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Hey guys - remember the Mac Pro? The Airport and Airport Express? The Cinema/Thunderbolt Display? The Mac Mini? The iPod Touch?

What's so different about Apple today relative to 5+ years ago?
Not sure they're computer users..they probably get by like most casual users with an iPad.
I love my iPad but I also love my macs. They've become distracted by all the other gadgets...Squirrel!
 
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Agreed. Make an iMac chassis without a giant bezel below the screen would look sleek. Forget about how thin it is ... I don't stare at my Mac from the side.
Completely edgeless like new TV's, that would be great and a chrome stand
 
i dont get the point of an "Air" anymore. I mean they dropped it from the iPad in favor of "Pro" so imo MacBook and MacBook Pro would be sufficient

I don't get the logic in any of their lines. Too much crossover. It needs to be streamlined and simplified. I wish they would bring the separation back between pro and your average consumer. This is against what made Apple successful (simplicity).
 
Sure, I'd like see that too. There was a lot of hype of this a few years ago and I guess AMD bet the farm on the APU concept (and look at where they are) but it seems like it never amounted to much in mainstream computing. If you're saying it'd have been great if Apple were the ones that made that fly then you'll find me in total agreement with that notion.

Side note: this stupid cartoon meme thing always makes me laugh with respect to Intel and AMD's respective strategies

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Yes, I was thinking thinking (dreaming) of Apple using its resources and control of the whole ecosystem and actually trying to spice things up. Unfortunately, I completely understand this sentiment, that the focus has shifted. Their status of innovative company should mean, they would lead anywhere, where reasonable gains could have been made.

Alternatively, I could live with other scenario: Tim Cook sends his assistant to the basement. She finds blueprints for old Mac Pro 5,1. Sends them to Foxconn. He asks 10 programmers, if they are willing to set up HomeKit style program for component manufacturers (I know... Heresy) that would provide compatibility with current OsX, and be prepared to write off every year equivalent of 15 minutes of iPhone sales in order to invest in future of the platform, that might help with creating new reasons for regular consumers to buy iDevices...
 
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I would love to see a pie chart from Apple showing which show the breakdown Mac sales so that we could see just how popular each of the models is in comparison to each other. I for one am a big Mini fan and hope to see it continue in the line up especially given what some companies are now doing with mini pcs like the latest Nuc.
I think they don't know what to do with it! They hobbled it because it was cutting into the laptops.
They don't understand that they have different users with different needs..some of us already have monitors
and not all of us have the Jing for a Mac Pro.
They could charge a pile of money for a hopped up mac mini and make a pile of money but I don't think
this current crop at apple have any imagination.
 
It's not been 10 years, it changed drastically with the slim line - what else do you want from a 27" flat panel all in one? Change for the sake of change?

The iMac body hasn't changed since 2007, thats about 10 years. (and thats very sad to see the same design used today just slimmer) Sliming the body and removing the aluminum border is not a drastic change. Apple was completely changing their design every 4-5 years with something absolutely amazing. Now all we get is a slimmer case...

From 2003-2007 the iMac made huge advancements with design, apple could have an edgeless computer like todays flat screen tv's and give us a new stand, perhaps chrome? there is so much room for growth.
 

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Yes, I was thinking thinking (dreaming) of Apple using its resources and control of the whole ecosystem and actually trying to spice things up. Unfortunately, I completely understand this sentiment, that the focus has shifted. Their status of innovative company should mean, they would lead anywhere, where reasonable gains could have been made.

Alternatively, I could live with other scenario: Tim Cook sends his assistant to the basement. She finds blueprints for old Mac Pro 5,1. Sends them to Foxconn. He asks 10 programmers, if they are willing to set up HomeKit style program for component manufacturers (I know... Heresy) that would provide compatibility with current OsX, and be prepared to write off every year equivalent of 15 minutes of iPhone sales in order to invest in future of the platform, that might help with creating new reasons for regular consumers to buy iDevices...

It's not unfair to want (or dream) any of that. I can't think of the last time Apple did anything like that though, even pre-iPhone and certainly pre-iPhone being the financial engine of the company. Some neat form-factors, some nice designs, some prescient removals of legacy and some prescient (and some not so prescient) adoptions of newer technologies but nothing that genuinely changed anything with regard to the computer itself.
 
Whats the point of a macbook air if the macbook (12 inch) is already the thinnest? macbook and mbp is enough.

I don't understand this obsession with apple to make things thin. Isn't it more important to have more room in a chassis to give us more technology? For example, would you choose to have 100% more battery life in your iPhone in exchange for it being 2-3 mm more thick? What about more RAM slots in your MBP? How about another hard drive slot to double your hard drive space without spending a premium on high capacity SSD? There should be a better balance.
 
