Again, trying to find anywhere where I said anything along the lines that you were making a bad decision, coming up empty so far.
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BeerDrinkerDan
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Ah, this old trope. So nice to see it still lives on. From the IBM/PC vs Apple/Mac from my highschool days (mid to late 80s) to today, it's still out there. So obviously and demonstrably wrong.
-dan
HouseLannister
macrumors 68040
Apple does most of the heavy lifting for that one, not trusting its users to use a computing device like a computer. When I can remove Chess from a Mac and install my own icons and themes on an iPhone, I will reconsider Apple.
DankeBrutus
macrumors regular
The worst part about GrapheneOS, at least from what I have seen, is that it can swing things into the other direction. Yes it is more privacy focused than pretty well any other version of Android running on any other major Android phones. But the cost of that privacy in terms of time and ease of use can turn off more casual users who are just concerned over Google harvesting their data. Google's recent change to the frequency of AOSP releases may make GrapheneOS development more difficult than it already is, which really sucks for the dev team because I think they do great work.Here you go 😉
GrapheneOS: the private and secure mobile OS
GrapheneOS is a security and privacy focused mobile OS with Android app compatibility.grapheneos.org
Apple is used by people who value usability and who aren’t interested in being engineers fiddling with technical details and settings. They don’t use Apple because they’re too stupid to figure out how to use Android, but because Android’s usability is worse and more confusing, and they don’t have the interest for all that tweaking. The problem isn’t the users; it’s the user interface and the implementation.
Blaming the user only shows that you don’t really understand anything about the importance of user experience and usability. And for the record, I am a technical person myself: I studied computer science as my major, I’m a software developer, and I use Apple.
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I can understand why you would deny it but I witness it firsthand regularly. I did this morning here at work as a matter of fact
As someone who has also worked in IT support for 2+ decades, I've just found that MOST people aren't tech savvy REGARDLESS of the platform they choose, which often case in an enterprise environment isn't even a choice. There are Windows power users, there are Mac power users, there are Linux power users, there are Graphene power users. I choose an iPhone because I don't want to faf around with a bunch of extra settings, and I am happy prescribing to what "Apple thinks best", because +75% I find that it's agreeable for me personally. I'm not really sure what other superpowers you've gained to infer someones intelligence level based on what device their using, which again in enterprise (since we are talking IT), is almost never the choice of the end user.
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HouseLannister
macrumors 68040
But then you're making the opposite error of assuming anything about Android is fiddly or difficult. It might have been a decade ago, but it is today a really easy to learn and use OS. The fact that Android appeals to a larger user base because it can be used by those who like to tinker, doesn't mean iOS is more usable. In a great many ways, it is user hostile, unintuitive, and poorly designed. But neither OS requires you to be an engineer. I think both OSes are like Othello... a minute to learn, a lifetime to master.
It also negates the fact that there are a ton of different flavors of Android. Don't like one? Pick another!
Arkidelik
macrumors newbie
Got a Pixel 10 Pro XL myself, switched from an iPhone 15 Pro Max. Solid phone, and the call screening feature is a huge plus. I've had it since August and I don't think I'm going back anytime soon.
TechRunner
macrumors 68030
Pixel call screening is far superior to that on iPhones. I really miss that feature.
Bkdodger
macrumors 601
Welcome to Pixel family 
I hope you love your phone as much as I do my P10PXL
I hope you love your phone as much as I do my P10PXLI should've added this to my comment. Small files and folders appear instantly. When I uploaded 55 GB worth of files, it was slow. My Internet is a similar speed.
AppliedMicro
macrumors 68040
Fair enough.
Wouldn’t consider iPhone Air very representative though, cause it’s been a relative sales failure (at and due to its high list price), with Apple as unwilling as ever to reduce the sticker price.
While I won't be making the same change, good on you for not just complaining about perceived problems, but doing something about it. Sad that you had a bad experience at the App Store, but glad that you took action based on that. I don't think that alone will change their behaviors, but customers reacting with their wallets is the only thing that changes corporate decisions.
I will post my iCloud Photos experience here. At least for me, it seems like iCloud Photos is set to some kind of as far in the background sync as is possible. Like if any other app is syncing, then photos will pause. I've had success on my last 3 computer setups, closing out of every single app on my computer before I go to bed & so far, for all three, they've fully synced by the time I woke up. Prior to that, I had a similar issue where the initial sync would take weeks to complete. Hope this helps someone.
BeerDrinkerDan
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Madonepro
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eveluvsrainbows
macrumors 6502a
Switching to Android because of how people were acting at your specific Apple Store is very, um…odd. Also, the Pixel isn’t at all innovative. It’s been behind the iPhone and equivalent Samsung phones since the lineup launched back in 2017.
I’m not blindly fangirling Apple here either, I’ve had phones from a variety of brands, including Pixel. Aside from the camera, there’s nothing special about the Pixel. The iPhone still does video significantly better than any Pixel. And praising a device because of its AI slop features is also quite odd.
I do agree with you, on the video quality features. Calling Pixel not innovative, considering their Magic Cue and 100x Pro Res Zoom, is the odd thing. Also, a couple of years back, the only innovation in the iPhone was its material, which it turned out wasn't great either.
star-affinity
macrumors 68020
This!
I've always felt I both like and dislike features on all different platforms. For macOS it still is ”annoy me the least”, but that doesn't mean I see things that are handled better elsewhere. The built-in window management in Windows 11 for example – still have to use Rectangle to get thing work the way I want in macOS as the built-in stuff is too slowly animated and more cumbersome to use.
I haven't used an Android phone full time in quite a while, but I'm sure I would think there are things that are better. Maybe even more so than iOS – could it be that Android annoys me the least? 🤔
I did see a Pixel 9 Pro in use yesterday and it seemed very fast (despite hearing this about the CPU etc. being slower than a comparable iPhone).
eveluvsrainbows
macrumors 6502a
100x zoom isn't new lol. I have 100x zoom on my old Galaxy S22 Ultra from 2022 and its based on the same basic concept as the Pixel; it uses AI as well.
edit: removed incorrect claim that its optical, the s22 ultra doesn't have 100x optical zoom.
After starting my smart phone journey with the original iPhone and many thereafter, I moved to the Nothing Phone 3 this past summer for many of the same Apple-related reasons and because of the lack of innovation in recent iterations of iPhones and iOS.
It has been a learning curve, but overall I am very impressed with both the Nothing hardware and skin and the Android ecosystem. The only thing I miss is the easy connectivity with my MacBook Pro and iPad Pro, but open source workarounds have given me the basic level of connectivity needed.
ClaraStahlbaum
macrumors 6502a
I have been an Apple user my whole adult life. Though there was a few years ago where I had an Android. It was a Samsung A53 5G. I absolutely hated that phone. Sometimes it would freeze up randomly.
But still, the allure of Android is tempting, even though I swore to myself I would never use an Android again. Main thing that is preventing me from going to Android, is not being able to join existing group chats with other Iphone users.
As much as I may like the idea of Android, I just can't wrap my head around Google. I hate Google, the company and what it stands for.
But still, the allure of Android is tempting, even though I swore to myself I would never use an Android again. Main thing that is preventing me from going to Android, is not being able to join existing group chats with other Iphone users.
As much as I may like the idea of Android, I just can't wrap my head around Google. I hate Google, the company and what it stands for.
Parowdy
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Oh ok I missed that, I interpreted all the whining about waiting for the new M5 Mac’s as that in general, not waiting for M5 Pro or Max. You you’re completely right pointing that out, thanks 🤦♂️😅