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Motorola Teases New Tablet in Teaser Promo, Disses the iPad

WhySoSerious said:
i'm so sick of people saying this. you're not telling anyone anything they don't already know....so why do people keep saying this.

it's like also telling people, oxygen is a good thing.

*DUH* :rolleyes:
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I apologize for offending you.

I was replying to the multitude of people who seem upset by a competing tablet.

I'll try to keep my opinions to myself from now on.

Though, I have to say... your reply is a bit ironic, considering your avatar.
 
NebulaClash said:
Yeah, well, almost a decade ago we saw lots of pot shots taken at the iPod, and lots of pundits predicting that soon the iPod would fade in market share, and how the future belonged to the competitors who were rushing to market and . . .

. . . yeah, we know how that turned out. Seems the infrastructure around the iPod made it more popular than those competitor's devices. It could never be beaten, and it never was. Despite the predictions.

Same thing will be true with the iPad.
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Ain't THAT the truth! GREAT POST.

Just as the iPod was a game-changer...despite all the pundits...the iPad will be too.

The others...iPod challengers and iPad challengers...were/are "also-rans."
 
To be honest despite owning an iPad, and having bought a 2nd one for my parents, I still thought it was a funny ad.
 
It's quite a good ad, but have motorola even used an iPad? Other iPad users will agree that it is more than just a big iPhone.
And one last point:

Why are they dissing the iPad? I mean, that's where their tablet got the idea from. Companies like these clearly can't come up with original ideas, they're like sheep
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And this is the company who was nearly become bankrupt before they made motorola Droid...

If it wasn't for Android, they would be out of business now like palm.

Motorola uses cheap materials on their products like say... plastics. While I appreciate the competitions, they need to show me something before I will say nice.
 
Here's the thing... whenever I see an ad that directly references the competition like this I immediately start worrying about the product. Seriously, the moment you start defining your product in terms of what the competition is rather than just letting it stand on its own you're in real trouble. Firstly because you're instantly ensuring that it'll get compared to that competitor by everyone and secondly because you leave yourself open for the competition to shift the goalposts on you.

Let me put it this way... look at Apple's iOS device adverts. Like them or not the confidence Apple has in their products shines through. They just put them front and centre and show them running software. And it works, those ads just scream 'quality product'. Even with OS X they kept it to 'a PC' rather than, say, a Dell or HP machine or even refering to a specific version of Windows (most of the time anyway) and dealt only with abstract concepts (again, most of the time). Now take another look at this ad and the instant the iPad and Galaxy Tab are shown the narrative is out of Motorola's hands.

Just as a f'instance: Motorola launches this thing at CES for delivery sometime in 1st half 2011. They show off Honeycomb with whatever changes and improvements that has. First question they're going to get asked is: "And this is different from the iPad... how?". There should be no need to even ask that question, the tech journalists should be automaticaly writing 'it's better than the iPad because X Y Z' but now you've ensured that you're going to waste time and energy defending the product rather than simply showing how much better it is.
 
The ad was mildly clever at best. Like one poster said, I'll need to see a quality product before I buy into the hype.
 
smiddlehurst said:
Here's the thing... whenever I see an ad that directly references the competition like this I immediately start worrying about the product. Seriously, the moment you start defining your product in terms of what the competition is rather than just letting it stand on its own you're in real trouble. Firstly because you're instantly ensuring that it'll get compared to that competitor by everyone and secondly because you leave yourself open for the competition to shift the goalposts on you.

Let me put it this way... look at Apple's iOS device adverts. Like them or not the confidence Apple has in their products shines through. They just put them front and centre and show them running software. And it works, those ads just scream 'quality product'. Even with OS X they kept it to 'a PC' rather than, say, a Dell or HP machine or even refering to a specific version of Windows (most of the time anyway) and dealt only with abstract concepts (again, most of the time). Now take another look at this ad and the instant the iPad and Galaxy Tab are shown the narrative is out of Motorola's hands.

Just as a f'instance: Motorola launches this thing at CES for delivery sometime in 1st half 2011. They show off Honeycomb with whatever changes and improvements that has. First question they're going to get asked is: "And this is different from the iPad... how?". There should be no need to even ask that question, the tech journalists should be automaticaly writing 'it's better than the iPad because X Y Z' but now you've ensured that you're going to waste time and energy defending the product rather than simply showing how much better it is.
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Very true. Nice post! ;)

Oh, look - seems Motorola has posted a countdown: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...oes-live-with-countdown-jan-5th-at-415pm-pst/ Hello, hype! Can you deliver?
 
smiddlehurst said:
Here's the thing... whenever I see an ad that directly references the competition like this I immediately start worrying about the product. Seriously, the moment you start defining your product in terms of what the competition is rather than just letting it stand on its own you're in real trouble. Firstly because you're instantly ensuring that it'll get compared to that competitor by everyone and secondly because you leave yourself open for the competition to shift the goalposts on you.

