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Hey! I'm not the one who said it took "courage" to remove the headphone jack. Apple said that!

The "courage" thing, while sort of correct, was a silly thing to say. Since getting my AirPods I haven't used my headphone jack more than a few times (iPhone 6s), so maybe I'm not the type of person who really cares about the jack itself. I will happily use the adapter on future iPhones on the relatively rare times I want to listen to my studio headphones on my iPhone.
 
1. Copout. Just because OLED wasn't widely used doesn't mean that companies shouldn't invest in futuristic tech. Heck, even the PS Vita featured an OLED screen on its initial models. Samsung owns the best OLED panels now. Yes, Apple doesn't manufacture its own panels, but it is still better to offer the best products possible.

Apple is very particular about the displays it uses. We can see that with the screens used in the iPhone 7 and the excellent colour gamut.
IMHO, it is entirely possible that no one was able to make even a limited quantity (viz several million) OLED screens to Apple's spec until now? Apple is very much about getting a product that improves on the tech that is already in use but may well not have been implemented very well due to a variety of factors. So many people complain that Apple is not first to adopt a tech. As a mechanical engineer and a student of Industrial Archaeology I know of countless examples of the first adopters of a tech not being the best.
Apple will often adopt a tech when they can make it work better than anyone else. That is what we have come to expect.

Just my useless 2p worth on the subject.
 
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Because it takes 3-5 minutes to sync via cable, and sync via WIFI usually never finishes.

3-5 minutes? What, you have nothing on your phone. I had to replace my step son's iPhone 6s 64GB phone last week (broken screen, got a new one). It took 20-30 minutes to do the sync with all his apps and music. This was after hours of waiting for iTunes to update, to backup his broken phone, then to restore on new, to then update to latest OS. I tell you, the whole getting a new phone is a PITA. USB 3 speeds are needed for these phone now, not later this year. Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned that Apple switched from the "10 year old 30 pin connector" as in 10 years was a lot of years, well USB 2 speeds are over 16 years. USB 3 speed have been out since what, 2008, yet Apple seems fit to feel that USB 2 speeds are fast enough, I would agree on a 8GB phone (2 minutes to sync), but not on a 64, 128 or 256GB phone. Syncing by cable or WiFi is painfully slow on these phones with the monster amount of data they have. It could take an hour or more to back ones phone at USB2 speeds. If they had 3.0 or 3.1 speeds, then I can see your 3-5 minutes.
 
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high-speed data transmission is "still a niche application"? why do they think that? I would love to have faster transferring speeds :-/ USB2-speed is simply not good enough for my 256GB iPhone.
 
Apple is very particular about the displays it uses. We can see that with the screens used in the iPhone 7 and the excellent colour gamut.
IMHO, it is entirely possible that no one was able to make even a limited quantity (viz several million) OLED screens to Apple's spec until now? Apple is very much about getting a product that improves on the tech that is already in use but may well not have been implemented very well due to a variety of factors. So many people complain that Apple is not first to adopt a tech. As a mechanical engineer and a student of Industrial Archaeology I know of countless examples of the first adopters of a tech not being the best.
Apple will often adopt a tech when they can make it work better than anyone else. That is what we have come to expect.

Just my useless 2p worth on the subject.

Galaxy Note 7 is one for your studies. ;)
 
Lol, my iPhone gets worse with every update. My success rate with Touch ID has gone down significantly as well. Apple doesn't take their time with software like they used too.

Unfortunately, I agree with you on this. And the latest example, being with Apple Watch updates bricking new watches. It's issues like these that shouldn't happen. When Apple pulls an update from their servers, it's not a good thing.
 
Make enough guesses and a few are bound to stick.

This is going to be one amazing phone w/all these rumors.
 
It also sounds like people who have the 29W MacBook charger with a Lightning to USB-C cable who use it to charge The 12.9 inch iPad Pro twice as quickly will be able to charge the new iPhones with it much more quickly.
For faster speeds wouldn't the input in the iPhone have to be USB C? I have a USB C to lightning cable for 2016 MBP and I'm not seeing a speed increase.
 
Make enough guesses and a few are bound to stick.

This is going to be one amazing phone w/all these rumors.

It'll be like my 950 true , is amazing

OLED. wireless charge, USB-C , Removable battery , NFC for everything, Continuum , 20MP,expensive $298

Er wait...
Strike Removable battery, NFC for everything, Continuum , 20MP, expensive $298

Ok
Add OLED. wireless charge, USB-C , 14MP , expensive $1000+
 
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I can't think of any compelling technical reasons why the port on new iPhones and iPads should be Lighting instead of USB-C.

However, since Apple is trying to sell lightning-port style earphones/headphones for a large premium, I have no doubt that iOS devices will be stuck with proprietary lightning ports for some time.
 
There are a lot of Pro audio devices that require ports so going completely wireless would completely alienate those users and force them to remain on older devices or switch to android.

Not necessarily. The Apple Watch has no user accessible ports. Yet it has a way to physically charge the watch. Similarly if Apple removes all physical ports, they will likewise implement a way to connect physical devices if necessary. The most logical way to accomplish that is via a magnetic inductive connection like the Apple Watch, or more practically for data, the SmartConnector. The current 3-conductor SmartConnector could easily handle an audio connection, as well as USB 2 speeds. Or perhaps Apple will implement a specialized SmartConnector that offers faster transfer rates.

For faster speeds wouldn't the input in the iPhone have to be USB C? I have a USB C to lightning cable for 2016 MBP and I'm not seeing a speed increase.

