More Signs of Low iPhone 14 Demand Emerge Across Resale Market and Supply Chain

[Bawstun]

Good. Lazy design should not be rewarded. I wish sales were even 3x lower than what they are, actually.

 

[linkgx1]

Feels like the 5c all over again…

 

[linkgx1]

Sometimes I feel out of place on this forum. Replacement for the sake of replacement seems wasteful and simply dumb. I replace my devices when they get old or don't do something I need it to do. The not doing something I need it to do on my phone rarely happens for me. My last phone was an iPhone 8. My current one is an iPhone 13. Probably won't be replacing for a few years down the road. Same goes with my iPad Pro and my Macbook Pro.

I don't need bling. I need to get work done.

A lot of them are drinking the apple juice. Because Apple says they need it, then they buy it. Never mind a lot of features were on other devices and they didn’t care about it before. I have the 13 Pro, unless I can get a good trade in value…I’m gonna keep it. It’s like the perfect phone

 

[Gunga Din]

Its possible to be honest and this is just speculation on my part, but internally the iPhone might actually be at a crossroads. Its becoming harder for them to find new frontiers with the device, for the past 15 years, it has already consumed most everything we would need a third party device for. The SoC itself, it is already showing that there is a zenith there. My iPhone X is still faster, groggy in some areas, but I probably just need to clear some caches and delete some apps.

I think tech in general has burst its bubble. I mean, do i really need to upgrade from AMD AM4 to AM5, no. Is my RTX 3070 good for the next 3 yrs, yep. Is my M1 pro chip good for next 3 yrs (I only use it for music production) , yep.

I don't need to upgrade any of my tech for at least 3-4 yrs to be honest. And if my iphone 12 mini battery keeps working, i wont need another phone till it dies.

I'm not one to get a new shiny toy just to show off.

Hell i still have 2 55" panasonic plasma tv's that run flawlessly and they are both 8 yrs old lol

 

[yukari]

It means 13 mini is not as bad as 14?
So Apple needs to bring back mini!

 

[rizzo41999]

It’s the model I’m considering also. You can point to the advantages of the pro, but do any of them really change the usage? For me, I think the answer is no except maybe for telephoto zoom. But the pro is also annoyingly heavier. I’ll probably go to an Apple Store soon and compare side by side, but on balance, the regular 14 seems better for me.

I had the same exact sentiment. I personally wouldn't be using the Pro any differently than I would the 14 so I opted to save the few bucks and get what I need. I'm one of the folks who walks around with an SLR when I want to take photos haha

 

[turbineseaplane]

Hell i still have 2 55" panasonic plasma tv's that run flawlessly and they are both 8 yrs old lol

Rocking Panny 60" and 50" plasmas side by side (sports watching) from 2010/2011

Beautiful hardware that still looks sensational

I won't replace them until forced

 

[jlc1978]

Can they just please always keep a new Mini in the lineup?

Even if it doesn't sell bananas crazy, it has sold more than well "enough" and it's the only size that is even remotely attractive to many of us out here.

The problem with adding the mini is twofold:

1. Low demand meaning higher per unit costs and price is likely to result in reduced margins
2. It would take up production that could be used for higher demand and margin products

Making it unattractive as product

I think tech in general has burst its bubble. I mean, do i really need to upgrade from AMD AM4 to AM5, no. Is my RTX 3070 good for the next 3 yrs, yep. Is my M1 pro chip good for next 3 yrs (I only use it for music production) , yep.

I'm the same. Unless there is a compelling reason to upgrade I don't. I used to be on a 3 year MBP upgrade cycle because that was when AC ran out; but now with the ability to extend it my cycle may be longer.

As much as I like the M1 iPad Po 12 inch, my older version does everything I need; especially since I already have the Magic Keyboard.

 

[desmond2046]

The iPhone 14 models have depreciated in value more than twice as much as the iPhone 13 in the same time frame last year, according to data gathered by SellCell.

