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Please tell me all about the implementation, since you're so well versed in something that doesn't even exist yet 🤣
Now I know a lot of my fellow MacRumors readers won't be able to digest someone moving to another mobile operating system, and their comments always make me laugh. Blindly accepting and praising any brand, no matter how irrational the fan-following is, slows down innovation and lets the others move forward.
In my original post, I did predict such replies. Happy to find one.
 
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Here you go ;)

The worst part about GrapheneOS, at least from what I have seen, is that it can swing things into the other direction. Yes it is more privacy focused than pretty well any other version of Android running on any other major Android phones. But the cost of that privacy in terms of time and ease of use can turn off more casual users who are just concerned over Google harvesting their data. Google's recent change to the frequency of AOSP releases may make GrapheneOS development more difficult than it already is, which really sucks for the dev team because I think they do great work.
 
I would disagree with most of what you said. As a user of both I find Android is better or the same in many of the things you mentioned. You are the typical Apple fanboy that imitates what others around you say. I currently am using an iphone, apple watch, MacbookPro, and Air Pod Pro 2 and I really wish "they just worked" as good as the Android counterparts.

As a person that works in IT and supports many end users and platforms I have learned over the last two+ decades that Apple users aren't technically savy people and that is the real reason they use Apple products. The apple users that switch to Android and go running back to Apple........they weren't smart enough to figure out a new OS that isn't that much different nowadays than the one they came from lol.
You’re labeling Apple users as stupid. Quite literally insulting them.

Apple is used by people who value usability and who aren’t interested in being engineers fiddling with technical details and settings. They don’t use Apple because they’re too stupid to figure out how to use Android, but because Android’s usability is worse and more confusing, and they don’t have the interest for all that tweaking. The problem isn’t the users; it’s the user interface and the implementation.

Blaming the user only shows that you don’t really understand anything about the importance of user experience and usability. And for the record, I am a technical person myself: I studied computer science as my major, I’m a software developer, and I use Apple.
 
I would disagree with most of what you said. As a user of both I find Android is better or the same in many of the things you mentioned. You are the typical Apple fanboy that imitates what others around you say. I currently am using an iphone, apple watch, MacbookPro, and Air Pod Pro 2 and I really wish "they just worked" as good as the Android counterparts.

As a person that works in IT and supports many end users and platforms I have learned over the last two+ decades that Apple users aren't technically savy people and that is the real reason they use Apple products. The apple users that switch to Android and go running back to Apple........they weren't smart enough to figure out a new OS that isn't that much different nowadays than the one they came from lol.
As someone who has also worked in IT support for 2+ decades, I've just found that MOST people aren't tech savvy REGARDLESS of the platform they choose, which often case in an enterprise environment isn't even a choice. There are Windows power users, there are Mac power users, there are Linux power users, there are Graphene power users. I choose an iPhone because I don't want to faf around with a bunch of extra settings, and I am happy prescribing to what "Apple thinks best", because +75% I find that it's agreeable for me personally. I'm not really sure what other superpowers you've gained to infer someones intelligence level based on what device their using, which again in enterprise (since we are talking IT), is almost never the choice of the end user.
 
because Android’s usability is worse and more confusing, and they don’t have the interest for all that tweaking.
But then you're making the opposite error of assuming anything about Android is fiddly or difficult. It might have been a decade ago, but it is today a really easy to learn and use OS. The fact that Android appeals to a larger user base because it can be used by those who like to tinker, doesn't mean iOS is more usable. In a great many ways, it is user hostile, unintuitive, and poorly designed. But neither OS requires you to be an engineer. I think both OSes are like Othello... a minute to learn, a lifetime to master.

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But then you're making the opposite error of assuming anything about Android is fiddly or difficult. It might have been a decade ago, but it is today a really easy to learn and use OS. The fact that Android appeals to a larger user base because it can be used by those who like to tinker, doesn't mean iOS is more usable. In a great many ways, it is user hostile, unintuitive, and poorly designed. But neither OS requires you to be an engineer. I think both OSes are like Othello... a minute to learn, a lifetime to master.
It also negates the fact that there are a ton of different flavors of Android. Don't like one? Pick another!
 
