I don't care how popular Windows is, what I want is a Unix-based OS (powering a Unix-based workstation), which macOS is and Windows is not.
McDonalds is all over the world, by your logic, McDonalds has great food.
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Microsoft Says Its New Surface Book 2 is Twice as Powerful as Latest MacBook Pro
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McDonalds is all over the world, by your logic, McDonalds has great food.
Sounds awesome. But it runs Windows...
[Actually, Windows isn't half too bad these days]
I know what you mean but the core of Windows, and thus why it isn’t good in my opinion remains. I mean the registry, privileges, app install, and other fundamentals. And now they have two ways to do things (access settings or even programs), the Metro way and the legacy way.
They’ve tacked on some improvements but they are just that, tacked on. It does look decent overall and is more useable.
I do find this very interesting, having worked in a couple of companies/studios where there was work being done in 3D, pre-viz, plus coding, in/on/around those design assets - there were plenty of high powered rigs, but nothing that would allow for everything to be done on a single machine, that's also [very] portable. It's a touch underpowered in the GPU department for the AR work we were doing, but it wouldn't be for final product anyway.
Blasphemy!
I'd agree. I only have a marginal preference for macOS. At this point I could care less. Most everything I do is online and I use Google for most of my syncing needs. I just jump from one to the other.
On that note. At over $2K. I'd spend the money on a Macbook Pro over Surface. Having a Mac provides a greater degree of compatibility when doing on site IT work.
Apple just need to update up their game with almost everything. Latest MBP was a disappointment for many..
I largely agree, I’m pretty OS agnostic and just as happy working in Windows as MacOS, both work just fine for my use and I can’t honestly say I prefer one over the other. On the hardware/ cost side, I think the surface products feel like you’re getting more for your money though, they’re straight out the gate with 8th gen chips, touchscreen, detachable with stylus input, looks like better battery life than the equivalent MacBook pros (remains to be seen, but even if they only achieve ~12 hours they’re doing better than the MacBooks) comfortable keyboard that probably won’t develop issues with stuck keys, double presses or annoying high pitched clicking sounds, a mix of useful ports including USB A, C, and SD. I know there’s apple’s great walk in support factored into the price, but you have to admit, these surfaces on paper are just the more impressive machines...
It's easily 5 times more powerful the new 8th gen processors are a nice upgrade but the real story is the GPU the GTX 1060 6gb, its a full desktop card the GPU in the most powerful MacBook pro is a AMD pro 560 which is the equivalent to a GTX 965m...... Which is garbage ....... It's not even close..OH and the MacBook pro uses 16gb of ddr3 which everyone overlooks, the surface book is using 8-16gb of DDR4 ALSO the detachable TOUCH screen is a higher resolution Than the MacBook . It's very easy to see why it's more expensive and significantly more powerful
If this is not enough to open the eyes of The Brothel of Tim Supporters, there is no hope. Apple needs a new CEO, and it needs it yesterday. Microsoft and Apple are switching roles for God’s sake. I want a class leading Mac, not a dam Hollywood Production Company !!
It's not just CPU but also GPU performance which is now commonly used for compute processing, machine learning, password strength testing, etc. So, the 2x performance is correct considering the GTX 1060 is faster than Radeon Pro 570 and the Radeon 560 is about half the performance of the 570. Doesn't matter anyway since there's hardly any software on MacOS to utilize the GPU.
Radeon Pro 570 > 560
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I'm running a Phenom II 1055 still
Sandy bridge 2600k here. You've got me beat by over a year and mine's showing its age.
You get a good dGPU, a pen, and a detachable tablet PC for it. Not bad.
The fact is that facts don't matter because apple is apple. They release dog **** year after year and it sells ... Sheep follow apple and they will never innovate because consumers allow them to stay stuck in the past as long as it sells.....nothing you can say will help the isheep understand.
After reading more of the comments in here and sifting through the moronic "Windows sucks" comment every 4th post, I'm really wondering why this is even a comparison. You'd need to buy an iPad Pro and a Macbook Pro to have comparable capaiblity. So cost and weight would be much higher, and convenience would be much lower. Anyone looking to buy a detachable screen laptop is not going to be satisfied with a Macbook Pro, or with hauling around two devices.
