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I have a MacBook Air, iPad Pro and Surface Pro 4.

It is true that the MacBook Air is still a gorgeous machine, just a perfect design for a laptop. OSX is still an elegant OS to use, but it is becoming fragmented and bugs and slowdowns are becoming more frequent with each release. It has also failed to progress in the last few years. Where the Air continues to score is its portability, connectivity and incredible battery life. But as a package, it is beginning to feel dated.
And we have a successor to the MBA in all but name, the 13" MBP with two TB3/USB-C ports. It is as gorgeous as the MBA (unless you really liked the taper), scores as well in portability (weighs only 20 g more, is actually 2 mm thinner than the MBA at its thickest point), has the same Intel processor class and even a slightly larger battery (it is rated at only 10 h vs 12 h for the MBA, maybe that retina screen requires more power but then it is probably slightly underrated compared to the 13" MBP with four TB3 ports that has a smaller battery, a higher consuming CPU and the TouchBar and is also rated at 10 h).
 
Apple should reintroduce the 17" model for Pro users with more ports and more power. I still use my 6+ year-old 17-incher (after swapping out my hard drive for an SSD & maxing out the Ram.)

They keep pushing for portability and being razor thin when I want a powerful desktop replacement. Battery life doesn't really matter to me since I almost always plug in where I'm at.
 
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How sad and disappointing - even more so when you consider truly how basic and reasonable the wish lists are for Apple products.

It's all about counting beans anymore.. never mind the user experience or value.

That's the issue. The wishlist is nothing but reasonable or basic. Especially on this forum.

Too many dreamers want a machine perfect for their exact desires, and anything less than that causes them to spout hate. This is an amazing laptop, with a few glitches and errors, but it isn't what some people want. It's what the majority want. Even if you don't believe that, and in your life don't see that, it's true. Your life and interactions account for less than 1% of all apple users, even less than .01%, so to make assumptions of if a laptop is great and if the wishlist of features is "basic and reasonable" is quite silly...
 
There's nothing substantive in this report. You can't tout an increase in product sales over the competition without including comparative market analysis/details.
Neither M$ nor Apple releases any solid figures. All they say is stuff like "product X sales exceeded expectations", or "sold better than ever", so we never have any way to really know.
 
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tim:

give us a MacBook air that lives up to its legacy: make it an A11 app based system. keep it keyboard input.
no need to support this on iPad (yet).
if you REALLY believe that having a combined graphical / keyboard system is not feasible, then at least make a notebook that uses apps, making the OS transition through this machine, getting ready for eventually realizing that you have made a mistake and eventually making the iPad a combined graphical and keyboard interface, with trackpad.
do it soon.
please?
 
The killer for Apple is that once I switch to a Windows machine, I no longer have a great reason to stay with iPhone, either. Hell, that Pixel looks mighty nice and there's no big difference beyond waterproofing between that and iPhone 7 once the ecosystem is no longer a selling point. I might be ditching Apple for Microsoft, which would then be quickly followed by Google's Pixel. The Google services (photos, music, etc) are 10-times better than Apple's offering, but staying in a single ecosystem has prevented me from switching. Looks like that won't be true much longer.

Couple of years back it was time for me to upgrade from my Mac Pro and the Macbook... Since I'm not made out of money I just couldn't justify buying old tech at a ridiculous price. After many days of anxiety and profound sweating I made the jump and bought Asus stuff. Now I'm all Windows and Android and so is the rest of the family. I love Android and wouldn't go back to iOs. I do miss Core Audio and just getting that back makes me consider going back whenever Apple gets the lineup in order, but every year I'm away makes the move back slightly less likely. I don't see myself ever buying another iPhone though... I don't think I'm alone in this situation.
 
The good news is... this should be the last port-transition for a while ... you will still have to use a USB-C to VGA adapter to plug into projectors or whatever... but it should be the last adapter you have to buy for a while.

Wait until Apple changes direction and reintroduces MagSafe 3 :)
 
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Was looking forward to the MBP from my MBA but its eh and way too expensive, not justifiable for the working I'm doing. Id actually be happier with a more powerful MBA and better screen resolution and bigger screen but unfortunately they won't give that to us...
 