SellCell's analysis is based on averaged trade-in values from over 40 buyback vendors. The data shows that the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus are performing poorly in terms of value retention, depreciating twice as much as the iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 mini in the same 10-day period after launch. In the 10 days after launch, the standard iPhone 14 models lost 38.4 percent of their value on average, over double the 18.2 percent depreciation of the iPhone 13 models in the same timeframe last year.

The 512GB iPhone 14 is the worst-performing model, depreciating 40.3 percent during the 10 days after launch. Last year, the 512GB iPhone 13 mini was Apple's fastest depreciating model, losing 29.8 percent of its value 10 days after launch, followed by the 512GB iPhone 13, which lost 27.2 percent of its value.

While the iPhone 14 Plus is not yet available, aftermarket prices for the device are already in place, showing an expected average depreciation of 38.6 percent for the device. Naturally, this is subject to change once the device is available and the market can better evaluate demand.

The situation is markedly better for the iPhone 14 Pro Max, which has depreciated by just 19.6 percent. This is 1.8 percent better than last year's iPhone 13 Pro Max in the 10 days after launch. With deprecation of 18.2 percent, the 512GB iPhone 14 Pro Max is the best-performing model overall, compared to the 256GB iPhone 13 from last year, which lost just 9.9 percent of its value. As a whole, the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max are depreciating at a similar rate to the iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max, indicating similar strong demand.

The information is in line with multiple other reports claiming that there is low demand for the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus. Earlier today, display analyst Ross Young tweeted that panel orders for the iPhone 14 are down 38 percent versus the iPhone 13 at the same time last year. He added that iPhone 14 Pro Max panel orders are up 18 percent compared to the iPhone 13 Pro Max.

Shortly after launch, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said that demand for the two devices is "lackluster," with worse pre-order results than the third-generation iPhone SE and the iPhone 13 mini. He went as far as to claim that "Apple's product segmentation strategy for standard models fails this year" and Apple is believed to have shelved plans to increase production of the two devices. On the other hand, the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max continue to see high demand.

Article Link: More Signs of Low iPhone 14 Demand Emerge Across Resale Market and Supply Chain

I would love to know how/where to get a 10 days old iPhone 14 at 60% of original price!

 

[chivkea]

Should have kept the mini line.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Should have kept the mini line.

The one model that could legitimately benefit from SIM slot removal to make room for component/battery space.
....and they killed it

 

[cocky jeremy]

Oh, so you think that wasn’t intentional?

Definitely not saying that. I'm sure it was on purpose to get people to Pro models. Just saying the 3 week delay alone killed any momentum that could be picked up for it.

 

[I7guy]

What does it mean? People are selling their new iPhone 14 10 days after the purchase for 60% or the original cost?

Why sell it when you can return it?

 

[cocky jeremy]

Most people in the market for non pro phones don’t preorder or even buy at launch. The real proof of demand from the casual non techs crowd is how these phones sell once they are in stores

And anyone that did want to preorder either went to a regular 14, a 14 Pro, or a 14 Pro Max because who wants to wait 3 extra weeks when something new is already available?

 

[FNH15]

What does this mean for next year revs? They can’t shoot themselves in the foot twice? I suspect all models of the iPhone 15 will carry flagship design features and software with exception of the display, camera and finish. But A17, Dynamic Island and possibly RAM might be standard this time. Apple has got to realize people are holding onto these phones much longer. I don’t see many on 12, 13, 14 Pros all upgrading to the 15.

I upgraded from an XS, and even I felt kinda guilty upgrading - the XS was still a solid phone.

If I had a 12 Pro or higher, I definitely wouldn’t have upgraded. A 4 year upgrade window probably makes the most sense these days.

Now, if I had an Xr or an 11, then I can understand upgrading more frequently.

 

[vikingjunior]

Maybe they should've gone with an iPhone 14 6.5" that was the sweet spot.

Another thing is the iPhone 14 is an ego killer, unlike the Pro.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I would really like to see an iPhone Air

Everything keeps getting bigger and heavier here..