I'm running 10 and zero issues. Although, I think my CMOS battery is dead as it won't hold time
Yeah, the 3D pre-viz or game dev area also has many levels or requirements. Microsoft Surface won’t master it all, but it’s becoming a real game changer. The possibility to be able to integrate a powerful mobile touch device with pretty decent gpu into a real production pipeline is just wow.
I always thought it telling that the Windows world trumpets their tech specs while in the Apple world they're an afterthought. Windows users buy based on numbers, Apple users buy based on experiences. If Windows was a president he'd be Donald Trump, endlessly boasting about how rich and smart he is -- while accomplishing very little else. Apple on the other hand would be Barack Obama, quietly but diligently working to get sh*t done.
The point is that the hardware may or may not be nice but the software running on it instantly disqualifies it from consideration. Not many people require a detachable screen laptop. If you do, then you'll probably be forced to use Windows, whether you like it or not.
yes I totally agree their product lineup is very confused now. I certainly think the MacBook Air and MacBook is a mess. Apple needs to rebrand the current MacBook to be the 'new' MacBook Air and then come out with a cheaper £800-£1000 machine under the MacBook name.
Yep. Comparing laptops to American presidents. That really makes sense. What's next: comparing iPads to the situation in the Middle east?
Bulls***..... VMware Workstation 14 pro starts with my win10 desktop, it loads a 2 debian VMs, a windows 2016 vm, and a windows 10 vm. I also have plex media server and universal media server running at startup as well. I can game, have multiple tabs open in chrome, convert a video and/or transcode on the fly all at once without issue....you were saying?
Microsoft today introduced the Surface Book 2, the second generation of its high-end notebook and tablet hybrid.
The new Surface Book 2 is equipped with Intel's latest eighth-generation Core processors, up to NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 graphics, up to 16GB of RAM, and up to 17 hours of battery life based on video playback.
Microsoft says those tech specs make the Surface Book 2 up to five times more powerful than the original Surface Book, and twice as powerful as the latest MacBook Pro, but it didn't specify which configurations.
Microsoft's comparisons to its primary competitor didn't end there. On its website, it said the Surface Book 2 has 70 percent more battery life than the latest MacBook Pro, which lasts up to 10 hours on a single charge.
The new Surface Book 2 is available with a 13.5-inch or 15-inch display that can be detached from the keyboard and used as a tablet. The display can also be folded or reattached in Studio Mode or View Mode.
Microsoft added that the Surface Book 2 has 45 percent more pixels than the latest MacBook Pro. The 15-inch model has a resolution of 3240x2160 pixels, good for 267 PPI, while the 15-inch MacBook Pro is 2880x1800 and 220 PPI.
The notebook is equipped with two USB 3.1 ports, one USB-C port, a full-size SD card slot, and a 3.5mm headphone jack. It also has a proprietary SurfaceConnect port that allows a Surface Dock to be connected.
Surface Dock, available separately for $199, has two Mini DisplayPorts, one Gigabit Ethernet port, four USB 3.0 ports, and one audio out port.
As a Windows PC, the Surface Book 2 will be compatible with the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update released today.
Surface Book 2 starts at $1,499 for the 13.5-inch model with a Core i5 processor, Intel HD Graphics 620, 8GB of RAM, and 256GB of SSD storage. More powerful 13.5-inch configurations are available for up to $2,999.
The 15-inch model starts at $2,499 with a Core i7 processor, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 graphics, 8GB of RAM, and 256GB of SSD storage. More powerful 15-inch configurations are available for up to $3,299.
Surface Book 2 pre-orders begin November 9 on Microsoft's website and at its retail stores in the United States and select other countries. Deliveries will begin when the device launches November 16.
Article Link: Microsoft Says Its New Surface Book 2 is Twice as Powerful as Latest MacBook Pro
Meanwhile at apple headquarters they are sitting at the table thinking "****, now Microsoft is releasing better products too. What feature can we remove from the Mac line to make it look innovative again."
Despite this being a very "sorry" senseless but funny statement
Without Windows Apple devices wouldn’t even exist.The Milling Machines producing all these shiny Apple Devices runs mainly Windows with few Linux exceptions.