Let me put it this way... look at Apple's iOS device adverts. Like them or not the confidence Apple has in their products shines through. They just put them front and centre and show them running software. And it works, those ads just scream 'quality product'. Even with OS X they kept it to 'a PC' rather than, say, a Dell or HP machine or even refering to a specific version of Windows (most of the time anyway) and dealt only with abstract concepts (again, most of the time). Now take another look at this ad and the instant the iPad and Galaxy Tab are shown the narrative is out of Motorola's hands.

Just as a f'instance: Motorola launches this thing at CES for delivery sometime in 1st half 2011. They show off Honeycomb with whatever changes and improvements that has. First question they're going to get asked is: "And this is different from the iPad... how?". There should be no need to even ask that question, the tech journalists should be automaticaly writing 'it's better than the iPad because X Y Z' but now you've ensured that you're going to waste time and energy defending the product rather than simply showing how much better it is.
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VERY true. A quality product sells itself.
 
Agree with most of you are saying, I don't want to see other companies dishes the iPad in the ads. I want to see what they can do..
 
Fraaaa said:
How exactly? Motorola is irrelevant as the competition really is iOS vs Android), and apparently Motorola is going to use just another Android version for its tablet, as there weren't enough versions already.

This tablet is going to merge with all other Android based tablets are coming out throught 2011.

Want Android?
Pick your Android OS version;
Pick one of the tablets of your like.

-my opinion-



And yet 7+ millions unit sold...
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competition is healthy - why not spur more innovation from both sides?

i don't get why it's a bad thing - its a great thing!

dude i have an iphone and i'm more likely to buy an ipad - it's not an insult - it's the truth - it's an oversized touch
 
reactions said:
competition is healthy - why not spur more innovation from both sides?

i don't get why it's a bad thing - its a great thing!

dude i have an iphone and i'm more likely to buy an ipad - it's not an insult - it's the truth - it's an oversized touch
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There's nothing wrong with a little extra screen real estate, now is there? ;)
 
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Apple... said:
reactions said:
competition is healthy - why not spur more innovation from both sides?

i don't get why it's a bad thing - its a great thing!

dude i have an iphone and i'm more likely to buy an ipad - it's not an insult - it's the truth - it's an oversized touch
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There's nothing wrong with a little extra screen real estate, now is there? ;)
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Heck no! Give me my giant iPhone

Er I mean iPad

Seriously if anyone is offended then I must be the bigger apple fanboy
 
Tunster said:
What? You're comparing a 1GHz fanless iPad to a clunky underpowered net book that runs a power hungry OS? Get with perspective here. I've not seen any tests to claim android's webkit browser is faster than apple's. I'm typing on my iPad as we speak and I've not seen it go slow once. You have an obsession for speed by the sounds of it. Give me reliability which iOS 4.2 is all about. YouTube is clunky anyway. Some videos load slower than others anyway regardless of connection.
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Windows tablets browse the web faster and load YouTube just fine. No, YouTube isn't 'just clunky anyway.' It seems Apple fans have gotten accustomed to dismissing things that their devices can't do so much that the extra functionality actually is a negative thing. Look up videos on YouTube, the Android browser in 2.2 runs circles around Mobile Safari. All videos buffer in record time on my computer and on my previous Windows Tablet. The iPad has no excuse. The so-called "clunky netbook" happens to run circles around the iPad when it comes to functionality and speed. Yes, booting will take a minute (unless you mastered the 'magic' of hibernation and sleep,) but once it's booted, it will hand the iPad a nice piece of its ass on a silver plate when it comes to... well anything, really.

It's not totally restricted. VLC will play anything and everything on the iPad. You can drag in whatever format VLC supports directly into the app rather than go through the iTunes formats. You need to do your research a bit more. I can take off stuff in iTunes. You just need to go to the iTunes media folder and then copy and paste it out. Simples.
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That requires I sync my apps automatically. What if I like to manually manage files? And I have to use a third party app and take extra steps to get videos to work whereas any WinTab or, well, anything out there will let you just drag and drop and play with context menus. If the user has to find a workaround for every stupid little thing Apple does to limit the software some more, whether it be using HTML5 instead of the dominant Flash, using some hacks or 3rd party software to do AirPrint because Apple removed the functionality, using VLC instead of drag and drop, jailbreaking instead of depending on AppStore apps, and using SharePod to get things off the device instead of just using iTunes, then I frankly don't see how any sensible person can consider this a company that does things in its customers' best interest. And no, you can't take music/videos off your iDevice without using 3rd party software.

moondad said:
I don't understand this at all?

