Sorry you misunderstood, the requirement was “be able to run both Windows and MacOS.” Not across the entire enterprise, but on a single computer.
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Microsoft Says Its New Surface Book 2 is Twice as Powerful as Latest MacBook Pro
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Let me just say. The first Surface Book was a Hot Turd. I received one for work, brand new and it was plagued with the black screen of death. Functionality of the tablet was awful, assuming Windows would let you detach. It would hold it captive when pressing the detach button with back end system apps or programs like calculator which it claimed were running even though it was not. And the pen pails in comparison to the Apple Pencil. In my opinion, not useful for writing or drawing only highlighting and circling. I returned it to our IT department after a 6 month evaluation. Grateful that it was not my money that purchased it, which is why I make this post. Buyer beware!!! Microsoft did not implement meaningful fixes for the Surface Book so don't expect any different for v2.0.
Real world usage between a MBP and a Surface 2 would also be similar. Just like my Win 10 laptop is just as fast as my full-blown Win 10 gaming rig, in day-to-day use.
Which iPhone 8 vs Note 8 videos show them performing similarly? The opening Apps in order ones? Or the ones showing people actually doing some real work?
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all respectable enterprise software vendors charge corporate clients for support. Oracle racks billions of dollars in software support costs. So does sales force, SAP, IBM, etc. so why shouldn't Microsoft charge?
If Apple was doing that to would be applauding the genius innovation of charging for support and maintenance. Magic!
I have worked in heavy engineering for many years on some of the worlds largest structures and other than a few execs playing emails on a IPad Apple simply do not exist as a useful tool in my work world
I think you have an exceptional case or doing something wrong as simply millions of engineers and designers are not getting blue screens on models that have taken 2 or more years and millions of manhours to construct
There are some good reasons why Windows is most prevalent OS and by Apple own metrics only 15% of it's users are professional that makes MBP 85% usage typically nothing more than surf the net, chat with a buddy but they can't play AAA games
Use MacOs because you enjoy it not based on some silly rhetoric of stability or productivity that is not applicable for the vast majority
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Microsoft. See https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book-2/overview , so I'm sticking by my first post about.
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iMessage is about the only thing keeping me on MacBooks these days.
hmm.. yeah, that's weak.
especially with the comparisons they use in reference to the 'latest MBP'.
seems like this picture is being used to showcase how thin their design is compared to MBP.. they go with the more flattering angle on the Surface then contrast it with a more frontal shot of the MBP.. and further, use a thicker model of MBP to create this illusion.
idk, i'm not backing that..
but whatever.. i don't really care anyway
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I wish I could love this post instead of just like it. There are so many wannabe "elitists" in this thread that keep spewing utter bull-crap about windows, when the statistics speak for themselves. One of the biggest drawbacks for me was the inability to play AAA games, but not being able to play any games really. Only a select few titles are even available on mac, and even then, their GPU selections are extremely lackluster compared to windows. Can you imagine having to shell out so much extra money to get an external GPU enclosure (laughable idea), only to have reduced bandwidth, as well as have only like 5 games to choose from?I have worked in heavy engineering for many years on some of the worlds largest structures and other than a few execs playing emails on a IPad Apple simply do not exist as a useful tool in my work world
I think you have an exceptional case or doing something wrong as simply millions of engineers and designers are not getting blue screens on models that have taken 2 or more years to and millions of manhours to construct
There are some good reasons why Windows is most prevalent OS and by Apple own metrics only 15% of it's users are professional that makes MBP 85% usage typically nothing more than surf the net, chat with a buddy but they can't play AAA games
Use MacOs because you enjoy it not based on some silly rhetoric of stability or productivity that is not applicable for the vast majority
Er, no it hasn't. It's horrible, same as it has always been. Unintuitive, irritating, maddening, crippled on purpose and ugly.
Of course, it'll have longer battery life, the display alone is as thick as the MBP hence all the components will likely be in it and the keyboard part can be filled up with battery.
On the other hand, it having GTX1060 is really sweet, pity that Apple doesn't seem to care for power users much.
On the other hand, it having GTX1060 is really sweet, pity that Apple doesn't seem to care for power users much.
While they’re both expensive, you can’t compare hardware wise. If Apple would come out with the same specifications in 2019 you can ad at least $ 1000. And that’s a conservative guess
While they’re both expensive, you can’t compare hardware wise. If Apple would come out with the same specifications in 2019 you can ad at least $ 1000. And that’s a conservative guess
Huh? You can make this comparison right now, and the 15-inch Surface Book is roughly the same price as a 15-inch tbMBP. The Surface has a better GPU, and the Mac a better CPU.
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The Surface Book is on its third revision since 2015. The MacBook Pro is on its third revision since 2015.
I suppose you can argue that Microsoft is more predictable, apparently always revising it in October.
That's what's losing me, too. As a long-time formerly evangelistic user, developer, and shareholder, the Jony Ive/Tim Cook era has been enragingly disappointing. On the other hand, Windows shipped an OS of amazing power and technical excellence once (NT 3.51, 1995), thereby proving that it's at least possible for it to do so again. Apple, on the other hand…has left us in a situation where we're still an all-El Capitan shop because so much of the software we depend on for our workflows has Issues with Sierra, and the howls of pain from High Sierra guinea pigs have yet to slow their upward trend. I love the new and shiny; always have…but I've lately learnt to be a cautious curmudgeon just to reliably keep getting stuff done. Apple, that's on you.
So, the windows rig is your own or company ? I have no idea what you are doing wrong, I got a 2012 x79 platform....overclocked and throw everything at it, takes a little bit more effort to setup a windows rig. It's been used for transcoding, media production, music, and heck, played all the latest Game titles in the last 5 years.
Come on BSOD? On a home PC..... reading this thread it's like people have not used a modern windows os.... and actually believe BSOD is a thing now, along with the idea that windows users constantly run virus software and slows their machines down.... windows defender.....move on...
More interesting is how many complain about windows machines based on thier work machines, my work MacBook Pro struggles to surf the net , run office and do basic tasks....I'm not going to blame a fine os and hardware on the poor setup, nor will I tell people that Macs beachball constantly.
Setup your machine correctly and it will work. Irrespective of os
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And "thinner, lighter, blingier, less repairable" does not count as improvement.
Nah....apple has no idea how to put a GPU into a computer.....
It is making me think about jumping ship still.
This combining with a new surface studio with similar specs [decent CPU + GPU + SSD] I may well be gone. Not that I don't love MacOS and Apple, but for my professional work Windows is a better option.
You're talking to one. ;-) I actively use the iPad Pro, intuos line, and surface book. Haven't bothered to buy a cintiq, my sis illustrates on one full time and uses mac (as do most studios she worked for)
I like the surface but have noticed tiny little issues when drawing on our surface books. I'm eager to try the next genration. Ms hyped that in their video.
The software and smoothness on iOS is just so darn responsive. For drawing I'm iOS or nothing. And the hardware is so thin, and runs so cool. For texture painting I lean more towards windows.
IMO one cannot beat running quixel suite, zbrush or substance painter on a surface device. There is simply no competition on the mac side until you go with the cintiq, and that gets expensive and clunky.