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It is a handheld device it gets scratched up from normal use.

Not really, especially on a device designed to deliver movies and videos. A flashy metal ring is a big distraction and acts to reduce percieved contrast. Wrapping a video screen in a reflective metal trim has been known to be a no no for decades now. Just take a look at any of the quality TV sets available these days.

Obviously you don't have the maturity to look at the technical reasons for the approach taken in these renderings. Instead you see the iPhone as bling, something to flash around and make yourself feel good with.

Sorry but that is not the way most of us go about trying to feel good about ourselves. For one thing many people find it offensive and it can also be insulting. Enjoy your iPhone, just don't use it to belittle others.


If you thinkbl chrome is the only measure of quality then why don't you go out and buy a Chevy! Seriously that was a destraction that was used by Detroit to mask the poor quality of their cars. Like wise other industries have fallen into the same game of masking the lack of quality with chrome. Trying to associate chrome with quality says a lot about you alas a person, something you need to think about.


Well I'm not party to those threads but if you have expressed the same mentality there that you have expressed here I can imagine people being very displeased with your existance. Your twisted view on what constitutes quality is sad to say the very least. Very few people would be with you on the thought that chrome represents quality, it is a surface finish nothing more. In the case of a video IPhone a surface finish that detracts from a key usage pattern


Dave

Wow what is she about 19 hands?
 
Although I will probably upgrade soon after the new iPhone starts shipping, one strike against upgrading is simply that I think my first generation iPhone looks and feels better than the current one, or (based on rumors) the newest (though we'll see, obviously).

The metal backing is classic, and the idea that this interferes with reception is silly. The biggest issue with reception is AT&T, not the phone.

I'm perfectly happy with my gen one phone. Now if I could get 3G (but no added cost), a better camera (not that big a deal) and more storage (32 gigs would be nice - 2 tb would be better :p ), AND my old housing . . . that would make me very happy.
 
New iPhone Availability

If they release this phone tomorrow, when will it be available? I broke my iPhone about 3 days ago and do not want to buy the current one if this is going to be released in a few short days...
 
What a sad commentary.

If they use black anodized aluminium like on the black iPods, they may have something there.
If you knew anything about quality you would know that anodizing is not the final word in surface treatment. Further you might realize that black anodizied surfaces turn purple when exposed to heavy UV.
If not, it's just matte black paint, in which case it'll be the iPhone for goth kids.
This is the really sad part about your posts, you try to pull in a small segment of disaffected youth and smear them all as a group. Then by extension you try to associate an iPhone improvement with this group you just smeared and you wonder why everybody here rejects your posts.

If you don't understand why Apple might think this is a good improvement and can't offer a rational argument against it then shut up. Or at the very least leave a group of people out of the argument that have nothing to do with it.
Not the most lucrative target demographic, perhaps.
Snob appeal is not Apples forte.

Besides a nice non reflective bezel will have a wide ranging appeal especially for people that actually use their iPhone for something more than bling. You seem to associate the iPhone with the purchase of costume jewelery, most of us see it as a communications tool. I'm not to certain we will ever see eye to eye on this issue, yours is a position of emotion and corrupt values.


Dave
 
Standard 3G (UMTS) has video telephony ("chat" if you will) as a standard feature and all normal 3G phones has a front-facing camera to enable this. Great for hearing impaired who can now make phone calls using sign language, for example.

Having Apple implement this would be natural and even highly desirable, but would just put it on par with other mobile phone vendors.

Also delivering an inbuilt iChat client with video chat capability would be great, and integrating 3G video telephony and iChat would be innovative Apple-style in a way that even most mobile operators would be willing to accept.

Let's see what they have came up with.
 
If they release this phone tomorrow, when will it be available? I broke my iPhone about 3 days ago and do not want to buy the current one if this is going to be released in a few short days...

Announce in June, release in July. At least that's what I would think.
 
Matte back like the Palm Pre's wireless charging back. Just maybe??? you never know.
 
i used to like the idea of a black trim on the iphone, but the more pictures i see, the worse it looks.
take a look at the mockup with the leaked bezel that was posted a few days ago compared to the original photo.. its nowhere near as nice.

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I havent seen anyone discuss what that new "button" could be on the lower left side.... Maybe for the camera shutter?

