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New MacBook Pro and 13-Inch 'MacBook' Coming Next Week, iMac and Display Not Ready Yet

Great, so they're showcasing secondary computers now and primary computers in a few months. My 2011 iMac is about ready for a replacement with working Bluetooth audio and more powerful graphics to more reliably drive my two Thunderbolt Displays.
 
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What is the real consensus on the new MB keyboard ? Personally, I was almost unable to type with them when I tried them (on multiple occasions) at the apple store.

I can't believe apple is taking the risk of putting such a controversial keyboard on its pro line (?!?!?!?!?)

most of the people who were with me at the apple store couldn't really see themselves use this keyboard...

what's ...... up...... apple.......
 
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Bryan Bowler said:
Wouldn't surprise me with the decisions Apple has been making the last few years. Remember how Apple used to support the creative community, especially pros? Not any more. Out of nowhere, Apple abandoned Aperture and left its creative community high and dry.

Apple's priorities as a company has definitely changed in the last few years and they are different now.
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Agreed. And now they make all their money with iPhones that is their (only) focus. Having worked on Macs for over 20 years I may be switching soon, driven by the lack of a proper keyboard - in my opinion the MacBook one is awful, and as the buyer it is my opinion that counts. i do not need a machine thin enough to slash my wrists with - the current MacBook Pro is thin enough, and with the ports I need. If I do switch to Windows I will not be too unhappy to dump the iPhone too. There are better smartphones out there, and with headphone sockets! The people claiming they can do all their work on an iPad are not really working, they are just sending e-mails... The merging of the iOS and MacOS universes is getting too restrictive, and for professionals using the mainstay of Office, the Windows versions are still superior.
And for the Macfan boys who will mock, I was doing scientific research and writing papers on a MacPlus with a 20 MB Rodime hard drive (that served a whole laboratory) before most of them were out of diapers.
 
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So much for Skylake being pointless. (Directed at half the users here.)
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fishbert said:
What about the Mac mini?
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Oh please no. They'll put a Core 2 Duo in it next.
Seriously though, I'm wondering if they're planning to abandon it. I hope they actually upgrade it.
 
Geordiekeith said:
Agreed. And now they make all their money with iPhones that is their (only) focus. Having worked on Macs for over 20 years I may be switching soon, driven by the lack of a proper keyboard - in my opinion the MacBook one is awful, and as the buyer it is my opinion that counts. i do not need a machine thin enough to slash my wrists with - the current MacBook Pro is thin enough, and with the ports I need. If I do switch to Windows I will not be too unhappy to dump the iPhone too. There are better smartphones out there, and with headphone sockets! The people claiming they can do all their work on an iPad are not really working, they are just sending e-mails... The merging of the iOS and MacOS universes is getting too restrictive, and for professionals using the mainstay of Office, the Windows versions are still superior.
And for the Macfan boys who will mock, I was doing scientific research and writing papers on a MacPlus with a 20 MB Rodime hard drive (that served a whole laboratory) before most of them were out of diapers.
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I guess I was exactly in your position last month. I ended up buying a thinkpad x260 and making it a dualboot debian / win10 machine.

I had used macs since I was a toddler and never bought a PC in my life.

Times are changing ! Apple is not at all what it used to be. It's become gimmicky and gadgety. Restrictive, authoritarian.

The new MB keyboard is frankly what made me say : enough is enough.

Makes you wonder exactly what kind of focus groups apple is basing itself on nowadays...

Anyway the downfall of this company is really entertaining. It's just a very curious thing, how can a company with so much cash create its own demise...
 
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sudo1996 said:
So much for Skylake being pointless. (Directed at half the users here.)
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Skylake still has near identical IPC to Haskell but if they're going to release a redesigned Mac then pretty obviously they're going to put whatever is the latest appropriate chip in it. This is pretty obvious and should hardly need to be said
 
Stella said:
eGPUs was possible with earlier MacBook Pros, but cost a lot of money to do so, and long winded:
https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...setup-guide-benchmarks-egpu-setup-windows-10/

Since TB3 has enough bandwidth out of the box to cope with Ndivia 980s/1080s... it should be cheaper and more realistic?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-external-gpu-dock,31984.html
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The guy who made that tip was using Windows. Ignoring how much of a hack it is, the problem is video drivers in OS X. You can put non-Apple-certified GPUs in your Mac, and it might work if you're lucky, but you'll have to be even luckier for good performance. My GTX 650Ti Boost isn't working well with certain things.
 
How is "hello again" justified by an updated MBP?

That's like whipping out a "just one more thing" at the end of a keynote to show some lame commercial. Ming Chi Wrong better live up to his name.
 
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All the people complaining about "why not wait for Kaby Lake" need to realize that many of us aren't exactly upgrading laptops every year. Hell, the latest 15-in MBP so far is not even on Broadwell, so it's already skipping a generation!

For loads of us, updated processors and better battery life will be a breath of fresh air..
 
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Feenician said:
Skylake still has near identical IPC to Haskell but if they're going to release a redesigned Mac then pretty obviously they're going to put whatever is the latest appropriate chip in it. This is pretty obvious and should hardly need to be said
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Skylake has much faster graphics than Haswell. What's obvious is that they could have updated the rMBP a long time ago with it.
 
Windows is why I'd be using an eGPU anyway, so the drivers would be available.

sudo1996 said:
The guy who made that tip was using Windows. Ignoring how much of a hack it is, the problem is video drivers in OS X. You can put non-Apple-certified GPUs in your Mac, and it might work if you're lucky, but you'll have to be even luckier for good performance. My GTX 650Ti Boost isn't working well with certain things.
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