if not more simply.
Connecting a PC to a TV is much more complicated than Mac's EyeTV solution.
Exposé (2003) is loads more efficient than "Snap."
All in all, sadly amusing.
You miss the point as does everyone who complains the 'Get a Mac' ads were wrong. All advertising is designed to build up a product's good points while ignoring the product's bad points. Humorous ads are particularly that way. Remember the 'Where's the beef?' Wendy's ads from the 80s where they seem to be implying that McDonald's sells burgers the size of a coin? Was that literally true? Of course not, and no one on Earth thought it was meant to be taken literally. It took a fact (Wendy's burger patties were bigger than McDonald's) and exaggerated for humorous effect.
The 'Get a Mac' ads used humor to exaggerate truths to the point where if taken literally would be untrue, but no one on Earth took them literally except MacRumor complainers and Windows fan boys. Can you edit photos and make movies on a PC based on what Windows alone gives you? Yes. As easily and as elegantly as on a Mac? Most people would say no. Do the vast majority of PCs in the world today get used for business purposes? Yes. So Apple used humor to make a general point.
These Microsoft ads are different because they are making factually untrue statements. Apple never said it was impossible to make a movie on a PC, it merely implied that you use a PC to do spreadsheets (as most do). Microsoft, in contrast, is making actual written statements that are false on their face. That's sloppy of them, and hardly humorous. It just makes people laugh at Microsoft.
Those 'Get a Mac' ads? They won awards and drove business to Apple. Only a vocal minority complained about them and claim they were a problem for Apple. It was just the opposite.
The windows 7 mail client is free through Windows Live Essentials. And it is not a 'fact' that is it easier to do these things on the mac, I think you're being a bit biased here. How about BluRay authoring or even playing for that matter. Last I checked OSX doesn't have native BluRay support *at all* and that may not bother some guys on here but a lot of people have migrated to the medium and use it regularly.
I haven't had to fiddle with windows drivers since Windows 98. Oh and it's so clever and witty how you came up with the term "windoze" how did you come up with it
. I just don't like when Apple OR Microsoft misrepresents the truth in their ads.
The windows 7 mail client is free through Windows Live Essentials. And it is not a 'fact' that is it easier to do these things on the mac, I think you're being a bit biased here. How about BluRay authoring or even playing for that matter. Last I checked OSX doesn't have native BluRay support *at all* and that may not bother some guys on here but a lot of people have migrated to the medium and use it regularly.
I haven't had to fiddle with windows drivers since Windows 98. Oh and it's so clever and witty how you came up with the term "windoze" how did you come up with it
How about Ballmer & Co. devising the "clever and witty" concept of having retail stores and employees wearing multi-colored tee shirts. How they ever conjured up that idea is beyond me.
Ok, now back to my Craigslist posting to sell my Macs due to all the free time I am not enjoying. I would rather be trouble shooting anti-virus software conflicting with my network applications.
I responded to your complains about the 'Get-a-MAC' campaign. So yes, I still say, in those commercials Apple was correct. Things like Movie editing, writing music (on an non professional level, targeted for average users) they were of course easier to do - and way more powerful. During the 'Get-a-MAC' campaign time (XP, Vista), Windows didn't even ship with a software suit comparable to iLife.
Or do you want to argue, that let's say Windows Movie Maker was on par with iMovie?
So for an average user, in order to get similar results one could achieve with the iLife suits, you have to go through the hassle of selecting/choosing and then downloading or buying: - a music software, a web publishing software, etc.
How could that be as easy as the iLife solution?
Funny, you haven't mentioned Microsoft's misrepresentations.
Ok I'll address that now.
1. They mention you can't get a mac with a blu ray player and that you can play blu ray on a Windows 7 computer with a blu ray drive. - TRUE
2. Can't connect mac to XBOX360. I have seen some guides online of how to do this but it seems that the average user would probably have difficulty fiddling with network settings. But since they said you "can't" I have to call this FALSE.
3. Direct TV connection does require a dongle. TRUE
4. Things don't work the same on a Mac as on a PC. TRUE. They don't work the same.
5. Windows 7 has snap. TRUE. However Mac has expose so they aren't really gaining any points with this statement.
6. Touch and go can be used to flick through newspapers etc. using your fingers. TRUE. However the iPad and iPhone/iTouch have something similar so this is also neutral.
7. Using Apple's suite of productivity software can be difficult to share with those who are using PC software. TRUE. My keynote presentations never ever look 100% perfect when using powerpoint which is required when giving presentations at conferences in my field - like it or not.
8. Need VGA dongle for presentations with a mac. TRUE.
9. Folder encryption. Not sure but I'd probably have to go with FALSE. Although I have no experience in this area.
10. Mac sharing - at work I brought my MB a few times to try to get it onto the network and our IT guys and I couldn't get it to interface with our printers, plotter and network properly. It just didn't seem to want to connect. I'm not a network engineer but I tried my best and looked online but still couldn't get it to work. With the new windows laptops at work that arrived connecting was as simple as entering a password.
11. Files from Apple's suite won't open on a PC. PARTIALLY TRUE PARTIALLY FALSE. If you convert them they will work but still from the documents I've seen there have been some formatting errors and they don't quite look right.
12. If there is a mac version of a program you will have to buy it again and relearn it. PARTIALLY TRUE PARTIALLY FALSE. Yes you may have to buy it again but for the most part the programs across both OS's are mostly the same if made by the same company.
13. You can't get a mac with tv tuner, blu ray player, memory stick reader, or built in 3G wireless. I don't think you can configure these items from the apple store can you? I'm just unsure about the memory stick reader.
14. Color. TRUE. (but who really cares).
15. Digital media. TRUE but you can download other software to do this.
So there you have it, some false, some true. I don't like misrepresentations from MS or any company for that matter.
Honestly I can find quite a few very good looking cases for below $100 easy. Antec makes quite a few good looking cases. Cool tech as well.
LOL!
"Macs don't have blu-ray players."
Who the hell needs a blu-ray player in a laptop? I'd rather watch a blu-ray on my 47" HDTV - not my 15" MBP.
"Macs don't have blu-ray players."
Who the hell needs a blu-ray player in a laptop? I'd rather watch a blu-ray on my 47" HDTV - not my 15" MBP.
You are right that usually people do not have problems with Apple drivers the reason being - in most cases the devices do not have drivers for Apple products
Well, I will give you credit for pointing those out and for taking the stand above. All companies misrepresent things in the advertising sense where they talk up their good points and ignore their bad. But Microsoft has been convicted in several courts of law around the world of lying to regulators, businesses and consumers. They have a long history of pushing misleading articles in the tech press. They have used their PR firm to astroturf on issues. In other words, if you don't like misrepresentations, you must despise Microsoft.
It was reading the 1998 Findings of Facts court document (all 150 pages of it, and yes, it was upheld in appeal even if the punishment phase was cut down) that made me realize I no longer wanted to support a company as dirty and crooked as Microsoft. They have not changed in any serious sense, as current European court cases demonstrate. For that reason, and because I also hate it when companies act this way, I cut Microsoft out of my life so that I would no longer support such behavior with my money.
Why haven't you?
Maybe you should site some of these recent tactics since "things havent changed".
Seriously? You haven't been reading the news about that in recent years? Well, this is something Google can cure. Took me less than two seconds.
I dont really know what youre talking about. Apple and Google have seemed worse in tactics than Microsoft recently.