The chrome does look nice in this picture compared to the black... I dont know that I really care for the black. But hey, Im not buying the new phone so I could care less..... :)
 
Improved Speaker - - -patent proof

Information week posts some patents approved in January which depicts the speaker moving to the top of the handset as apposed to the bottom at present.

http://www.informationweek.com/gall...N?galleryID=297&imageID=7&articleID=202103424

If this was the case it would be a quick win for apple as i've always felt the speaker should face the user as apposed to away (at the bottom of the handset) Being deaf in my left ear i would support this more as the speaker is pretty lame compared to other handsets...still can't have everything in a phone.:apple::apple::apple::apple:
 
Not buying because you don't like the looks is fine

Although I will probably upgrade soon after the new iPhone starts shipping, one strike against upgrading is simply that I think my first generation iPhone looks and feels better than the current one, or (based on rumors) the newest (though we'll see, obviously).
At least you are honest here. That is important to me and you didn't try to bring negatively others into the discussion. Waiting and seeing is only a day or two off and I'm hoping for an iPhone that feels more secure in the hand. I just hope that people take all the features of the case into account before passing judgement.
The metal backing is classic, and the idea that this interferes with reception is silly. The biggest issue with reception is AT&T, not the phone.
That is wrong on a couple of accounts. First; iPhone had a couple of bugs at introduction that did impact reception and maintaining a signal with the cell tower. This is well known and patches where released to address it.
Second; there is some indication that the new iPhone back did improve the iPhone's RF performance.
Third; to say that metal doesn't impact RF transmissions is well silly. Various forms of metal have been used for years to shield RF circuits. Aluminum is often used in wave guides and other RF components.
Fourth; cell transmissions are week to begin with, even a little but of antenuation will impact performance.
I'm perfectly happy with my gen one phone. Now if I could get 3G (but no added cost), a better camera (not that big a deal) and more storage (32 gigs would be nice - 2 tb would be better :p ), AND my old housing . . . that would make me very happy.
Well I doubt that would happen. I understand the need though for more flash storage, Apple has been way to slow updating the storage capacities of these devices.

Hopefully the issue with the cases ends up being favorable to all of us. I'd really like a more slip resistant case myself. Plastic for me is a more manageble material in extremes of weather.


I find this weekend interesting in that there have been little in the way of leaks of the new iPhone's internals. The lack of solid external photo leaks is also interesting and makes one wonder if there will be a bigger surprise than many thought or suspect.


Dave
 
omg i cant believe there is no more shiny edge!!! that is just disgusting!! I didnt like the 3G cause i thought it was too black and now this one is even blaker!! i didnt think it was possible!! Please Apple come back to Aluminium!! my iPhone is the most beautiful and luxurious-looking phone in the world!!
 
Third; to say that metal doesn't impact RF transmissions is well silly. Various forms of metal have been used for years to shield RF circuits. Aluminum is often used in wave guides and other RF components.

Isn't that why they put the put the radio behind the black plastic bottom on the 1st gen? I agree with you that having to go through aluminum is tougher than plastic, however they solved that with the plastic bottom.

Or how about the signal getting through the other side that is glass?

Honestly I prefer the original case. And as far as signal goes. My 1st gen works just as good if not better in some circumstances than my girlfriends 3g, and we have had plenty of side by side comparison.
 
Crazy idea I have which may actually be possible if recent rumors are correct:

Taking the rumored front-facing camera and the compass + the back-drops technology which was introduced with Leopard I got the idea of actually having video calls sessions while replacing your background with a 3D backdrop environment. Example, when you turn around with the iPhone whilst in a video call, your backdrop could pan around with you by using the position picked up by the compass. Tilt the iPhone lover and not only does the image reveal more of your shoulders but actually moves the background with you! :cool:

That would really be pushing the technology and set the iPhone "light-years ahead" of the competition.
 
I think the current look is great and doesn't need much of a aesthetic update; just enough to differentiate between generations. Matte back and black bezel is fine in my book ....

Yeah, I think that would like just fine as well. I am FAR more interested in the hardware specs, software updates, new features, etc than outward appearance changes...

iPhone v3 wishlist:

# New processor with 600+ Mhz ARM Cortex-A8 core (or custom v7 ARM implementation from PA SEMI) and PowerVR SGX 530 graphics chip (or equivalent)

# New camera with autofocus, flash, 720P video recording, and most importantly a major upgrade to image quality, noise reduction, etc.

