I thought Apple was still collecting monthly revenue on the iPhone. If that is true, then Apple would much prefer you bought the iPhone. The trouble with comparing the iPhone and iPod Touch is that they don't compete for most of their customers. If you're in the market for a smartphone, you're likely after the omnipresent data connection; certainly not a camera. To this end, feel free to add everything but the phone/EDGE/3G connection to the Touch and you won't lose my smartphone subscription
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New iPhone and iPod Touch Details? iPod to Get Camera?
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I thought Apple was still collecting monthly revenue on the iPhone. If that is true, then Apple would much prefer you bought the iPhone. The trouble with comparing the iPhone and iPod Touch is that they don't compete for most of their customers. If you're in the market for a smartphone, you're likely after the omnipresent data connection; certainly not a camera. To this end, feel free to add everything but the phone/EDGE/3G connection to the Touch and you won't lose my smartphone subscription
Woah! I haven't heard many people wanting a 64GB internal storage on their iPhone. Sure, it would be great, but what would you do with all that storage?Woah.
Also, good idea for the carbon fiber backing. It would be much more scratch resistant. I wonder what that would do to the cost of production though. Also, what would that mean on the back end for the consumer?
My MP3 library is 32GB. My Lossless library is even larger (ALAC), at 72GB and steadily increasing. I'd like to fit most of it on my iPhone, and have room for a couple gigs of photos/videos and of course plenty of apps.
Apple should add the camera. Just look at the app store and see how the talented creative programmers have used the camera in novel ways (pseudo lightmeters, distance rangefinding, optical data transfer/barcode reading, color analysis, etc).
Many of the apps I've bought for my iPod has support for a camera. There are also dozens of apps that I'm not buying because the iPod has no camera. I think the cost of adding the camera is easily offset by camera-savvy app purchases.
I'm sure it will definately make programmers happy.
Many of the apps I've bought for my iPod has support for a camera. There are also dozens of apps that I'm not buying because the iPod has no camera. I think the cost of adding the camera is easily offset by camera-savvy app purchases.
I'm sure it will definately make programmers happy.
Aside from the monthly cost factor, I have never bought into the idea of carrying a Touch and a phone. Why go around with two gizmos when one will do? The iPhone, in my view, is the most significant piece of technology to grace consumers. Nothing else can "touch" it.
Well my perspective is just that you shouldn't care if people think your iPhone is an iPod touch. I doubt someone, even Joe Something, will ask you if that iPod touch look alike you are holding to your ear is in fact an iPod.
There has been no harm in making the two units very similar so far. And at first most people thought one would drive sales away from the other, but the numbers have clearly shown that again, we were wrong and both have sold unbelievably well.
Make them too similiar and you could drive people away from buying both gadgets. If I were financially inclined, I wouldnt mind having both and carrying both. I could have my Touch for my music (duh) and keep my memory on my phone for processing power. The processing power decreases as you add more and more things to your iPhone.
Not true. While much of it is full albums, I do listen to at least 70-75% of what is in my library. It's great to have a disc-perfect lossless digital collection of my CDs, and it would be nice not to have to pick and choose what makes the cut onto my iPod/iPhone and what doesn't.
Do realize, that is why Apple sells the iPod classic...to fit all of your music (like me in this case)...it's just that I prefer solid state players and the other capabilities of the iPhone/iPod touch are fantastic and have me hooked.
I personally think the further device consolidation is brilliant and I find myself wondering why they didn't add a camera to the Touch before now as well. It only adds a greater appeal to the device that I don't think detracts from iPhone sales enough to be substantial. If you're going to get an iPhone, you're going to get an iPhone. The same is true for the Touch. I have 2 iPhones in my house and I still want a Touch. Gotta love their marketing.
Death of the click wheel.... i have a dead one on my 30gb Video - guess it's getting me ready? LOL!
Why two??
Because 2 gizmos is possibly loads cheaper.
