joeshell383
macrumors 6502a
Uh, you must not use a network with other computers very frequently. All PCs show up with the BSOD icon, whereas Macs show up with an ACD icon.
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Uh, you must not use a network with other computers very frequently. All PCs show up with the BSOD icon, whereas Macs show up with an ACD icon.
joeshell383
macrumors 6502a
They're not "adds" They're "ads".
He didn't write "adds.", he wrote "adds".
BenRoethig
macrumors 68030
I agree. Look Leopard was late and is still kinda buggy especially in the install process. I never liked these arrogant little ads in the first place and I like them even less when the PC users have something they can counter with.
BenRoethig
macrumors 68030
I've used every version of OSX including the beta. The last time I saw the kinds of bugs Leopard has appear in an initial release was 10.0. It has nothing to do with the number of people upgrading. It has to do with Apple getting behind because of shifting everyone to the iPhone and then rushing to not have to delay Leopard again. They should have bit the bullet and released it at MWSF.
Because it was the changes to the operating system that caused these programs not to work. Apple really should have worked with adobe to get patches out upon Leopard's release. It's really not in Apple's best interests to piss off the adobe professionals.
AdeFowler
macrumors 68020
My thoughts exactly.
Actually in my tech net subscription there is already a locked beta for Vista 2.0 i'm guessing they want to push it out before 2009
OKay that bsod was caused by 3rd party software microsoft's bsod's just happen when you plug in new hardware, exit a game, hit ctrl+alt+del, and/or because you own a dell. lolz
Enough with the Mac / PC commercials, already. I, for one, grew tired of them long ago. I seriously doubt these commercials will win new converts from the Windows side.
I concur with those who wish to see a commercial showing what a Mac can really do.
Let's start with iLife.
Perhaps show the story of a family returning from vacation. The race is on. Mom picks up her MacBook and sits on the front porch, using her wireless connection from the Airport Extreme, while uploading pics from her camera into iPhoto. Dad hooks the camcorder up to the Mac Pro in the home office, to edit clips in iMovie. Meanwhile, the kids use the family iMac to play with GarageBand while using iChat to video chat with grandma, who grows impatient waiting for pictures.
Meanwhile, mom updates her iWeb blog with photos, while dad puts his movies on the Apple TV in the living room. To be obnoxious, he uses the video as a background as he joins the iChat session.
I concur with those who wish to see a commercial showing what a Mac can really do.
Let's start with iLife.
Perhaps show the story of a family returning from vacation. The race is on. Mom picks up her MacBook and sits on the front porch, using her wireless connection from the Airport Extreme, while uploading pics from her camera into iPhoto. Dad hooks the camcorder up to the Mac Pro in the home office, to edit clips in iMovie. Meanwhile, the kids use the family iMac to play with GarageBand while using iChat to video chat with grandma, who grows impatient waiting for pictures.
Meanwhile, mom updates her iWeb blog with photos, while dad puts his movies on the Apple TV in the living room. To be obnoxious, he uses the video as a background as he joins the iChat session.
Every other product on the planet compares itself to it's competitor but Mac isn't supposed to? Maybe they refer to the other products as "the competition" sometimes, but you always get the gist.
Anyway, both PC and Mac are perfectly capable machines that are light years ahead of the needs of most users. Generally, people that have used both extensively prefer Mac. But that's a tough sell. And why is it that they like Mac better? Is it the time machine eye candy? No, it's the ease of use of Mac, or the difficulties in Windows. Pointing out others problems is the quickest way to infer that you don't have problems. Without claiming you don't have problems. And if Microsoft makes a rebuttal ad, they actually look bad, because Apple is seen as the underdog. Who needs to respond to the underdog unless he has a point or is a potential threat? It works out for Apple either way. Press is press for them.
Personally I think the beauty of the Mac is the integration. The reason it works so well is because Apple makes the OS and the hardware AND most of the software like iLife, FCP, and Aperture as well as iWork. But imho it's a very lucky situation. Apple is very much "into" aesthetics and usability. I could go the other way. A company, perhaps MS, could care less about those things and you'd be using a machine that the integration works together beautifully, but the OS, software and hardware might be ugly and hard to use. If Apple were to really harp the idea that they make the hardware and software then I think it would be a turn off as they would sound a little "big brother-ish."