# New OLED display (Sharper 800x480 resolution made possible with new graphics/windowing system implementation that allows complete resolution-independence. Also integrated into Snow Leopard)

# CDMA EV-DO model with immediate availability on Verizon (a man can dream, right?)
 
I hope the phone does not look like that. It really looks cheap. Glossy black bezel with matte black back? I like t

If that is indeed the real deal I have a message that will never be heard by Apple but here it goes anyway:

If you're going to make an SR-71 Blackbird Phone, Apple, make an SR-71 Blackbird Phone, don't add shiny bits around it.
 
Crazy idea I have which may actually be possible if recent rumors are correct:

Taking the rumored front-facing camera and the compass + the back-drops technology which was introduced with Leopard I got the idea of actually having video calls sessions while replacing your background with a 3D backdrop environment. Example, when you turn around with the iPhone whilst in a video call, your backdrop could pan around with you by using the position picked up by the compass. Tilt the iPhone lover and not only does the image reveal more of your shoulders but actually moves the background with you! :cool:

That would really be pushing the technology and set the iPhone "light-years ahead" of the competition.


As awesome as that would be. I don't really see that happening for a LONG time. :/
 
i used to like the idea of a black trim on the iphone, but the more pictures i see, the worse it looks.
take a look at the mockup with the leaked bezel that was posted a few days ago compared to the original photo.. its nowhere near as nice.

To each his own. I much prefer the black bezel from the original touch. So much so that when I got my 2nd gen touch I got a Belkin skin that hides the chrome.
 
Although the picture could possibly be real, someone made the valid point that videochat through 3G networks seems like a long shot. Maybe through wifi...but so far I'm hoping that everyone's wrong because I don't see a lot of "killer features" that sets this version of the iPhone very far apart from the current iPhone.
 
Crazy idea I have which may actually be possible if recent rumors are correct:

Taking the rumored front-facing camera and the compass + the back-drops technology which was introduced with Leopard I got the idea of actually having video calls sessions while replacing your background with a 3D backdrop environment. Example, when you turn around with the iPhone whilst in a video call, your backdrop could pan around with you by using the position picked up by the compass. Tilt the iPhone lover and not only does the image reveal more of your shoulders but actually moves the background with you! :cool:

That would really be pushing the technology and set the iPhone "light-years ahead" of the competition.

Try it with Photo Booth and your Mac and you'll see it NOT work.
 
The iPhone 3G is PERFECT!

I have had an iPhone since day one stood in line and everything. Even the first gen is still better than anything else on the market including the new Pre...

I travel all over the world and love that AT&T works almost everywhere I have ever been.

Now having said that there are three things I would like to see iPhone offer...

A rugged (MILITARY SPEC) form factor option for those of us who don't work 9-5 office jobs. Also want a much louder ringer so that I can hear it in a louder setting. And lastly with the rugged form factor I would be happy to give up sex appeal for heavy duty protective case and a much thicker battery that would give me up to 24 hours of heavy duty use!

Having said that Apple keep making great products and I will keep buying them.

Kevin
 
I have had an iPhone since day one stood in line and everything. Even the first gen is still better than anything else on the market including the new Pre...

I travel all over the world and love that AT&T works almost everywhere I have ever been.

Now having said that there are three things I would like to see iPhone offer...

A rugged (MILITARY SPEC) form factor option for those of us who don't work 9-5 office jobs. Also want a much louder ringer so that I can hear it in a louder setting. And lastly with the rugged form factor I would be happy to give up sex appeal for heavy duty protective case and a much thicker battery that would give me up to 24 hours of heavy duty use!

Having said that Apple keep making great products and I will keep buying them.

Kevin

Oh, so you've used a Pre?
 
A rugged (MILITARY SPEC) form factor option for those of us who don't work 9-5 office jobs. Also want a much louder ringer so that I can hear it in a louder setting. And lastly with the rugged form factor I would be happy to give up sex appeal for heavy duty protective case and a much thicker battery that would give me up to 24 hours of heavy duty use!

a) The current ringer on the iPhone is one of the loudest I've heard in a while...maybe that's just me but I think it's pretty loud.

b) Since when does Apple do "rugged form factor"? Examples: MacBooks in general, iPhones, iPods...
 
A rugged (MILITARY SPEC) form factor option for those of us who don't work 9-5 office jobs. Also want a much louder ringer so that I can hear it in a louder setting. And lastly with the rugged form factor I would be happy to give up sex appeal for heavy duty protective case and a much thicker battery that would give me up to 24 hours of heavy duty use!

iphone isn't for you, buy another phone!
cheers
 
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