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Glass breaks. Thin metal bends. It's amazing that people are outraged.

These review videos are dumb. Unless you plan on folding your iPad in half or trying to draw on the back of it with a new boxcutter, 95% of the user base isn't going to encounter ANY of these kinds of issues.

I could break my TV in half if I wanted to, but that doesn't mean it's just gonna magically bend on it's own. I could put a dent in my car with my bare hands, but that doesn't mean it's made cheaply.

You literally have to be TRYING to do these things to the iPad to get this result.

Is it a good idea to put a thin piece of glass and metal in a crammed backpack? Probably not.

Should you sit on a thin piece of glass and metal? Probably not.

There's some here who think the iPad Pro is gonna melt and wilt like a Milky Way bar in the hands of a 3 year old in the middle of Disney World in 98 degree August heat.

Treat your devices with some level of care and respect, and you aren't going to have problems.

Drag your iPad behind your car going 80mph down I-75, yeah, it's probably gonna bend and break.

No, these videos are not dumb and educate the consumer about the quality of the product. Scratching the screen, metal, and camera lens is a hardness test. It's done to simply inform the consumer whether the materials used in the construction of the device are the materials advertised by apple and not a cheap substitute, like we already have seen with the sapphire lens.

The issue with the bending isn't that the device bends under pressure because, obviously, if you bend the majority of devices it should be unsurprising to find that they bend. It's how little pressure needs to be exerted in order to bend the device. The lower the pressure threshold to warp the device, the greater the likelihood that people will observe small bending effects from everyday wear and tear over time.

Should you throw your device haphazardly into a bag? Probably not. Will you throw your device into a bag with a case? Very likely. It's possible that even with a case, the device could experience some bending over time. If you travel or commute to work, are you really going to keep that iPad out of a bag at all times? Do we need a separate baby seat dongle to strap the device into a car seat so that you don't have to put it into a bag? Will you be carrying your iPad at all times, even if you walk to work? Obviously not. These devices are meant to be used, not coddled. And if I have to pay $1000 for it? Yeah, I'd like to know how easily it bends and what it's made of.
 
I measured myself with the Smart Cover + the Khomo rear case and the weight from the LTE IPP 10.5 which is 477 g (1.05 lb) increases to 678 g or 1.49 lb with them. That means both covers protecting this iPAD will make it 42% heavier. Only the 1st iPADs without any cover had that same weight.

The thing is, even with both covers I don't consider this tablet inconvenient to hold in my hands, of course due to the current thickness. The question is: how much weight is acceptable if the goal is to protect the device so it can't bend that easily? For years now iPAD sales are declining, will everyone accept a next iPAD if turns out to be even heavier?

And considering how expensive these devices are, wouldn't be more logical for Apple to already sell them with both covers? At least that way perhaps it would be less likely for these things to happen.
 
There is definitely something very wrong at Apple. Just found out that the new Mac mini can’t handle the faster processors because of overheating. In other words: you’ll get the same performance and maybe even better performance with an i3 inside than with the i5 or i7.

So why even make it a choice?

Apple isn’t able to make good computers any more:

And even the iMac pro can’t handle the tasks:

I’m really wondering about what’s going on with Apple. It has fallen of a cliff these last 8 years. It makes me angry and sad.
 
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When you bend things they bend. When you scratch things they scratch.
So we shouldn't put our ipads on our backpacks? We shouldn't take them out of the house huh? Just... put them on our Apple pedestals and never touch them. That's their intention, what they're for, right? :rolleyes:
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It's a $1000 piece of tech, treat it like one.

It bends if you really really roid rage on it, surprise, surprise.
How is putting it in a backpack "roid raging" on it? wuuut?
 
So we shouldn't put our ipads on our backpacks? We shouldn't take them out of the house huh? Just... put them on our Apple pedestals and never touch them. That's their intention, what they're for, right? :rolleyes:
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How is putting it in a backpack "roid raging" on it? wuuut?

I can't with these people. Maybe the iPad is supposed to be only on a desk at home. :D
 
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So we shouldn't put our ipads on our backpacks? We shouldn't take them out of the house huh? Just... put them on our Apple pedestals and never touch them. That's their intention, what they're for, right? :rolleyes:
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How is putting it in a backpack "roid raging" on it? wuuut?
You can do whatever you want with your iPad. If the things you choose to do with it are based on common sense, it will be just fine. If the things you choose to do with it are stupid, it will break.
 
You can do whatever you want with your iPad. If the things you choose to do with it are based on common sense, it will be just fine. If the things you choose to do with it are stupid, it will break.
I know dude, but it's a portable device. It's meant to be carried around. And if you can't carry it around, then what's the purpose? As someone else said... I mean, in that case, get an iMac... or MacBook.

I guess you COULD make the argument that for profesional designers/artists, they would buy the bigger iPad Pro and ONLY keep it in the house/studio/office. In that case I'd see your point. But the vast majority of iPad owners move theirs around, I'd imagine. I've carried my old iPad 2 everywhere on my backpack for YEARS and have had no issues. (common sense you mention I'd agree, for example, would be not dropping the backpack on the floor from more than like 5cm) Backpacks have slots designed for iPad/laptop storage too, you know.
 
