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New G4 iBooks
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Originally posted by mvc
Yep, I was watching a 45yr old reading a map at arms length the other day - he couldn't get it far enough away to focus on it - said it all changed for him about 2 months before.
Oh Joy.
A lot of the world is getting older. Anyway, bigger screens make for better photo and movie viewing (and viewing with others). I'm using the 23" Cinema and I dread having to downsize to even a 17"PB's screen.
To sort of sum up the iBooks: they're intended to be Apple's most rugged Macs, hence the 'bullet-proof' casing and the rubber-mounted drive (which has so far escaped attention). Also note the adherence to the 6-hr. battery spec. Also, concerns about heat dissipation seem to have disregarded the fact that heat rises, too, and that's what the metallic inside surfaces are for. I just hope that keyboard is spill-resistant in keeping with the overall ruggedness.
The fact that no one has come out to say that they've tried fitting an iBook with a 1GB RAM-chip sort of proves Apple's point that those looking for max specs would likely be in the PB crowd. The iBook user just wants a minimum fuss machine to go. However, the odd user who wants to fit a 1GB RAM-chip may well be pleasantly surprised (although, understandably, Apple wants to market all iBook BTO options as entry-level).
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: suggestion
Someone else will have to shoot you; I do not have a gun.
However, the Pentium-M does not benefit much from Pentium III or Pentium 4 optimizations.
Anyway, most modern apps are optimized more for the Pentium 4 these days and not so much for the Pentium III.
Although the latest Intel compilers do provide some code optimization for the Pentium-M processors, AFAIK, so far there have not been any major commercial apps published in past 6 months that take advantage of the optimizations that those compilers now provide.
Someone else will have to shoot you; I do not have a gun.
However, the Pentium-M does not benefit much from Pentium III or Pentium 4 optimizations.
Anyway, most modern apps are optimized more for the Pentium 4 these days and not so much for the Pentium III.
Although the latest Intel compilers do provide some code optimization for the Pentium-M processors, AFAIK, so far there have not been any major commercial apps published in past 6 months that take advantage of the optimizations that those compilers now provide.
I don't have any real reason to doubt you, but that statement is based on what?
(This is a genuine question)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Moto G4 / IBM G3?
Chill, man. I think it was humour (notice the smilie). No need to get on your high horses...
Re: on iBook G4 chip power consumption
Very good spot!! Notice that in that NC line there doesn't seem to be any higher frequency available. Because of the size (12") Apple was restricted in terms of power consumption. I guess that on the 14", air flow is much better and therefore they can afford a more power hungry processor. Maybe.
Check that most excellent post from bankshot on why it might not be possible:
bankshot's gem.
I really think I'm gonna keep his post in my pocket for some time, just in case I need it again (which I most certainly will)...
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oh, and speaking about guns, i just tried the latest penis enlarging pill from the internet!!
and you know what, it really works and if i could post digital photographs on this thread i would but there is a space limit to what i can post here...too bad though
the only problem is that i often step on my member in public because it's so long and i have considered suing for personal hardship and pain and suffering
oh, and speaking about guns, i just tried the latest penis enlarging pill from the internet!!
and you know what, it really works and if i could post digital photographs on this thread i would but there is a space limit to what i can post here...too bad though
the only problem is that i often step on my member in public because it's so long and i have considered suing for personal hardship and pain and suffering
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he he...it's just plain erroneous like the penis related spam mail that clogs the servers
i can go on and on about processors being that i am working on my phd as a computer engineer, but that is boring drivel and while most people here understand the basics of processors, the fine points are always never understood
but very few people know about the basics concerning their own penis and that is why those spam ads work and make money...while it is possible to increase the speed of processors, it is impossible to lengthen your penis with an herbal supplement
and creams that lengthen penises? wouldn't that also increase the size of the hand that implements the cream...people would have bulgy pants and one hand very noticeably larger than the other...by about 33 percent or more
he he...it's just plain erroneous like the penis related spam mail that clogs the servers
i can go on and on about processors being that i am working on my phd as a computer engineer, but that is boring drivel and while most people here understand the basics of processors, the fine points are always never understood
but very few people know about the basics concerning their own penis and that is why those spam ads work and make money...while it is possible to increase the speed of processors, it is impossible to lengthen your penis with an herbal supplement
and creams that lengthen penises? wouldn't that also increase the size of the hand that implements the cream...people would have bulgy pants and one hand very noticeably larger than the other...by about 33 percent or more
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: max memory?