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The Pixels are great phones. I had two different models before switching to iPhone in November 2024. My wife just got the Pixel 10 Pro XL and loves it. Enjoy your new device!
Got a Pixel 10 Pro XL myself, switched from an iPhone 15 Pro Max. Solid phone, and the call screening feature is a huge plus. I've had it since August and I don't think I'm going back anytime soon.
 
iCloud Drive is mostly fine, until it starts downloading 800GB of files filling up my 1TB MacBook Pro. iCloud Photos is the most frustrating piece of software I've ever had, took me more than 2 months to upload 25GB of photos, on a 1GBPS internet connection. Starts and stops randomly, with no fix now or in sight.
I should've added this to my comment. Small files and folders appear instantly. When I uploaded 55 GB worth of files, it was slow. My Internet is a similar speed.
 
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We have a lot of discounts on iPhones here in India, the Air is nearly 25% off through Premium Resellers.
Fair enough.

Wouldn’t consider iPhone Air very representative though, cause it’s been a relative sales failure (at and due to its high list price), with Apple as unwilling as ever to reduce the sticker price.
 
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After 16 years on every (or alternate year) iPhone, I recently took the decision of moving everything to Google Cloud and Google Pixel.
The first reason was the painfully slow iCloud sync with files and photos, the second being the behaviour of the staff at Apple Store, Saket (careless, rude, and undeniably ego-filled). Complained via email to Joz, he replied, but nothing further really happened.

The Pixel has a great camera, nice video boost features, and mostly smooth software. The device is quite slow as compared to iPhone, processing power slow, but the AI is crazy nice, and far ahead of others.

Now I know a lot of my fellow MacRumors readers won't be able to digest someone moving to another mobile operating system, and their comments always make me laugh. Blindly accepting and praising any brand, no matter how irrational the fan-following is, slows down innovation and lets the others move forward.

PS: I am still using the M5 MacBook Pro, as there is nothing better.
While I won't be making the same change, good on you for not just complaining about perceived problems, but doing something about it. Sad that you had a bad experience at the App Store, but glad that you took action based on that. I don't think that alone will change their behaviors, but customers reacting with their wallets is the only thing that changes corporate decisions.
 
iCloud Drive is mostly fine, until it starts downloading 800GB of files filling up my 1TB MacBook Pro. iCloud Photos is the most frustrating piece of software I've ever had, took me more than 2 months to upload 25GB of photos, on a 1GBPS internet connection. Starts and stops randomly, with no fix now or in sight.
I will post my iCloud Photos experience here. At least for me, it seems like iCloud Photos is set to some kind of as far in the background sync as is possible. Like if any other app is syncing, then photos will pause. I've had success on my last 3 computer setups, closing out of every single app on my computer before I go to bed & so far, for all three, they've fully synced by the time I woke up. Prior to that, I had a similar issue where the initial sync would take weeks to complete. Hope this helps someone.
 
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After 16 years on every (or alternate year) iPhone, I recently took the decision of moving everything to Google Cloud and Google Pixel.
The first reason was the painfully slow iCloud sync with files and photos, the second being the behaviour of the staff at Apple Store, Saket (careless, rude, and undeniably ego-filled). Complained via email to Joz, he replied, but nothing further really happened.

The Pixel has a great camera, nice video boost features, and mostly smooth software. The device is quite slow as compared to iPhone, processing power slow, but the AI is crazy nice, and far ahead of others.

Now I know a lot of my fellow MacRumors readers won't be able to digest someone moving to another mobile operating system, and their comments always make me laugh. Blindly accepting and praising any brand, no matter how irrational the fan-following is, slows down innovation and lets the others move forward.

PS: I am still using the M5 MacBook Pro, as there is nothing better.
Switching to Android because of how people were acting at your specific Apple Store is very, um…odd. Also, the Pixel isn’t at all innovative. It’s been behind the iPhone and equivalent Samsung phones since the lineup launched back in 2017.

