New iPad Pro Models May Be Prone to Bending

[KevinN206]

Hey I got a question guys....

If I bought a Cadillac Escalade ESV or a Mercedes-Benz G65, both of which are the strongest, most durable SUVs in the world market... then I go and hit a freeway divider, should I blame the manufacturers for making cars that are so easy to "bend"?

It's kinda funny you said that. Driving a car into an unmovable wall is the same as putting your iPad into your backpack. BTW putting any tablet into a backpack has been existing since the beginning of tablets especially when with the iPad. Durability of a product shouldn't regress with time but they do and often intentional by design. This is the case with the more recent iPad Pro becoming thinner and thinner while also doing almost NOTHING to improve their strength.

I said funny because cars are tested and rated by independent crash safety standards. When you buy a car, you know exactly its safety ratings relative to other cars.

 

[Macintoshrumors]

They all have been prone to bending. Stop being irresponsible with your devices. At this point it seems like someone is trying trying to find anything to paint Apple in a negative light and start a “gate” controversy.

 

[JP913]

ITS **MORE** FRAGILE than all other iPads ever made. Hello? Are you reading or are you just in denial?

As someone who’s owned multiple iPads, including a 1st gen 12.9 and now the 3rd gen 12.9, I’m being completely honest when I say it feels as sturdy, or, alternatively, as fragile as the others.

Dude. It’s NOT solid metal and bulletproof glass! What do you expect, for them to be made out of Adamantium?

To put it another way, I’m not afraid of holding my iPad and it melting like a bomb pop in the middle of July.

 

[Macintoshrumors]

After using Apple products for almost 30 years....I am done.

I am tired of paying $3k-4k for a middling laptop, I am done dealing with phones (and now tablets) that pursue thinness over function, I am done supporting a company that doesn't even exert the effort to keep their "pro" products up to spec, and I am so over them purposely making everything non user-replaceable/upgradable while charging prohibitively expensive prices for upgrade options...

They made the iPad Pro so damn thin that the camera lens protrudes pretty far out, and they couldn't even put an audio jack on it. This is the end result, an expensive toy that bends like a piece of cardboard. What's more, his scratch tests on the display and camera lens reveal that Apple isn't even using materials of a high enough quality to be commensurate with the price.

See yaaaaa, dont think it will hurt apples feelings if ya left.

 

[mi7chy]

It’s kind of awesome that you assume enthusiastic Apple fans must be employees or bots, because that’s more likely than, say, the reality of the situation which is...people on this thread are just enthusiastic Apple fans.

As mentioned in the other post, even the most devoted Sears Craftman fanboys aren't mindless to lowering of build quality and durability. So, it makes sense that only employees or bots would defend it.

 

[JP913]

As mentioned in the other post, even the most devoted Sears Craftman fanboys aren't mindless to lowering of build quality and durability. So, it makes sense that only employees or bots would defend it.

Then I guess I’m either a robot (in which case, I’m done paying taxes!) or I’m an Apple employee (in which case, they owe me a salary!)

 

[Unimpossible]

As someone who’s owned multiple iPads, including a 1st gen 12.9 and now the 3rd gen 12.9, I’m being completely honest when I say it feels as sturdy, or, alternatively, as fragile as the others.

Dude. It’s NOT solid metal and bulletproof glass! What do you expect, for them to be made out of Adamantium?

To put it another way, I’m not afraid of holding my iPad and it melting like a bomb pop in the middle of July.

Good one. Feels as sturdy to you, yet is shows that it’s not the case.

 

[JP913]

Good one. Feels as sturdy to you, yet is shows that it’s not the case.

I can bend my finger back and break it, too.

I’m so confused as to what the actual issues here are. Have any of you actually held one of the new iPP’s in your hands yet, or are you just blindly believing videos that show unrealistic “real world” situations?

 

[Perene]

 

[KevinN206]

They all have been prone to bending. Stop being irresponsible with your devices. At this point it seems like someone is trying trying to find anything to paint Apple in a negative light and start a “gate” controversy.

Of course they all bend. It's a matter if they bend at 1 pound, 5 pounds, 10 pounds, etc... of force. This is exactly like how Apple knew the iPhone 6 Plus was 7.2 times more likely to bend than the iPhone 5s that resulted in bendgate and touch disease. Apple never admitted it was a design issue BUT they later added back underfill to the chip that previously didn't have one and then they REINFORCED the exact weak point in the iPhone 6s Plus for bendgate.

 

[macfacts]

Why in the hell would I put 30+ pounds of weight on ANYTHING electronic?

To prove it is strong. Look up Microsoft Surface skateboard. Someone glued wheels and stood on a Surface. Nothing broke.

 

[Nuvi]

They all have been prone to bending. Stop being irresponsible with your devices. At this point it seems like someone is trying trying to find anything to paint Apple in a negative light and start a “gate” controversy.

First of all, not all iPad models are as prone to bending as the new one. I have had three iPads and all of them have worked perfectly. Also, according to the tests the old iPads have better structural integrity than the new iPad. There is no “trying to find anything negative or creating gate controversy”. I just want to buy quality product but if the new iPad bends like a dry cracker then it’s not what I want. I truly hate that because if the new iPad was as robust as the old ones then I would buy the new 12.9” iPad Pro.

 

[JP913]

Why in the hell would I put 30+ pounds of weight on ANYTHING electronic?

To prove it is strong.

 

[bwillwall]

Tbh, being able to snap an iPad in half with your bare hands is pretty shocking.

I disagree that that's shocking, I think you could do that with most tablets. That being said, it looked way too easy for him to do that.