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no doubt... hopefully this forces their hand at making the next one out of pure titanium ;)

I know you’re joking but titanium isn’t even necessary. They just need to make the aluminum a few micrometers thicker and make sure there aren’t large holes/openings in the structure causing weak points.

All of these companies making these devices (Apple, Samsung, Sony, Microsoft, etc.) spend billions on research & development. Apple knows exactly how many micrometers thick the metal is and (In this case) they didn’t make it thicker because it’s less profitable. In this case they made it too thin and/or didn’t add any inner structural stabilizing.
 
Then I guess I’m either a robot (in which case, I’m done paying taxes!) or I’m an Apple employee (in which case, they owe me a salary!)

I can't tell with certainty that you are not a robot or an Apple employee. But I am really sure that you are not an engineer.

Because the common sense -you talked about it a lot in various postings - of a member of said profession, would probably mandate the usage of some reinforcing structural elements, like for example some lightweight titanium bars (It's a 1000$ device after all) to prevent accidental bending. Especially when we are talking about slab made of aluminum and thin glas.

And some high quality sapphire glas on exposed optical camera elements won't hurt either.
 
What is the fixation within engineers and designers to keep going thinner?

The new iPhone has a protruding camera lens which nobody would care if Apple designed the case another 2mm thicker to contain it. They could have a fractionally larger battery then.

They think the general userbase cares about thickness.

Top tip guys .... we dont!
 
I know dude, but it's a portable device. It's meant to be carried around. And if you can't carry it around, then what's the purpose? As someone else said... I mean, in that case, get an iMac... or MacBook.

I guess you COULD make the argument that for profesional designers/artists, they would buy the bigger iPad Pro and ONLY keep it in the house/studio/office. In that case I'd see your point. But the vast majority of iPad owners move theirs around, I'd imagine. I've carried my old iPad 2 everywhere on my backpack for YEARS and have had no issues. (common sense you mention I'd agree, for example, would be not dropping the backpack on the floor from more than like 5cm) Backpacks have slots designed for iPad/laptop storage too, you know.
Move it around all you want. I take mine everywhere. 1st and 2nd gen were just as bendable. I never bent one because I’m careful with my stuff.
 
I guess you COULD make the argument that for profesional designers/artists, they would buy the bigger iPad Pro and ONLY keep it in the house/studio/office. In that case I'd see your point. But the vast majority of iPad owners move theirs around, I'd imagine. I've carried my old iPad 2 everywhere on my backpack for YEARS and have had no issues. (common sense you mention I'd agree, for example, would be not dropping the backpack on the floor from more than like 5cm) Backpacks have slots designed for iPad/laptop storage too, you know.

Actually the point of having a 12.9” iPad for many designers and artists is its portability. If you don’t need the mobility then Wacom Cintiq attached to a workstation is much more powerful solution. In many cases artists use iPads on the go and transfer their work to their workstation so they can finish it in more powerful ecosystem with the flexibility that it offers. Naturally there are many who only draw with their iPads but even then not having the portability associated with iPad would major loss.
 
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You can do whatever you want with your iPad. If the things you choose to do with it are based on common sense, it will be just fine. If the things you choose to do with it are stupid, it will break.
What is "common sense"? Is putting it in a backpack alone? Is putting it in a backpack with hardcover books? Does it matter if the books are smaller than the iPad and packed in the backpack closer to the body?

Is the "common sense" applicable to the 10.5 Pro the same for these new Pros?
 
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What is the fixation within engineers and designers to keep going thinner?

The new iPhone has a protruding camera lens which nobody would care if Apple designed the case another 2mm thicker to contain it. They could have a fractionally larger battery then.

They think the general userbase cares about thickness.

Top tip guys .... we dont!

We? Speaking for everyone? Or do you have a small mouse in your pocket?

I care about thickness. And weight. And I totally support Apple's quest towards making devices thinner and lighter; especially for any device that's hand-held or portable, like a laptop.

OTOH, it seems I'm one of the few here that takes responsibility for my actions that involve doing something stupid to a piece of expensive tech.

It's sad the world is going to an always blame someone else when doing something stupid rather than take responsibility, culture.
 
The iPad in the MacRumors hands on was bent out of the box. This isn't much of an issue though, all iPads have bended like that, this just just requires a little bit less amount of force.

No and no. Having iPad bent right out box is huge issue. I have had three iPads and none of them were bent in normal use. This one seems to bend so easily that one needs to baby it like a crazy or in worst case scenario it’s already “factory bent”, which would mean Apple has some serious design issues.
 
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No and no. Having iPad bent right out box is huge issue. I have had three iPads and none of them were bent in normal use. This one seems to bend so easily that one needs to baby it like a crazy or in worst case scenario it’s already “factory bent”, which would mean Apple has some serious design issues.

Yes, it shouldn't be bent out of the box. Mine isn't, I haven't babied it, just used it like I have always used it, no signs of it bending yet.
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Mine was bent right out of the box.

I've seen a few like that, sucks. Hopefully Apple replaced it for you.
 
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