Nope. But it does have to be a 16 pin Lightning connector like the iPad Pro has. These reports seem to suggest it will be a 16-pin connector. The USB-C to Lightning cables also have to support a 16 pin wire path.
 
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It's nice to see Apple catching up with other manufacturers: OLED, edge-to-edge display, big batteries, fast charging and wireless charging have all been available on Android phones for a few years now.
It's easy to generalize but that's not true. Some of those things have been available on some Android phones for a few years. Expecting Apple to be ahead in every single area all the time is absurd. Half of the reason why the other 20 manufacturers Apple's competing against have failed is because they stuck their necks out to try some of these wacky things. Some stick and some don't. Apple has enough business sense to resist every new trend and enough design sense to shake things up every few years. If you don't believe me look at their sales. And if you don't care about sales look at every single phone maker scrambling to copy Apple even after Apple already "copied" them.
 
Shipping a USB-C to Lightning cable with all USB-C equipped MacBooks provides a solution for all pre-existing Lighting port devices for every buyer of a USB-C Mac. Shifting to USB-C on iPhones in September 2017 wouldn't help all the people that own anything from an iPhone 5 to 7 or an iPad 4 or later.

And so what? Did they care about all the people that had accessories that took the 30-pin connector? People had things like $80 clock radios with a 30-pin charger built in the top that went into the junk heap.
 
And so what? Did they care about all the people that had accessories that took the 30-pin connector? People had things like $80 clock radios with a 30-pin charger built in the top that when in the junk heap.
I am making a suggestion how Apple could make things easier for its customers. And your argument against doing this is that it would break character for Apple? Note that they did ship the Lightning to 3.5 mm headphone jack adaptor.
 
1. Copout. Just because OLED wasn't widely used doesn't mean that companies shouldn't invest in futuristic tech. Heck, even the PS Vita featured an OLED screen on its initial models. Samsung owns the best OLED panels now. Yes, Apple doesn't manufacture its own panels, but it is still better to offer the best products possible. Many Android users would switch over if Apple offered comparable hardware without any compromises. I would trade off an A10 processor for quick charging, wireless charging, etc.

2. Curved displays are popular in the market now. HTC is rumored to get into the mix while other Chinese OEMs are exploring different devices.

3. I am not a fan of the bulky iPhone plus models compared to the S7/S7E size. Compartmentalization is key. Apple needs to put forth more effort into this. Treading cautiously is important because iPhones and Galaxy Notes exploded in 2016. There is less evidence to show that it's a design flaw with the 7/7+. It's not like the Note 7 with Samsung admitting fault.

4. Fast charging is a must have. I think Apple will need to ditch their current iPhone chargers and come out with better and more powerful ones.

5. A return to a glass body is inevitable since it is more aesthetically pleasing and popular amongst Galaxy users.

The Note 7 exploded because Samsung rushed out a product. Not QC devices will not lead to the idea that too beefy of a battery in such small area could lead to major end user issues.

1. No it's not. If Apple can't produce enough at high quality, they're not going to do it. You do realize how many more iPhones there are compared to the PSVita right?

2. Ok. I prefer flat

3. The Note 7 was recalled twice and eventually taken off the market. That didn't happen to the iPhone 7

4. Maybe for some. For most I would say it's a nice to have.

5. So you're saying Apple's decision to use all glass is because it's more aesthetically pleasing and it appeals to Galaxy users? I'm confused.
 
I trust Kuo more than anyone else but this makes me sad. We could have had a future where the only cable we need is USB-C. Instead, we will have 2 different cables. At least I hope that we will get a USB-C to Lightning so we can connect iPhones to MacBooks.

Well, the future will be *no* cables. Wireless charging. Wireless transfer. So, at least we are down to two on our way there!:D
 
I am making a suggestion how Apple could make things easier for its customers. And your argument against doing this is that it would break character for Apple? Note that they did ship the Lightning to 3.5 mm headphone jack adaptor.

And what did they give people that bought $3500 2016 MacBook Pros. Zip. Replaced all the ports with 2 or 4 USB-C ports. No adapters.

I agree they could provided adapters, but why would they? They have no way of knowing what you need. It would be another device that goes in the waste stream or the bottom of a box of adapters.
 
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It's nice to see Apple catching up with other manufacturers: OLED, edge-to-edge display, big batteries, fast charging and wireless charging have all been available on Android phones for a few years now.
How are Android manufacturers innovative, if all the stuff you mention has been available for a few years now? Use your brain for once! By definition an innovation is something new and hasn't been around, like a fireproof return box.

Samsung sending out fireproof return boxes for the Note 7
 
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How are Android manufacturers innovative, if all the stuff you mention has been available for a few years now? Use your brain for once! By definition an innovation is something new and hasn't been around, like the dual-camera system in the iPhone 7+.
Htc one M8 had two cameras several years back.
 
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For faster speeds wouldn't the input in the iPhone have to be USB C? I have a USB C to lightning cable for 2016 MBP and I'm not seeing a speed increase.
The iPad Pro 12.9" has an upgraded Lightning port capable of USB 3 speeds. Presumably that same or a similar port will go into the next iPhones.
 
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Htc one M8 had two cameras several years back.
Yep, I thought there was a few others before the 7+. But wait, we will have everyone telling you the iPhone 7+ dual camera is better than all of those. I can tell you from experience, the dual camera on the 7+ is a gimmick. It is only used when doing Portrait Mode, which really only works when you have maximum lighting.
 
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