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This is probably what excites me most about the iPhone, the internet capability.

I've browsed the "web" on my friends' Sidekicks and Blackberries and it's a joke.

I'll have to try the iPhone in person first, but it looks like Apple finally got the internet right when it comes to phones.
 
yup, definitely a flash movie. if you look at the keynote address again, when steve goes on the NYT, there's a "blue lego box" with a question mark on it, just like safari on the desktop if your missing a plug in. and now its a flash video on the commercial. this really is, the real safari on a cell phone. :D

Just to show everyone this point here's a picture from the Macworld keynote address:
 
As I recall from the MacWorld keynote, zooming in and out in the iPhone Safari was done using that two-finger stretching/squeezing/pinching motion. That seems to have been phased out in favor of a simpler tap interface, where I guess they try to intelligently guess what you want to zoom into based on the content and frames on the page.

In a wider sense, it really seems like what was shown at MacWorld was very preliminary, as much is changing even now. For example, the camera functions were not even demoed, and that module was probably not even working at the time. So, that gives me some hope that the iPhone still has some pleasant surprises. If Safari now has Flash, that's a really huge deal alone.
 
Unfortunately, I have to wait until 12/27/08 before I can switch to the iPhone (either that, or Verizon has to do a change to their contract, such as a text messaging rate increase, in order to break the contract without a fee).

Actually, it could be a blessing in disguise...a couple of revisions will be done, there could be more models of the iPhone, and I can save up $600!
 
As I recall from the MacWorld keynote, zooming in and out in the iPhone Safari was done using that two-finger stretching/squeezing/pinching motion. That seems to have been phased out in favor of a simpler tap interface, where I guess they try to intelligently guess what you want to zoom into based on the content and frames on the page.

Actually, Jobs said that the pinch could be used, but that they also added double-tap because it could be quicker.
 
Inkwell on iPhone?

For all of those people complaining about the virtual key board has anyone thought that Apple will allow hand writing recognition in addition to the keyboard input???

After all the Newton had graffiti and OSX has has a version of it called Inkwell.
 
I'm glad to see more commercials and Apple doing them up right this time. The iPhone won't be here soon enough!
 
For all of those people complaining about the virtual key board has anyone thought that Apple will allow hand writing recognition in addition to the keyboard input???

After all the Newton had graffiti and OSX has has a version of it called Inkwell.

Mmm..but it would probably be dreadful without a stylus...
 
Question

Would you be able to use the iPod and Wifi Internet functions WITHOUT signing a contract with AT&T? I am mostly interested in the Wifi and iPod capabilities of the iPhone and seeing that a release date has not even been mentioned for Canada I am thinking to get it from the States.
 
ehh nothing new, still not something spectacularly different. I'm not that impressed with the iphone until I can experience how easy it is to text on it and type
 
Would you be able to use the iPod and Wifi Internet functions WITHOUT signing a contract with AT&T? I am mostly interested in the Wifi and iPod capabilities of the iPhone and seeing that a release date has not even been mentioned for Canada I am thinking to get it from the States.
No, but hopefully a WiFiPod will come out like that :)
 
"full internet" better mean Flash

I wonder what the internal politics are that Apple can't just say the iPhone will have flash at time of announcement.
 
"The Steve" has put way to much work and advertising in this. It would kill Apple's rep as well. He would never let it come to market if it would only be a failure. He learned from "Lisa".

the LISA was designed to be a failure, so he could work and design the mac without any commercial look over and thus reshape the computer with out people looking at apple's ever move like we do today lol
 
Would you be able to use the iPod and Wifi Internet functions WITHOUT signing a contract with AT&T? I am mostly interested in the Wifi and iPod capabilities of the iPhone and seeing that a release date has not even been mentioned for Canada I am thinking to get it from the States.

Well, everything so far says (emphasis mine) "Use requires minimum new 2 year activation plan." That implies that if you want to use the telephone functions, you have to sign up for a 2 year AT&T contract. But it also implies that you can buy it, and just not use the phone functions, with no contract.

And while I can't find it at the moment, I know that in the MacWorld keynote in January, it was implied that a 2 year agreement was needed to even purchase it, which would mean you would have to pay an early termination fee to get out of the contract.
 
Why

Why do I need one? I don't know. But doesn't it just make you want one anyway? :)
 
For all of those people complaining about the virtual key board has anyone thought that Apple will allow hand writing recognition in addition to the keyboard input???

After all the Newton had graffiti and OSX has has a version of it called Inkwell.

No, the Newton did not have Graffiti. That was the name of the over-simplified text recognition used by Palms. (The one that forced you to write individual letters one at a time in an oversimplified manner.) The Newton had full word-level handwriting recognition.

And as someone else mentioned, handwriting recognition would suck with no stylus input.
 
No, the Newton did not have Graffiti. That was the name of the over-simplified text recognition used by Palms. (The one that forced you to write individual letters one at a time in an oversimplified manner.) The Newton had full word-level handwriting recognition.

And as someone else mentioned, handwriting recognition would suck with no stylus input.

you right Graffiti was on Palm PDAs.

Hand writing recognition on the Newton was originally called 'Calligrapher' and later named 'Rosetta' which eventually turned into 'Inkwell' in OSX.

Still I don't think it would be very difficult to use your finger to write with on the iPhone if your in landscape mode.
 
..but...

Nokia have had a similar internet browser out for a long time and it works on almost all of their S60/3rd phones. It's even based on the same 'engine' as Apple's Safari. Of course, most of those phones don't have such a wide screen - the e90 does though, and most screens can be 'rotated' to give a 'wider' experience.

The browser part isn't (particularly) new or interesting, IMO. It's the way you interact with it that is new and interesting. All that sliding and rotating looks very pretty.
 
Weird aspect ratio?

In the newest ad, when then iPhone is tipped on its side to show a landscape browser, it looks 'compressed' from the top... and longer and definitely more than 16:9/10

Anyone else notice this? It looks stupid when you compare it to the portrait version of the phone in the guy's hand.

my 2cents
 
If purchasing the iPhone "requires a minimum 2 year contract," does that mean that there are options for MORE than 2 years? And if so, that might mean subsidation?!?!

yeah?yeah?yeah?
 
In the newest ad, when then iPhone is tipped on its side to show a landscape browser, it looks 'compressed' from the top... and longer and definitely more than 16:9/10
The iPhone screen is 320x480 in portrait mode = 1:0.67 aspect ratio and 480x320 in landscape mode = 1:1.5 aspect ratio. 16:9 is 1:1.78.
 
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