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I think you're right in a lot of ways, but wrong in two specific ways. It does come down to preference. For those that want a smaller form factor I hope Apple keeps the 4" phone (I think they will). Multiple sizes makes sense because we all have differing opinions on what's best for us.

Where I think you're wrong.
"Others are willing to sacrifice some functionality and the one handed ease of use in order to have only one device. "
There is no sacrifice in functionality when using a larger phone. One handed use is no easier than two handed use. Are there instances where one haded use is more convenient? Yes. But there are just as many instances where two handed use is more convenient as well. As you admit yourself, 4.7" does not preclude one handed use.

"I am an advocate of sticking the phone app in the mini and addressing those that want the phablet."

I know it's not your word, but I think phablet is stupid (IMO). Regardless of that, 5.5" phone is a long, long, long way away from an 8" tablet. A phone app in the mini in no way addresses someone's desire for a larger phone. It's an extreme edge case argument meant to exaggerate someone elses displeasure for a larger phone.

I hope we both can agree Apple is in a pretty good position. They can continue to offer the 4" factor while possibly gaining new customers with a larger phone. Win/Win. Apple has gotten some of my tablet money (iPad - also have Nexus 7) and some of my laptop money (MBA). With a larger phone, they could be a choice for my phone money. Without a larger phone, the status quo will remain.

I think we are in general agreement especially about Apple and their position. And yes there are use cases where one handed is more convenient -- note I did not say faster or productive, but convenient. I walk to work or take the bus and I like so many others are typing with one hand while holding something in the other hand, like a purse or a coffee or whatever. Here if I had a huge phone/phablet I could not do much other than stare. Siri is also not practical in a crowded bus IMHO, although I will admit to seeing certain people screaming away on the phone. Bottom line, for me and for many people being able to use the device one-handed is a real requirement.

As far as the phone app, I really see no issue with sticking it in any cellular enabled device regardless of size. Again, it cost them almost nothing to do it and they might get a few extra sales out of it. Of course, it is possible that their real strategy is to continue to move people towards facetime and facetime audio that could eventually circumvent cellular companies altogether. But that would require them to open it up to other vendors which was the original promise. My point here is why not let people talk from any device regardless of size. I use facetime to talk to my friends on the other side of the pond with no issue from all of my devices (I am fortunate that 90% of my friends are Apple users). Until Facetime is ubiquitous across all platforms, however, why not give them the phone app on all devices.
 
Not that I would have a problem with that at all, but no, that's not what I'm saying. The size of a laptop isn't that much of an issue since almost everyone carries them in a bag already.
If that's the case, then why everyone isn't carrying around their 17" laptop?
Hint: for the same reason that not everyone needs an oversized phone.
 
A 4.7 inch screen really shouldn't make the phone much bigger, if Apple is just smart (which they use to be :cool:).

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The problem with that is you assume a iPhone 5 design and just chop some off the top off making the phones proportions wrong.
 
absolutely not. He didn't say 'expected screen sizes will increase every year'. He was talking about how things in general change year by year. Laptop screen sizes went up, and are now coming back down... CHANGE. Not increase.
He was implying that bigger phones are better for everyone and in all usage scenarios. He wasn't saying anything about change.
 
As someone who prefers having their iPhone "naked", I welcome this new design. It appears that it would be more "drop friendly".

Although, I hope the sides aren't similar in texture to the 5c, which appears to be made of butter-plastic :)
 
Definitely looks samsung'ish.

Very interested in seeing the real thing instead of artist interpretation. I am up for an upgrade and want a larger phone. I hope it is a good design. Better than these renderings at least.
 
Glass back? Where are you getting that from? The renders show the concept with and without a case on it.

Read the article once more, the first line - just a comment on that. Eventually click on the "showing off" link.

That is the worst phone design I have ever seen. A phone that looks like a phone with a case on - and then people put a case on that. Case-ception phone.

The only way to go is a seamless, unibody design.
 
I think we are in general agreement especially about Apple and their position. And yes there are use cases where one handed is more convenient -- note I did not say faster or productive, but convenient. I walk to work or take the bus and I like so many others are typing with one hand while holding something in the other hand, like a purse or a coffee or whatever. Here if I had a huge phone/phablet I could not do much other than stare. Siri is also not practical in a crowded bus IMHO, although I will admit to seeing certain people screaming away on the phone. Bottom line, for me and for many people being able to use the device one-handed is a real requirement.

As far as the phone app, I really see no issue with sticking it in any cellular enabled device regardless of size. Again, it cost them almost nothing to do it and they might get a few extra sales out of it. Of course, it is possible that their real strategy is to continue to move people towards facetime and facetime audio that could eventually circumvent cellular companies altogether. But that would require them to open it up to other vendors which was the original promise. My point here is why not let people talk from any device regardless of size. I use facetime to talk to my friends on the other side of the pond with no issue from all of my devices (I am fortunate that 90% of my friends are Apple users). Until Facetime is ubiquitous across all platforms, however, why not give them the phone app on all devices.