Some intelligent feature choices and compromises to do a model that sets a new direction/trend would be wonderful.

Even on cameras ... I have to think we are past "needing" most of these improvements for the vast majority of folks. It definitely seems good to keep the Pro line doing whatever they want there, but for the rest of us, a more svelte and lighter device option sure would be nice.

The iPhone lineup just has very little (if any) true differentiation in it anymore

 

[I7guy]

I upgraded from an XS, and even I felt kinda guilty upgrading - the XS was still a solid phone.

If I had a 12 Pro or higher, I definitely wouldn’t have upgraded. A 4 year upgrade window probably makes the most sense these days.

Now, if I had an Xr or an 11, then I can understand upgrading more frequently.

Yes. the iphone 14, no matter which line, is a solid upgrade from 2018 phones and earlier. The iphone 14, imo, is not a solid upgrade although definitely an upgrade from the iphone 12 and 13.

 

[coachgq]

No wonder, the new A chip and a lot of new features (i.e. Dynamic Island) are only found in the Pro and the 14 is just a revison of the 13 anyway.

Apple goaded people to the pro-line with the A-chip divide in its line-up people that look for an upgrade are more likely to turn to the Pro model. A move probably intended by Apple.

I agree. There wasn’t enough for people moving from 13 Pro to 14 Pro, so that had to dip into the 13 users to get them to jump to 14 Pro. I’ve been a pro phone user for a few years and now I just recycle them down to my kids then to TMo to get free with bill credits after that 2nd year of ownership.

 

[Havoc035]

This makes sense given how lacklustre this update was. Recently a family member ordered an iPhone 13 based on my advice. The iPhone 14 is just not worth the extra cost.

 

[NashMan2]

As others are saying, there is not a big enough difference in the 13 and 13 pros to justify simply upgrading to the standard 14 models. Also, the differences are more pronounced this year between the 14 (non-pro) and 14 Pro models. You can't fool your friends into thinking you upgraded to the 14 Pro when you didn't.

 

[AndiG]

Apple should stop fooling people. Apple wins the gold medal when it comes to charging a high price and deliver only minimal changes. Apple could have delivered USB-C or Dynamic Island at nearly no cost. Cutting OLED panels is standard for Samsung, LG, younameit. All Android phones have it.

Also USB-C, all iPads have it, all Android phones have it. Apple thinks, it can sell it to you next year as an invention …

 

[SnappleRumors]

I had dinner with some friends who don't keep up on most all of this, but they do have plenty of disposable income and the couple both usually just "get the new phone each year"..

Both of them were different this year...

The main question I kept getting (as they know I do keep up on this) is...."what's different"? and "seems like the same phone basically"

They aren't upgrading

I used to upgrade annually when on the go more but since the pandemic I‘ve scaled back a lot. I rarely use my iPhone.

 

[MrMojo1]

Sometimes I feel out of place on this forum. Replacement for the sake of replacement seems wasteful and simply dumb. I replace my devices when they get old or don't do something I need it to do. The not doing something I need it to do on my phone rarely happens for me. My last phone was an iPhone 8. My current one is an iPhone 13. Probably won't be replacing for a few years down the road. Same goes with my iPad Pro and my Macbook Pro.

I don't need bling. I need to get work done.

Many websites have certain people who are not representative of the general public.
MR is full of Apple enthusiasts and tech lovers so they must have the latest Apple product even if the newer product has incremental upgrades. They must have the latest Apple bling.

Many other people, like the general public, keep their iPhones for years, even after iOS updates are gone though security updates are still relatively available. Some would even buy refurb models even though those models aren't the latest models but it's 'good enough' and 'new' to them.

If you like what you have, then so be it. You be you!
To each their own.

 

[Adam Henry]

when i upgraded my 12pro to 13pro last year i didnt notice any difference. even the photos the 13 took looked just like the photos from the 12. im done doing the yearly upgrades and will keep the 13 until i lose it or it breaks. waste of money.