I’m not blindly fangirling Apple here either, I’ve had phones from a variety of brands, including Pixel. Aside from the camera, there’s nothing special about the Pixel. The iPhone still does video significantly better than any Pixel. And praising a device because of its AI slop features is also quite odd.
 
Switching to Android because of how people were acting at your specific Apple Store is very, um…odd. Also, the Pixel isn’t at all innovative. It’s been behind the iPhone and equivalent Samsung phones since the lineup launched back in 2017.

I’m not blindly fangirling Apple here either, I’ve had phones from a variety of brands, including Pixel. Aside from the camera, there’s nothing special about the Pixel. The iPhone still does video significantly better than any Pixel. And praising a device because of its AI slop features is also quite odd.
I do agree with you, on the video quality features. Calling Pixel not innovative, considering their Magic Cue and 100x Pro Res Zoom, is the odd thing. Also, a couple of years back, the only innovation in the iPhone was its material, which it turned out wasn't great either.
 
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I think both Android and iOS devices works fine. I have used iCloud in the past and it didn't work for me so I switched to Google for online storage and it's been great ever since. It is also good to use both to see what is different on each side. I have two phones at the moment, a Galaxy S9 (very old, but works fine for what I need) and a iPhone 13 mini. I also have an Android tablet and several Mac portable and desktops. All have good features and I don't think one device can do it all well.
This!
I've always felt I both like and dislike features on all different platforms. For macOS it still is ”annoy me the least”, but that doesn't mean I see things that are handled better elsewhere. The built-in window management in Windows 11 for example – still have to use Rectangle to get thing work the way I want in macOS as the built-in stuff is too slowly animated and more cumbersome to use.

I haven't used an Android phone full time in quite a while, but I'm sure I would think there are things that are better. Maybe even more so than iOS – could it be that Android annoys me the least? 🤔

I did see a Pixel 9 Pro in use yesterday and it seemed very fast (despite hearing this about the CPU etc. being slower than a comparable iPhone).
 
I do agree with you, on the video quality features. Calling Pixel not innovative, considering their Magic Cue and 100x Pro Res Zoom, is the odd thing. Also, a couple of years back, the only innovation in the iPhone was its material, which it turned out wasn't great either.
100x zoom isn't new lol. I have 100x zoom on my old Galaxy S22 Ultra from 2022 and its based on the same basic concept as the Pixel; it uses AI as well.

edit: removed incorrect claim that its optical, the s22 ultra doesn't have 100x optical zoom.
 
After 16 years on every (or alternate year) iPhone, I recently took the decision of moving everything to Google Cloud and Google Pixel.
The first reason was the painfully slow iCloud sync with files and photos, the second being the behaviour of the staff at Apple Store, Saket (careless, rude, and undeniably ego-filled). Complained via email to Joz, he replied, but nothing further really happened.

The Pixel has a great camera, nice video boost features, and mostly smooth software. The device is quite slow as compared to iPhone, processing power slow, but the AI is crazy nice, and far ahead of others.

Now I know a lot of my fellow MacRumors readers won't be able to digest someone moving to another mobile operating system, and their comments always make me laugh. Blindly accepting and praising any brand, no matter how irrational the fan-following is, slows down innovation and lets the others move forward.

PS: I am still using the M5 MacBook Pro, as there is nothing better.
After starting my smart phone journey with the original iPhone and many thereafter, I moved to the Nothing Phone 3 this past summer for many of the same Apple-related reasons and because of the lack of innovation in recent iterations of iPhones and iOS.

It has been a learning curve, but overall I am very impressed with both the Nothing hardware and skin and the Android ecosystem. The only thing I miss is the easy connectivity with my MacBook Pro and iPad Pro, but open source workarounds have given me the basic level of connectivity needed.
 
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I have been an Apple user my whole adult life. Though there was a few years ago where I had an Android. It was a Samsung A53 5G. I absolutely hated that phone. Sometimes it would freeze up randomly.

But still, the allure of Android is tempting, even though I swore to myself I would never use an Android again. Main thing that is preventing me from going to Android, is not being able to join existing group chats with other Iphone users.

As much as I may like the idea of Android, I just can't wrap my head around Google. I hate Google, the company and what it stands for.
 
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