Because you might have crappy AT&T Service where you live and would still need another phone (friend got an iPhone thru her job - but it doesn't work at her house, so she needs to keep her Verizon phone).
Because you don't want to lock into a contract for $70 a month for 2 years.
Because you'd have to have a boatload of minutes because everyone you call is currently "free" on Verizon with mobile to mobile.
And another other of reasons.....
I'd prefer one device - but give me a choice of carriers and better pricing (i have no data plan on my current smart phone).
I don't see anyone ever taking that position. All I see happening is, oh well I'll just get an iPod touch because its like an iPhone. But they will still be selling iPod touch units so that wouldn't really matter. In a perfect world sure I'd have all sorts of nice gadgets, but in this world, I just have an iPod touch. When I get some money and a new contract, I'll look into an iPhone and some other iPod. I don't need 1 of each.
Not that I like carrying around an iPod touch with my Verizon clamshell phone...but one nice thing is that when I inevitably drain the iPod touch's battery while playing a game or surfing the web, I still have a working cell phone. I'd have to start being more battery-conscious with only one device.
How many hours do you have? I only have 463 megs of music, but I have 6.6 hours. 10-20 hours would be enough, do you listen to music a lot on your Touch?
Well theres a first time for everything. I'd rather have my iPhone for CALLING. I dont want it dying because I played a few games all day and when I get in a car accident on my way home I cant make a call because my battery died half way through my day. I dont care if i play games on my Touch and it dies. I dont need it in emergencies.
Yeah, I listen to music off it every day, I'd say on average 1-2 hours per day. Plus another 3-4 hours per day off my MacBook at home.
iTunes Lossless: 2485 songs, 7.6 days, 72.75 GB
iTunes MP3 (mostly LAME V0): 4551 songs, 13.2 days, 31.77 GB
Maybe you should just realize that language is a typical side step in many threads and stay on topic yourself, newbie.
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As far as the camera/iPod concept, this is only a good idea IMO if the camera isn't simply a camera phone quality camera. otherwise it's really just a sad iPhone that can't make calls. So unless they are talking about an Apple designed, iPod styled camera with a decent MP rating and CMOS, I'm not really interested. It would be easier to duct tape a shuffle to a pocket Nikon.
But do you really need 2 weeks worth of music on your iPod? (Is it 20 days all up, if it is then woah, nearly 3 weeks). You listen to 1-2 hours per day, so let's say 1 and a half. Around 10-11 hours a week, that's half a day a week. Putting just 2-3 days worth of music would be enough to listen for around 2-3 weeks without listening to songs twice, just a suggestion.
Right...it's more of a convenience thing. I don't enjoy having to pick and choose stuff, because who knows what I will suddenly feel like listening to at some point later in the day or week or whatever.
Moreover, I do some professional audio work and often need to find house music that "fits" the event I'm running...so I need to have a really diverse collection at my fingertips, ready to go.
I dont think they are making single 64gig chips.. I thought the 32gigs were JUST coming out? Or am I wrong?
Apple originally introduced the Touch to be an ipod but I think they have found that it makes more sense to turn it into a phoneless iphone. For some people, ATT or monthly payments or whatever are a dealbreaker on the iphone. Apple still wants their business in the App Store, so it makes sense to sell an iPod that does everything the iPhone does, save for phone calls.
If Apple can solve the shaky camera problem of a handheld webcam, then I think mobile video chats could be pretty cool.
I know this may sound crazy to you but not everyone is a heavy phone user to justify the cost that comes with the iPhone. For me I keep a pre-paid phone in the car in case of emergencies but other then that I do not use a phone at all.
People need to stop seeing the Touch as an iPhone without the phone function because I do believe that it is going to be pushed into another direction and have capabilities the iPhone doesn't
Correct. 32GB is the sweet spot right now, so I'd expect the next gen iPhone to be offered with a base of 16GB and top out at 32GB
Probably so they can have access to each & every song they have. Some people may want to listen to a specific song but hen remember "Wait! I don't have that song on my iPod/iPhone. Darn!"