The only thing I'd add into this discussion is that I think the device you get is probably informed by what other devices you have as well. Someone who has a small tablet may not feel the need for a larger phone. While someone who's ONLY mobile device is a phone will make the calculated decision to have a larger screen vs carrying 2 devices.

Apple broadening the iPhone product range makes good sense. It's the only product category in which they don't offer multiple screen sizes.
 
Renderings of anything is not a rumor. It is not a news. It's nothing but a drawing, a sketch. :rolleyes:



Rumors about a phone is different from renderings of rumored phones.
"News" of renderings of supposed rumors about a rumored phone is not news.



Most defenitely, it seems.



Arn didn't publish this "article".
Also, what do you mean by that? Sure you mean something. Possibly. :rolleyes:

so ignore the article...
 
Apple finally got their cues from this oldie but goodie:
 

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So some website asked a graphic designer to mock up what an iPhone 6 might look like. I'm not sure how that qualifies as a rumor. Why discuss a mockup of something that most likely isn't legit?

because SOME people are interested. just because you aren't doesn't mean they shouldn't post it. not everything on this site will appeal to you...
 
Everyone only talks about the size of the screen, but it's really the size of the casing, and having the biggest screen you can fit in it. I was pissed when the iPhone 5 came out, making the casing taller. But now I love it. My 4 I have for work is just goofy and "stubby" with that "short" screen. What would I prefer above anything else?? A 4" widescreen put in the size of the iPhone 4, with a thinner casing. Or maybe a 4.3" in the 5 casing. Either way, STOP MAKING THE DEVICE LARGER. I'm not sure what the "perfect" size screen is... I'd like to say 4" but I could see maybe a little bit larger... maybe 4.3". 4.7" is definitely on the larger side of things and just not needed for a phone - which primary point is to be MOBILE. If you need something larger - there are laptops and tablets for that.

Of course different people want different things. Some want a "phablet" to use as both a phone and tablet. Seems like lots want it... then so be it... make that... but don't ruin things for the people who want a PHONE. Regardless, Apple needs to work on the size of these bezels. Theirs are among the worst and it's just so much wasted space (besides internals). Innovate a bit. Stop just enlarging and then thinning.
 
A 5.5" iPhone will really make me consider ditching my iPad Air. Too close in functionality at that point to justify having both. Only really makes sense in that scenario if you use your iPad for productivity or art creation. I'm more of a web surfer and YouTube user on my iPad now. Use my iMac for real stuff.
 
I will not buy a 4.7'' phone. I am very sad about it but the only choice for me would be to find the 3.5'' Android phone once my 4s dies. Phone greater than 3.5'' is simply non ergonomic!

Said someone who's never spent more than five minutes with an iPhone 5/5s/5c... Trust me, you adapt to the slight difference very quickly.
 
A 4.7 inch screen really shouldn't make the phone much bigger, if Apple is just smart (which they use to be :cool:).

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Behind those bezels there are electronics .... Maybe they need space, especially for TouchId components. I don't think that photo could be feasible ....

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Very true. The middle version even looks better, more up to date. I'd feel it really was a shame if Apple stuck to the same bezel proportions as their phones go big. That would make them unnecessarily big - and probably put many customers off who otherwise wouldn't have had a problem with the size increase.

Here's another example of how differently design can be handled in regards to bezel size. These two phones have the exact same screen size!

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I've yet to see one in the wild, but I'm start thinking the M8 definitely is too tall for its screen ....
 
I will buy the 4.7 as soon as it comes out, then will reserve judgement on the 5.5 inch as I personally think that is a little too big.
 
Congratulations, now you're the one whining and complaining. Steve had a logical reason behind saying 3.5" was the perfect size...and your argument is "bigger just makes sense"? You really make an impressive case. :roll eyes:

Big phones are goofy looking, clumsy and the opposite of practical. I've always snickered at those ridiculous Android phablets and I'm certainly disappointed Apple seems to be going that route. Will I buy the 6 anyway? Yep, I'll be there day one for the smaller of the two...and you're right, I'm sure I'll learn to love it. However, from a practicality standpoint, 3.5" was perfect.

Well I need a compact phone for sure, and I'm worried the 4.7" could be too large, but I think that 3.5" today really is too small ...
I'm fine with the 4" display of the 5/5s and I was hoping for a 4.3-4.5" maximum iPhone 6

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Because 4.7 inch phones aren't much bigger than the iPhone 5/5S.

Nexus 4 with 4.7 inch screen
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Well .... Nexus 4 isn't exactly my idea of a well designed smartphone ...

When I speak about a well designed phone I like to show the Moto X


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These fully rounded sides don't make sense to me. They look dated somehow. I think its much more likely that they either stick to the flat edges with chamfering of the 5S, or go for the iPad Air edges with a rounded back angle and chamfering on the front. The latter would make at least the 5.5" model much nicer to hold.

Me neither. It looks like an iP4/S with a bumper on it.
 
Nice!

with a 4.7" Screen that will make me go back to iPhone since moving over to Android after the iPhone 4S.

Quick question though. any idea where i can find that wallpaper in the 1st post?

:)
 
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