Fluffymuff
macrumors member
That was all staged. There was no Nick Haley. Brilliant idea. Hatched at a Chiat/Day cocktail party. And you bought it. Sucker!!!
Fluffymuff
macrumors member
BTW, I dig those new white (instead of the more ostentatious black) apple logos on the iMacs at the end of the ads. That's how I thought it should have been in the first place.
I predict a riot.
My ad:
Mac zealot: I love leopard soooooo much!
Vista guard: Mac zealot making glorious remarks, allow or deny?
PC zealot: deny! dammit!!!
Vista: please deny as administrator!
OK?
PC zealot and Mac zealot start a fight and later realized that they do different things: PC zealot makes spreadsheets and play games while Mac zealot creates videos and podcasts.
And they live happily thereafter...
My ad:
Mac zealot: I love leopard soooooo much!
Vista guard: Mac zealot making glorious remarks, allow or deny?
PC zealot: deny! dammit!!!
Vista: please deny as administrator!
OK?
PC zealot and Mac zealot start a fight and later realized that they do different things: PC zealot makes spreadsheets and play games while Mac zealot creates videos and podcasts.
And they live happily thereafter...
weslobombs
macrumors newbie
WTF are you talking about?
Apple is the Third PC shipper in the US. I'm sure they make some type of list for worldwide.
plenty of people in here spouting **** they don't really know about, "offering up opinions like kittens, given them away" - isaac brock
Apple is very much still the underdog, however.
and IMHO, the other mac vs. pc ads were very funny and clever, but THESE new ones are TERRIBLE!!!
the dialogue is so bad! it looks like someone took the script for it and punched in a bunch of extra lines at the end of each one like "vista sucks (enter leopard plug here)"
its very cheap and very obvious. very dissapointing. doesn't even utilize John Hodgmans Funny Juice.
wisen up apple. time to hit them with the commercial that will show them why leopard rocks (and it DOES).
it will work much better this time, i gaurantee you.
BettyBad
macrumors newbie
suck this
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/26/b...59&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
Business / Media & Advertising
Students Ad Gets a Remake, and Makes the Big Time
By STUART ELLIOTT
Published: October 26, 2007
In a trend known as consumer-generated content, an 18-year-old student and Apple devotee was hired to make a television commercial for Apples new iPod Touch.
I was sitting on the bus and I got this e-mail on my phone, Mr. Haley, a native of Warwick, England, said in an interview yesterday from the University of Leeds, where he is a fresher, or first-year student.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/26/b...59&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
Business / Media & Advertising
Students Ad Gets a Remake, and Makes the Big Time
By STUART ELLIOTT
Published: October 26, 2007
In a trend known as consumer-generated content, an 18-year-old student and Apple devotee was hired to make a television commercial for Apples new iPod Touch.
I was sitting on the bus and I got this e-mail on my phone, Mr. Haley, a native of Warwick, England, said in an interview yesterday from the University of Leeds, where he is a fresher, or first-year student.
notjustjay
macrumors 603
Yeah, I didn't actually like that one, though, because PC and Mac are clearly not bitter enemies... they don't loathe each other. At best PC has an "I'm all business" arrogance about him and at other times he's got an inferiority complex. But deep down, they're friends, and they both know it.
Jetson
macrumors 6502a
When will our culture get past the use of blatantly racist phrases such as this?
Using the phrase implies agreement that there must be something wrong with being "black".
ruckus
macrumors regular
I'm sure this has already been said though, but I'm getting tired of the pop shots at vista. I'd rather these be good commercials of leopard standing on its own.
I'm far from a fan of vista, but this is like a lousy politician that just attacks the opponent rather than deals with issues. Its getting hard to take seriously.
How about a commercial actually showing the OS? Showing how easy it is to do stuff with? Showing compatibility, the most feared part of the switch?
I'm far from a fan of vista, but this is like a lousy politician that just attacks the opponent rather than deals with issues. Its getting hard to take seriously.