Couple of years back it was time for me to upgrade from my Mac Pro and the Macbook... Since I'm not made out of money I just couldn't justify buying old tech at a ridiculous price. After many days of anxiety and profound sweating I made the jump and bought Asus stuff. Now I'm all Windows and Android and so is the rest of the family. I love Android and wouldn't go back to iOs. I do miss Core Audio and just getting that back makes me consider going back whenever Apple gets the lineup in order, but every year I'm away makes the move back slightly less likely. I don't see myself ever buying another iPhone though... I don't think I'm alone in this situation.
Yeah you love Googles Android, and Google loves your data.
Just married...

I would never put my pants down, just to save a few bucks.
And also never use facebook nor whats app, instagram, snapchat & Co.

If someday Apple become like google, I will go fully Linux and ditch mobile devices altogether.
There is no alternative.
 
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Neo-switchers deserve what they get. Anyone who thinks MS offers long-term solutions for productivity-minded creatives is deluding themselves. Windows is still ... Windows.

This. I tried a SP4 and it was a fantastic piece of hardware. I can't do what I need to do in Windows though, and it was riddled with annoying software issues.

I'm not a huge fan of the new MBP, but I basically require OSX for work (or I get stuck in using VMs all day on Windows) so I don't really have a choice. I'll be holding onto my 2013 13" MBP for a while longer I guess.
 
You might want to reread the posts you put up. Your comment was about Windows 10 as was mine.
And I really don't care about what Techrepublic had to say about the control panel versus settings. I can find my way about both just fine.
I will give you one thing, Vista was awful. But since our discussion isn't about Vista....................

You stated the last 6 years you had not seen any of the issues I listed... Yes YOU can.. you are clearly technical. This is the point. Windows is awful for non tech people. I am OK but my parents had a terrible time with it. And On Mac they are great - The son Helpdesk has almost closed!

The very fact you don't see a problem with Windows shocking Setup / preferences just go to show that the whole OS is arse and elbow. Teams of people working on various projects and sections and no one is keeping their eye on the ball. This has been the same for 20 years mostly. I use it because I have to ( 3d studio Max - PC only and a whole Clusterfk of obsolete DLLs and UI mess )

I am a very intensive User. Lot so graphics / music / 3d apps open at one time. I have a lot of PCs ( and Macs) - Some home built some High end workstations - Dell / HP / Boxx + others and at one time or another they ALL fall over - the macs almost never and if they do it's just an app shut down not a system freeze etc. The Core oS on Mac is just way more stable ( linux based core I expect ) but yes it is being let down by the lack of high end hardware.
 
If for no other reason than software the Surface is useless, and while I have criticized the new MBP multiple times -- mainly for the lack of ports -- I have used it and I don't mind the new keyboard or the large touch pad. The touch bar is gimmicky but not useless and the new aesthetics (color, look etc.) are really nice. I am still quite glad I grabbed a 2015 15" AMD while I did but in an update or two I could see the new MBP being a great machine...that is, if Apple gets with the program and adds an SD slot and HDMI port back...which probably isn't going to happen, I know.
 
Fair enough. My thinking was, how do I lump the Surface, Surface Pro, and Surface Book into one category? They are essentially a tablet/convertible and a laptop. "Product" came to mind. I guess I should have said "mobile computer" instead.

In any case, the point still stands. To everyone whining about there being no option for 32GB or 64GB in the new MBPs, there is no Surface mobile computer with that much RAM either.

There are not too many options today if one wants that much RAM in a laptop. There are some very thick and heavy gaming laptops with poor battery life, or some "business" laptops of questionable quality.

I gotcha... it becomes hard when the nomenclature does not do a good job of differentiating on its own. Understandable.

To that end, I think more than just the RAM aspect, people are just generally disappointed with the latest MBP. I think the removal of "legacy" ports on a professional-level machine is a poor decision. I think they did sacrifice some function for form and that shouldn't need to happen.

I'm of the mindset that Apple should use the "Pro" designation to deviate from the ever-cutting-edge of design. Come out and say "Yeah, we have a new macbook, it's razor thin and will do 100% of what 90% of you need". Oh, and we also have this "Pro" series that we had to make a little thicker and bigger to retain some of the necessary ports and battery life that people use in their professional lives"
 
Good marketing on MS part. Nothing lasts forever in tech- Apple not going to be on top forever. Despite the crazy claims I suspect the new MacBook Pro is actually awesome. Sure, a minority have issues - always happens. But it just took SOOOO long for so little. Apple getting a little lazy sitting on all that money. Need to get hungry or people are going to take their lunch.
 
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