Hmm, let's bring out that old C64 Spy vs. Spy game...
Should we organize a spyhunt on macrumors.com? And how?Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Steve Jobs did note at WWDC (I think it was) that they do read the rumor sites
Hmm, let's bring out that old C64 Spy vs. Spy game...
Re: Re: 14" has more reason to live
Anyway, why can't Apple just do what damn near every other laptop maker does, and give you a choice of 100dpi and 125dpi screen resolutions?
-Richard
Hmm. So by that logic, if you're doing basic word processing, you should prefer a 300dpi plotter to a 1200dpi standard size high-quality printer? Same thing...
Have you heard about HDTV? Have you ever tried watching standard NTSC on a bigscreen without a line doubler, or watching a DVD without progressive scan on a large screen TV? Its truly painful.
So, when looking for desktop screens, did you always go for the .35 dot pitch ones? Its the same issue. Besides, the more controls you want to put on the screen at once, the higher resolution you want them to be. Think about it - if you have a fixed number of controls and display space, and a fixed amount of screen real estate (in area), wouldn't you rather have crisp controls than blocky ones? Especially with apps like Photoshop, where you have full control over the (physical) size of your work, a higher dpi will give you a crisper picture.
Anyway, why can't Apple just do what damn near every other laptop maker does, and give you a choice of 100dpi and 125dpi screen resolutions?
-Richard
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-Richard
In some apps, that's true - and if its not adjustable, you have a choice to make. In any app that uses one or more areas for "expandable, zoomable" real estate (including just about any document processing app, almost (but not) everything with a large client area that has a scrollbar though, you are often better going for the higher-dpi, crisper option for easier vision.
-Richard
The 750 VX may have been announced, but the assumption that it has AltiVec is pure speculation.
Re: I never cared about the 14" iBook
As for the dual-monitor hack, I've read about it, and there is a risk of ruining your iBook if done wrong. It probably would go fine, but I'll stick with mirroring if I even use an external monitor (unlikely). [/B][/QUOTE]
YES PLEASE ANY BODY KNOWS HOW TO DO THE DUAL-MONITOR HACK, FOR THE NEW IBOOKS ???
As for the dual-monitor hack, I've read about it, and there is a risk of ruining your iBook if done wrong. It probably would go fine, but I'll stick with mirroring if I even use an external monitor (unlikely). [/B][/QUOTE]
YES PLEASE ANY BODY KNOWS HOW TO DO THE DUAL-MONITOR HACK, FOR THE NEW IBOOKS ???
So what about the new iBook heat and fan issues?
Could some of the users that got the new iBook's post some comments about the heat issues and the fans, all the usual things?
Is it the 12"Pb in a iBook casing?
Does it have the 12" Pb heat issues?
If it is the 12" Pb in a iBook case maybe since its not a ALU body it wont heat up as much?
I want to get an iBook for my girlfriend.
she has been waiting for long while now patiently for the iBooks to go G4!
tia
Could some of the users that got the new iBook's post some comments about the heat issues and the fans, all the usual things?
Is it the 12"Pb in a iBook casing?
Does it have the 12" Pb heat issues?
If it is the 12" Pb in a iBook case maybe since its not a ALU body it wont heat up as much?
I want to get an iBook for my girlfriend.
she has been waiting for long while now patiently for the iBooks to go G4!
tia
This is a Motorola G4.
End of story.
This is not an hypothetical IBM 750 + Altivec. Enough of that rubbish!!!
It's a Motorola processor (as with every other G4 so far).
And before anyone even starts flaming, check this out.
iBook G4 Developper Note.
edit: oh btw, it also says that there is only one RAM expansion slot, which can contain up to 512MB, for a grand total of 640MB...
