Unforynatly for me and likes of me wet is a problem all the time.
I have the misforune of having sweaty hands... and more often than not the present tecnology of touch id does not work for me.
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Ming-Chi Kuo Predicts iPhone 8 Will Omit Touch ID Entirely, Come in Limited Color Options
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I have the misforune of having sweaty hands... and more often than not the present tecnology of touch id does not work for me.
Actually he did say it would not be on the back, or lock button, in addition to not being under the screen. It will be replaced with the bio-metric scanner from camera.
Lies no one is leaving, it's all talk #fakepost I hear people going to leave after every iPhone and they are still here
I don't see anything I said that is the least bit insulting. All I said is I found the article odd and inaccurate. I said nothing at all about the author insulting or otherwise.
A bit moot since Bloomberg is now reporting similar, but...
It was clear to us that he meant entirely, not just under the display. We've also now seen Kuo's full report that leaves no doubt about what he meant...we'll be sharing the relevant detail shortly.
No worries, I guarantee you I won't be buying an iPhone without Touch ID. I also have my doubts about an iPhone without a home button as well. I've only had a home button on every one of my phones since I bought the iPhone 3G.
Eeek! No TouchID would be a pretty big back peddle. Especially since they took the effort to expand it to the MacBookPro. No Touch ID might be a deal breaker to upgrading.
honestly I think we would more likely see it moved to the back than a total dismissal if they can't get it to work on the front with the new design.
honestly I think we would more likely see it moved to the back than a total dismissal if they can't get it to work on the front with the new design.
OLED has been around for a long time. Touch ID had been around for some time. I honestly cannot see Apple abandoning the touchID for something else entirely. It would be a huge hit in revenue if their top of the line product goes back a few years in tech. Also, I cannot see Apple not realizing this problem 2-4 years ago and have been working on something that works. All these articles makes it seem that Apple is just winging the tech 3 months before launch.....and that just does not seem likely with a multi billion dollar company.
If TouchID is omitted, how would Apple Pay work? (I know you can enter your passcode as an alternative, but this report seems fishy)
Pretend time.
What if Apple is evolving/transitioning from Touch ID to Retina ID and their interim solution (aka: a conscientious way to unapologetically force a new user behavior - an art at which they excel) is to require both touch and retinal scanning to unlock/access on this fall's iPhone?
That could be a way for Apple to both beta Retina ID (with an unprecedented sample size) while simultaneously satisfying Wall Street with [likely] record breaking sales: two things Apple likes to do (get paid to learn). In this beta, the user would place their thumb on the newly enlarged Power button while looking into the front-facing camera.
And while the user would never know/care which I put method unlocked the device, Apple would know how well - or not - Retina ID worked. Touch ID would be there when/if Retina ID failed.
Armed with Reina ID performance data, Apple could be poised to ditch Touch ID and roll out a Retina ID-only device in 2018.
There are holes in this theory, no doubt. Poke away.
What if Apple is evolving/transitioning from Touch ID to Retina ID and their interim solution (aka: a conscientious way to unapologetically force a new user behavior - an art at which they excel) is to require both touch and retinal scanning to unlock/access on this fall's iPhone?
That could be a way for Apple to both beta Retina ID (with an unprecedented sample size) while simultaneously satisfying Wall Street with [likely] record breaking sales: two things Apple likes to do (get paid to learn). In this beta, the user would place their thumb on the newly enlarged Power button while looking into the front-facing camera.
And while the user would never know/care which I put method unlocked the device, Apple would know how well - or not - Retina ID worked. Touch ID would be there when/if Retina ID failed.
Armed with Reina ID performance data, Apple could be poised to ditch Touch ID and roll out a Retina ID-only device in 2018.
There are holes in this theory, no doubt. Poke away.
No way does Apple get rid of Touch ID considering it is the essential piece for Apple Pay; but the guy did state it would not be embedded so I'm thinking he meant it would still be a regular home button.