Removing media from iTunes is incredibly simple - you just highlight the song/movie/whatever in the device's media list and press the delete key.

If you want to delete a movie in the Videos app, you can even do it directly on iPad, in exactly the same way as you delete apps on the homepage.
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Not delete, but copy from device onto the computer.
 
Apple... said:
I feel the same way. Other than the iPad's, the other taunts made sense (some of which were quite funny). As aohus already stated, I wonder if MOT knows they're going up against iPad 2?
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If the iPad is so bad, why are Motorola and Samsung copying it :confused:
Yet in every ad for some iPad competitor/knockoff they complain about the iPad :D

I also agree, every tablet is a phone. If the iPad was the same but didn't have the phone capability, would people complain less?

smiddlehurst said:
Here's the thing... whenever I see an ad that directly references the competition like this I immediately start worrying about the product. Seriously, the moment you start defining your product in terms of what the competition is rather than just letting it stand on its own you're in real trouble. Firstly because you're instantly ensuring that it'll get compared to that competitor by everyone and secondly because you leave yourself open for the competition to shift the goalposts on you.

Let me put it this way... look at Apple's iOS device adverts. Like them or not the confidence Apple has in their products shines through. They just put them front and centre and show them running software. And it works, those ads just scream 'quality product'. Even with OS X they kept it to 'a PC' rather than, say, a Dell or HP machine or even refering to a specific version of Windows (most of the time anyway) and dealt only with abstract concepts (again, most of the time). Now take another look at this ad and the instant the iPad and Galaxy Tab are shown the narrative is out of Motorola's hands.

Just as a f'instance: Motorola launches this thing at CES for delivery sometime in 1st half 2011. They show off Honeycomb with whatever changes and improvements that has. First question they're going to get asked is: "And this is different from the iPad... how?". There should be no need to even ask that question, the tech journalists should be automaticaly writing 'it's better than the iPad because X Y Z' but now you've ensured that you're going to waste time and energy defending the product rather than simply showing how much better it is.
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The second paragraph summarizes Consumer Reports :p
Of course, you MUST attack Apple stuff. Otherwise, who would buy a magazine stating the obvious, "The iPhone is the device of the year!"???
 
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Jack97 said:
It's quite a good ad, but have motorola even used an iPad? Other iPad users will agree that it is more than just a big iPhone.
And one last point:

Why are they dissing the iPad? I mean, that's where their tablet got the idea from. Companies like these clearly can't come up with original ideas, they're like sheep
:apple:
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Yea it's not a big iPhone. It can't make phone calls :p
 
smiddlehurst said:
Here's the thing... whenever I see an ad that directly references the competition like this I immediately start worrying about the product. Seriously, the moment you start defining your product in terms of what the competition is rather than just letting it stand on its own you're in real trouble. Firstly because you're instantly ensuring that it'll get compared to that competitor by everyone and secondly because you leave yourself open for the competition to shift the goalposts on you.

Let me put it this way... look at Apple's iOS device adverts. Like them or not the confidence Apple has in their products shines through. They just put them front and centre and show them running software. And it works, those ads just scream 'quality product'. Even with OS X they kept it to 'a PC' rather than, say, a Dell or HP machine or even refering to a specific version of Windows (most of the time anyway) and dealt only with abstract concepts (again, most of the time). Now take another look at this ad and the instant the iPad and Galaxy Tab are shown the narrative is out of Motorola's hands.

Just as a f'instance: Motorola launches this thing at CES for delivery sometime in 1st half 2011. They show off Honeycomb with whatever changes and improvements that has. First question they're going to get asked is: "And this is different from the iPad... how?". There should be no need to even ask that question, the tech journalists should be automaticaly writing 'it's better than the iPad because X Y Z' but now you've ensured that you're going to waste time and energy defending the product rather than simply showing how much better it is.
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To be fair, Steve Jobs spends a lot of time during his presentations talking down the competition.

Every company does it, especially if their competitors have a certain level of success.
 
Dorkington said:
To be fair, Steve Jobs spends a lot of time during his presentations talking down the competition.

Every company does it, especially if their competitors have a certain level of success.
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Yes, and during a presentation you can get away with it because you've got an hour+ to play with, you're immediately showing why your product is better and, again, setting the narrative for your product. Plus, let's face it, only geeks watch keynotes anyway ;)

Advertising, even teaser pieces like this, is a very different game. You've got maybe a minute to get a message across and if your product can't stand on its own without directly showcasing the competition that's not a good sign. Worse, a lot of the time it doesn't need to be that way (in this case the ad is actually very clever until it does the Tab and iPad) but companies have so little faith in their product being able to speak for itself they try this sort of thing instead.
 
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