Windows 10 works wonderful on one hand, while beats has always sucked, and are only getting worse under Apple.Bashing Win 10 is like bashing Beats headphones-old and tired.
Windows 10 works wonderful on one hand, while beats has always sucked, and are only getting worse under Apple.Bashing Win 10 is like bashing Beats headphones-old and tired.
My ThinkPad BSODs without any corporate garbage on it at all, or even with no UAC running. I'm hardly the first person to notice that Windows boxes fill up with garbage files and start to slow down. You gonna tell me this is the first time you've heard of that? It's been a design flaw of the whole OS since the beginning, not a byproduct of control software that someone put on the machine.
Little competition? Everybody is running circles around Apple these days... And what’s Cook & Co doing? Nothing! Just counting their profits and pleasing investors instead of giving their customers something to be proud of again.Now if Apple would innovate and have courage to build a better MBP (32-64GB RAM, 4-8TB SSD, 11,13,15,17" retina+, better battery, better GPU) perhaps it can be thicker with all the necessary features!
A little competition wouldn't hurt Apple one bit.
The corporate windows machine I use to have used 20% of it's cpu on anti virus, corporate key stroke recording and other completely uses activity.Responsible for millions upon millions in maintenance costs paid to Microsoft, that's for sure.
Looks like the keyboard isn't 'optional' anymore?
15” and quad core. Nice additions. Now if it only ran macOS I would buy it. Not interested in touch on a desktop OS but I need the pen/pencil input in a performance machine for work.
Not sure if it’s the same class cpu as 15” MBP though. And I would ideally want the RAM at 32 GB.
I think two years and Cook will resign, leaving a company who’s lost it shine after years of working very hard to become a recognizable brand. Cook & Co managed in less than five years to turn a vibrant, nimble company into an overpriced elderly home.
Hmm.. well it does have better specs and components... it also comes with a full touch screen and detachable screen. Better battery life and support for a pen with 4096 levels of pressure. So to answer your question, I'd say "no".Looks to me like the same price as their MBP counterparts. Does that mean we can stop bitching about Apple's prices being too high?
Looks to me like the same price as their MBP counterparts. Does that mean we can stop bitching about Apple's prices being too high?
How freaking hot does it get?
It could be ten times as 'powerful', whatever that means when comparing two completely different OSes--I still have no desire to use Windows.
I like how everyone defending Windows here completely ignores crap like this:
BSOD (every 1-2 weeks)
DLLs and the ridiculous way that every app barfs files all over the Windows directory
Registry (see DLLs)
Fingerprint sensing is a joke compared to TouchID
Power management...doesn't seem to matter what I set it to, it switches things around on a whim
Ads/spyware
Backup options are ridiculous compared to Time Machine
Lack of continuity features with phones, messages, etc.
"Windows rot" that slows everything down over time
Antivirus...'nuff said
Deceptive update process
Edge
I use Windows on a loaded ThinkPad every day and find it to be exactly as bad as it's always been. It reminds me of Android OS--it feels like you could use it to launch the space shuttle, but it's completely unfulfilling and complicated to use in virtually every way. It's bloated, it's inconsistent, and I take no pleasure in using it.
Windows vs macOS is like somebody offering me a new Buick to replace my BMW. If I had never tried anything else, I'm sure I'd think it was great, but...I have, and it's not.
Only when you can detach the screen from a MBP and use it like a tablet![]()
I'd still pick the macbook. The whole 2 in 1 thing is overrated. If I want a tablet i'll use my ipad, if I want a laptop i'll use my laptop, etc.
The corporate windows machine I use to have used 20% of it's cpu on anti virus, corporate key stroke recording and other completely uses activity.
Windows has now reached the point where leaving it for MacOS and the crappy butterfly keyboard doesn't make sense, at least not as much as it did a few years ago. If you feel married to MacOS and the ecosystem, that's one thing, but if you were never part of it in the first place...you probably would be better served to stick with Windows for now and wait for Apple's next big innovation on the Mac front, if one ever comes under Tim Cook. At the very least wait for some resolution on the butterfly keyboard thing.Sounds awesome. But it runs Windows...
[Actually, Windows isn't half too bad these days]
People in this thread are saying windows has gotten better... guys, windows is so, so much worse than it used to be. There are literal ads in the start menu. Windows randomly installs crap applications without your permission, and computers come loaded with so much third party bloatware its not even funny. And Windows is basically spyware now - tracking everything you do and sending to Microsoft. Don't like internet explorer? Oh look, it got renamed and Microsoft helpfully pinned it to your desktop without your permission.
It's not that Windows is a POS, it's the fact that those millions of employees never had the choice and when they do, many choose MacOS even if it requires a small learning curve to perform similar tasks. PCs are made for businesses (not end users) but Macs are made for consumers (end users).I find it amusing how someone could treat Windows as such as POS OS, when it's powering so many businesses (particularly financial services) responsible for trillions upon trillions.
The OS isn't that complicated, or rubbish - and let's not pretend macOS is some kind of perfect OS either.
Wow RIP macbook pro.....this is how you innovate and make a amazing looking device. The 15 inch use to be a dream and now it's here.............
but I need the pen/pencil input in a performance machine for work
But if you can't get this in a mac, what do you do all day?
It could be ten times as 'powerful', whatever that means when comparing two completely different OSes--I still have no desire to use Windows.
I like how everyone defending Windows here completely ignores crap like this:
BSOD (every 1-2 weeks)
DLLs and the ridiculous way that every app barfs files all over the Windows directory
Registry (see DLLs)
Fingerprint sensing is a joke compared to TouchID
Power management...doesn't seem to matter what I set it to, it switches things around on a whim
Ads/spyware
Backup options are ridiculous compared to Time Machine
Lack of continuity features with phones, messages, etc.
"Windows rot" that slows everything down over time
Antivirus...'nuff said
Deceptive update process
Edge
I use Windows on a loaded ThinkPad every day and find it to be exactly as bad as it's always been. It reminds me of Android OS--it feels like you could use it to launch the space shuttle, but it's completely unfulfilling and complicated to use in virtually every way. It's bloated, it's inconsistent, and I take no pleasure in using it.
Windows vs macOS is like somebody offering me a new Buick to replace my BMW. If I had never tried anything else, I'm sure I'd think it was great, but...I have, and it's not.
People in this thread are saying windows has gotten better... guys, windows is so, so much worse than it used to be. There are literal ads in the start menu. Windows randomly installs crap applications without your permission, and computers come loaded with so much third party bloatware its not even funny. And Windows is basically spyware now - tracking everything you do and sending to Microsoft. Don't like internet explorer? Oh look, it got renamed and Microsoft helpfully pinned it to your desktop without your permission.
macOS and Windows are both very stale in my eyes
I've had my HP Spectre x360 15" for 7 months now running Windows 10 with no BSOD or any other major crash. No viruses or malware detected in that period of time. I use Chrome or Firefox most of the time.Yet I've been running windows 10 since day one and have yet to experience a a BSOD.
-no BSOD
- No issues with DLLs
- no experience with fingerprint scanner on win10
- No issues with power management
- Ads/Spyware...guess what they exist on macs now too...just reformatted and installed high sierra on a neighbors macbook pro
- plenty of backup options, windows backup is fine
-continuity with phones...you got me there
-no issues with anti virus
- mac update process isn't any better or worse
- Edge sucks....we all know this.
You must be doing something wrong to experience all those issues.
this is why we dropped all surface laptop/books. it was an overpriced windows machine. we went back to lenovo/dell.