 

[XW61982]

After using Apple products for almost 30 years....I am done.

I am tired of paying $3k-4k for a middling laptop, I am done dealing with phones (and now tablets) that pursue thinness over function, I am done supporting a company that doesn't even exert the effort to keep their "pro" products up to spec, and I am so over them purposely making everything non user-replaceable/upgradable while charging prohibitively expensive prices for upgrade options...

They made the iPad Pro so damn thin that the camera lens protrudes pretty far out, and they couldn't even put an audio jack on it. This is the end result, an expensive toy that bends like a piece of cardboard. What's more, his scratch tests on the display and camera lens reveal that Apple isn't even using materials of a high enough quality to be commensurate with the price.

Well, for a company to become 1 trillion dollars strong, they otta do it some way. You just explained one of the ways they got there! LOL

 

[chanerz]

Bend gate

 

[XW61982]

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[Meandmunch]

Seriously, what kind of pressure or abuse is it supposed to take? It's meant to be handheld, comfortable to hold, has a glass interface on one side. Half the people here act like you should be able to pound nails with it. I DO NOT GET IT.

I love mine, feels and runs amazingly. Now that camera bump...

 

[Bacillus]

Look everyone. If you TRY to bend an iPad. It’s going to bend. Just like any other tablet that size and thickness. If you take care of it and maybe put it in a folio case, it won’t bend. Problem solved.

It is just the knåckebrod sound & force that is perplexing.
Call it a knåckePad Pro

 

[KevinN206]

Who is blaming the users?
Do you find it a problem being cautious with fragile things?
Even if apple uses stronger alloys, then it will still bent. Physics anyone?
Yes, I have read the start of article about the iPad being bent after carrying it in a rucksack, but, again, it is easier to blame the company.
I see the “not my fault, it is somebody else’s fault” all the time with people. And we all do it, not to look stupid or irresponsible.
And as I stated before, I feel with the people who accidentally damaged it, but that is why you take precautions.

As for the cars, the front crash of my neighbours’ Volvo from 1997 and Renault 2014, where the Renault ended up looking like a pizza, is enough of evidence to me. But, of course it depends on many things, so I will not argue about cars.

The original iPad was released in April 2010 and was built like a tank by being thick and heavy. In the past eight years, Apple went from screen size 9.7" to 11", weight 1.5 lbs to 1.0 lbs, and thickness 13 mm 5.6 mm.

All of these changes reduced the strength of the iPad and yet they haven't done much to compensate for it. Why is that? Is this $1 trillion dollar company with $237 billion cash on-hand is so incompetent that they can't improve mechanical strength? Why can't they apply the same electronic A12X prowess to mechanical improvements?

Modern cars are designed to crumble like a pancake in a frontal crash. Obviously they have to crumble the right way so that's why we have independent testing agencies to rate each car for safety. To protect the occupants, cars are designed to crumble around the occupants and also increase the time of deceleration. You could build a car that so rigid that it doesn't deform during a crash but the quick deceleration from 60 mph to 0 mph in 1 second is about -2.74 g might be enough to kill all of the occupants. That's a lot of g for an average human body.

Astronauts experience a max of about 3 g during a rocket launch. And these are highly trained people with high-tech safety restraints and g-suit to protect them. Imagine now the car is designed to crumble correctly and decelerate within 2 or 3 seconds instead, then the g-force is now just -1.37 g and -0.91 g, respectively. The car will look like a pizza but the passengers survived.

Just because the Volvo looks good afterward doesn't mean that the passengers survived. More than likely, they're killed by internal bleeding and internal blunt-force trauma due to sudden deceleration. The brain and internal organs basically got smashed.

 

[Bacillus]

The original iPad was released in April 2010 and was built like a tank by being thick and heavy. In the past eight years, Apple went from screen size 9.7" to 11", weight 1.5 lbs to 1.0 lbs, and thickness 13 mm 5.6 mm.

All of these changes reduced the strength of the iPad and yet they haven't done much to compensate for it. Why is that? Is this $1 trillion dollar company with $237 billion cash on-hand is so incompetent that they can't improve mechanical strength? Why can't they apply the same electronic A12X prowess to mechanical improvements?

Modern cars are designed to crumble like a pancake in a frontal crash. Obviously they have to crumble the right way so that's why we have independent testing agencies to rate each car for safety. To protect the occupants, cars are designed to crumble around the occupants and also increase the time of deceleration. You could build a car that so rigid that it doesn't deform during a crash but the quick deceleration from 60 mph to 0 mph in 1 second is about -2.74 g might be enough to kill all of the occupants. That's a lot of g for an average human body. Astronauts experience a max of about 3 g during a rocket launch. And these are highly trained people with high-tech safety restraints and g-suit to protect them. Imagine now the car is designed to crumble correctly and decelerate within 2 or 3 seconds instead, then the g-force is now just -1.37 g and -0.91 g, respectively. The car will look like a pizza but the passengers survived.

Just because the Volvo looks good afterward doesn't mean that the passengers survived. More than likely, they're killed by internal bleeding and internal blunt-force trauma due to sudden deceleration. The brain and internal organs basically got smashed.

Go study Volvo safety data & stats versus others

 

[groovyd]

no doubt... hopefully this forces their hand at making the next one out of pure titanium

 

[KevinN206]

Go study Volvo safety data & stats versus others

Point out what I said is wrong and provide me links of Volvo safety data and stats versus others.

 

[nvmls]

aight.

 

[seeforyourself]

Now I guess the $129 Applecare+ with $50 deductible for accidental damage is a necessity.