How about a commercial actually showing the OS? Showing how easy it is to do stuff with? Showing compatibility, the most feared part of the switch?
dont be such a politically correct plonker Jetson
the phrase is "pot calling the kettle black" and it refers to the blackening caused by the fire to the metal of the container where both are sitting on the same fire ie there is no difference as they are both charred by the fire
the phrase is "pot calling the kettle black" and it refers to the blackening caused by the fire to the metal of the container where both are sitting on the same fire ie there is no difference as they are both charred by the fire
weslobombs
macrumors newbie
will everyone please stop with this wasted, innacurate explanation?
FACE IT! Macs still do EVERYTHING better than PCs. Yes, even spreadsheets and games, even if they have to be running windows while they play them!
iWork is so much better than office, its ignorant to say anything else. its just too bad that our corporate infrastructures are built on microsoft's crappy software.
there is no happily ever after. Windows is just a ******** piece of software by virtue and principal. You can't be "a windows person", that means you are just a narrow minded **** who somehow is able to point out the typically illogical workflows and tasks of windows as their familiar proccesses, therefore making them "better" despite that obviously not being true and despite the fact that the same tasks are most likely much simpler in OS X.
i hate that logic so much. Being used to the way windows works is NOT an excuse to not want a mac.
that's like saying I'm used to having my rights trampled on by Bush so i'll just vote for him again.
and for those who say they will be loyal to windows just because they supposedly have "more control over there computer" and can "customize the interface" (again, both discredited! ie Terminal, Shapeshifter), that is not a valid way of telling other people that a PC is a better choice. Normal people want the computer/software company to keep that end solid for them in the background, neatly sealed under the hood so it doesn't get in the way. Sometimes messing with these micro-settings and nerd controls is mandatory to get something to work right in Windows, and coupled with the endless search for drivers, working on a PC makes me want to instantaneously PUKE. psuedo-features like that only matter to PC dorks like you- the Windows Loyalist! not to anyone that actually has real-world responsibilities and accomplishments other than upholding their legacy as an MMORPG character in an imaginary online universe.
PC/Microsoft loyalists. They really are a special breed of *******.
Long Live Mac.
I've used every version of OS X since the beta, generally upgrading immediately. I am also been bitten amazingly hard by .y releases in the past. Again, this is all anecdotal: many people seem to have no evidence of these bugs of which you speak, some do. How many cannot accurately be determined here.
This is also the most intricate and complex of their releases since 10.0. It has had the longest dev cycle, and has the most changes. It is not surprising that it has a higher raw number of bugs than previous releases.
Do you realize how horribly bad of a business decision it would have been to wait until MW? As someone else put it, people here seem to watch a bunch of commercials and declare themselves experts in marketing: Waiting the extra few months would have been a PR disaster in comparison (we'll have to wait to see if this hold's to be true, but it certainly seems so from the reviews thusfar).
As it is, the only place that I am even hearing a substantially negative opinion complete with cries for blood is... here. I see the odd negative review (mostly extremely positive with a handful of caveats like Siracusa's review, a few recommend waiting for 10.5.1, but in the aggregate positive).
It is up to Adobe to keep their software updated, and if you depend on those apps it is up to you to ensure that they work before upgrading your operating system. I agree, it would be ideal if Apple upgrading the OS didn't cause bugs to appear in other pieces of software, however Adobe's software is huge, massively complex, ancient, and still uses carbon.
As you say, it also caters to professional users. If you depend on the software for your livelihood you should be waiting to hear how it performs, not upgrading immediately every time there is a new OS release.
Kwill
macrumors 68000
Hmm. Considering there are a good number of people who want to go back to Tiger... sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
I was sort of thinking the same thing. I am surprised Apple went there. Leopard lacks Classic, it has Adobe Acrobat incompatibilities and we still await some professional printer drivers that wont likely be available until early next year. My copy of Leopard is yet to be installed. Tiger will be around on some machines for years to come.
Antares
macrumors 68000
Well, "the MTV generation" was either last generation or two generations ago. This is now the YouTube generation.
I like these ads..but also agree that it's time to change things up. The "Think Different" campaign ran quite a bit longer, though, didn't it?