If they get rid of TouchID it's the final nail in the coffin for Post-Jobs Apple. That is NOT something Steve Jobs would do. Jobs ran Apple under the notion of "We may not be first, but we don't do things until we get it absolutely right." Well in this case they would neither the first, nor would they be getting it right.
They'll spin facial recognition as being better/more accurate than fingerprint scanners (which it isn't) and pull some "Courage" cop-out like they did with removing the headphone jack. Now, that wasn't a Steve Jobs move either, but it's something I could live with. Getting rid of TouchID though, that's ludicrous (and when I say getting rid of TouchID, I mean getting rid of the fingerprint scanner). It's literally embedded into everything, even their MacBooks now. They used to have uniformity among all their products and their slowly drifting away from that. They made the case that the headphone jack was fully matured and past it's time, and a case can be made that it was. But TouchID hasn't even been fully perfected yet, and to get rid of it makes no sense. There's room for improvement, it's obviously useful, and it's not a failing feature.
Also, I may be looking too far into this, but how the hell is facial recognition supposed to work in extreme low light situations like, I don't know, using it at night????
They'll spin facial recognition as being better/more accurate than fingerprint scanners (which it isn't) and pull some "Courage" cop-out like they did with removing the headphone jack. Now, that wasn't a Steve Jobs move either, but it's something I could live with. Getting rid of TouchID though, that's ludicrous (and when I say getting rid of TouchID, I mean getting rid of the fingerprint scanner). It's literally embedded into everything, even their MacBooks now. They used to have uniformity among all their products and their slowly drifting away from that. They made the case that the headphone jack was fully matured and past it's time, and a case can be made that it was. But TouchID hasn't even been fully perfected yet, and to get rid of it makes no sense. There's room for improvement, it's obviously useful, and it's not a failing feature.
Also, I may be looking too far into this, but how the hell is facial recognition supposed to work in extreme low light situations like, I don't know, using it at night????
Agree with everything you said.
To answer your question, infrared is how it would work. Just like how security cameras provide "night vision"
If there is a remaining issue with retinal identification, it would be the awkwardness of lining it up with your face every time. I would no doubt go back to no password on my phone, if they ditch touch ID. Although I was perfectly fine not requiring one pre-touch ID, so this decision doesn't affect me much.
So basically in simple terms if Apple can't do it then ditch it completely? LOL. Gotta love Apple's logic if this pans out to be true. We couldn't figure out a way to implement it under the glass so we thought it would be a lot more high-tech and advanced to ditch it completely and go with some totally advanced facial recognition security system altogether.
Personally I think the Note 8 release will have the new iphone cornered before its released as its only gonna be even better than the Galaxy s8 so I think the new iphone 8 is already DOA. Just my opinion.
Personally I think the Note 8 release will have the new iphone cornered before its released as its only gonna be even better than the Galaxy s8 so I think the new iphone 8 is already DOA. Just my opinion.
Because according to the article Apple claims that they revolutionized a more secure face detection. Therefore according to this article that TouchID is an obsolete and weak protection. This must be a bright future for Apple. I'm excited!
Well every case design we've seen so far, including multiple preproduction and manufacturing molds, has not show a place for a Touch ID sensor on the back of the phone, or on the sides, so I don't know where else it would go if not under the screen. Could all of those be wrong? Sure, it's possible. But I don't think likely, those cases have generally been fairly accurate in recent years.
One possibility is that there's a large sensor area under the back of the phone that reads through the case, therefore not requiring a cutout and not requiring you to place your finger in an exact spot...basically just touch the back of the phone somewhere. But of course, that's a major problem for cases.
Anyway, I am not happy about the possible loss of Touch ID, or replacing it with facial recognition. Hopefully the in-screen detector is still a thing and the analysts don't know it yet.
I'd like to think Apple wouldn't regress to some inferior system from one that already works beautifully (Touch ID), but then I remember one of Apple's greatest features that is almost universally loved, MagSafe, did get axed.
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I think I'd enable a pin code before travelling if this were the case.
Just in case I was a victim of a misunderstanding / misidentification.