End of story.
This is not an hypothetical IBM 750 + Altivec. Enough of that rubbish!!!
It's a Motorola processor (as with every other G4 so far).
And before anyone even starts flaming, check this out.
iBook G4 Developper Note.
edit: oh btw, it also says that there is only one RAM expansion slot, which can contain up to 512MB, for a grand total of 640MB...
Re: So what about the new iBook heat and fan issues?
But to answer some of your questions, and from reading posts from owners of the 1GHz 12" PB, it doesn't seem to have that hot surface temperature issue that plagued the 867MHz model, at least not in the same proportion.
Now about the Alu vs 'Plastic' case: you have to dissipate the heat (generated by the innards of your computer) one way or the other. A metallic body facilitates heat dissipation, but on the other hand it will prove warmer to the touch. But unless you install massive fans (to the detriment of noise) to circulate air inside the computer, you won't be able to evacuate the heat as well in a 'Platic' shell. That's why the iBooks have had to host very low power requirement CPUs, IMO.
I would be interested to read other people 's first impressions on the new iBook G4 too.
But to answer some of your questions, and from reading posts from owners of the 1GHz 12" PB, it doesn't seem to have that hot surface temperature issue that plagued the 867MHz model, at least not in the same proportion.
Now about the Alu vs 'Plastic' case: you have to dissipate the heat (generated by the innards of your computer) one way or the other. A metallic body facilitates heat dissipation, but on the other hand it will prove warmer to the touch. But unless you install massive fans (to the detriment of noise) to circulate air inside the computer, you won't be able to evacuate the heat as well in a 'Platic' shell. That's why the iBooks have had to host very low power requirement CPUs, IMO.
Just wanted to get some opinions on what to get:
1- 17" PB 1.0-GHz PowerPC G4, 512 MB RAM, 60 GB Hard Drive, DVD-RW/CD-RW Drive - Used for 1 week - $1,850
2- 15.2" PB 1.25-GHz PowerPC G4, 512 MB RAM, 80 GB Hard Drive, DVD-RW/CD-RW Drive - Like new - $1,725
3. 14" new iBook 1-GHz etc.
1- 17" PB 1.0-GHz PowerPC G4, 512 MB RAM, 60 GB Hard Drive, DVD-RW/CD-RW Drive - Used for 1 week - $1,850
2- 15.2" PB 1.25-GHz PowerPC G4, 512 MB RAM, 80 GB Hard Drive, DVD-RW/CD-RW Drive - Like new - $1,725
3. 14" new iBook 1-GHz etc.
NEW IBOOKG4 supports dual display
I wanted to write a new thread but something happened with my account verification.
Well, as the post subject says...... The new IbookG4 supports dual display with the script that was used with the G3 Ibooks!
I put the link so you can read the first impressions of a new user.
Can't wait for the new IbookG4.
Hope this helps.
Please I think it will be really good for the rest of the community if you can write the new thread for me cause I can't. Thanx
Sorry for my english
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/ibook_g4/ibook_g4_review.html#storytop
I wanted to write a new thread but something happened with my account verification.
Well, as the post subject says...... The new IbookG4 supports dual display with the script that was used with the G3 Ibooks!
I put the link so you can read the first impressions of a new user.
Can't wait for the new IbookG4.
Hope this helps.
Please I think it will be really good for the rest of the community if you can write the new thread for me cause I can't. Thanx
Sorry for my english
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/ibook_g4/ibook_g4_review.html#storytop
Re: This is a Motorola G4.
Basically the stuff across the top and the lack of the middle speaker.
Since the chipsets are the same as both the Rev A/B PB12, the 1GB DIMM will likely test out as an option.
iBook G4
PowerBook 12 rev B
I told you guys it would be nearly the same as the PB12.
Basically the stuff across the top and the lack of the middle speaker.
Since the chipsets are the same as both the Rev A/B PB12, the 1GB DIMM will likely test out as an option.
iBook G4
PowerBook 12 rev B