Yes, I was thinking thinking (dreaming) of Apple using its resources and control of the whole ecosystem and actually trying to spice things up. Unfortunately, I completely understand this sentiment, that the focus has shifted. Their status of innovative company should mean, they would lead anywhere, where reasonable gains could have been made.

Alternatively, I could live with other scenario: Tim Cook sends his assistant to the basement. She finds blueprints for old Mac Pro 5,1. Sends them to Foxconn. He asks 10 programmers, if they are willing to set up HomeKit style program for component manufacturers (I know... Heresy) that would provide compatibility with current OsX, and be prepared to write off every year equivalent of 15 minutes of iPhone sales in order to invest in future of the platform, that might help with creating new reasons for regular consumers to buy iDevices...

Are there reasonable gains to be made from the PC market? I don't think so, I don't think Apple does either, not compared to wearables and mobile devices. Hence their focus hasn't really been with the Mac.



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I don't get the logic in any of their lines. Too much crossover. It needs to be streamlined and simplified. I wish they would bring the separation back between pro and your average consumer. This is against what made Apple successful (simplicity).

I agree.. This is anything *but* simplicity.... May be allot less models overall, but still too much cross over..

Now u really must choose feature specific things. since Apple's making u decide. aka... You want usb-c but u don't want the ability to charge megasafe with it.

Dunno about anyone else, but i like my ports separate.
 
spring next year for a new imac? are you ****ing ******** me? i need one now. im not ****ing paying $2000 for a mac that was out in 2015. when it comes to technology one year is a ****ing century. now im gonna end up doing something stupid like buying an alienware
 
Just because these Mac's and the Mac Pro hasan't had a major refresh for a while... Mac mini is still a consumer desktop
 
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Or more likely it's just discontinued.

The 2013 Mac Pro pushed many agencies to PC hardware. I very much doubt there is a viable markert for a new Mac Pro.
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I tend to agree the 2013 Mac Pro pushed many to Windows/Linux, also over the years the iMac has become more high end and for some people, many be photographer, who would have got a Mac Pro years ago now are happy with a 15" MBP and an external screen. Over all Apple seem to be pushing people away from the Mac Pro in all directions. I have sympathy for Pros who actually need a high end Mac with an external screen. I think the honest thing do would just to discontinue the Mac Pro.
 
I tend to agree the 2013 Mac Pro pushed many to Windows/Linux, also over the years the iMac has become more high end and for some people, many be photographer, who would have got a Mac Pro years ago now are happy with a 15" MBP and an external screen. Over all Apple seem to be pushing people away from the Mac Pro in all directions. I have sympathy for Pros who actually need a high end Mac with an external screen. I think the honest thing do would just to discontinue the Mac Pro.

I agree. The Mac Pro is different and is supposed to play in the highest of high end of personal computing /workstation space. If they don't update it with the best available XEONs this year, or at least commit to putting the Kaby XEONs* in it next year, it's time to kill it.

*That and some great workstation GPU's
 
Are there reasonable gains to be made from the PC market? I don't think so, I don't think Apple does either, not compared to wearables and mobile devices. Hence their focus hasn't really been with the Mac.



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Financial? No way! I understand that. But I firmly believe, that there are externalities, that are harder to account for. Issue of this graph is that most of the people, who used to buy desktops never needed that form factor. There was just no alternative. Sadly and it might be issue on my side, I still see so many tasks, that are impossible to do on any other type of machine. I understand the issue and I am willing to pay completely differrent money since the costs cant be shared with other consumers. I am just sad, that it seems easier to push us to PCs...
 
spring next year for a new imac? are you ****ing ******** me? i need one now. im not ****ing paying $2000 for a mac that was out in 2015. when it comes to technology one year is a ****ing century. now im gonna end up doing something stupid like buying an alienware

Imacs received skylake some time ago. Kabylake isn't available for it yet. What do you expect? What changed between then and now? Are new games running way too slow? I have to guess games, given that your alternative is Alienware. Did your current machine fail recently? If it's none of this, what made you hesitate earlier?

I understand the irritation from people who have been waiting for new notebooks, but in your case they released a skylake update a long time ago.
 
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5 years since Thunderbolt display received an update, and it's still not ready. What is happening to this company.
I agree. It is shameful the way that Apple is will to screw around loyal Macbook customers. I bought two thunderbolt backup drives at Apple's implied direction now they jerk around to USB-C and the only peripheral that might have offered a converter is a monitor... that now they're a day late and a dollar short on.
 
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Imacs received skylake some time ago. Kabylake isn't available for it yet. What do you expect? What changed between then and now? Are new games running way too slow? I have to guess games, given that your alternative is Alienware. Did your current machine fail recently? If it's none of this, what made you hesitate earlier?

I understand the irritation from people who have been waiting for new notebooks, but in your case they released a skylake update a long time ago.

The best part about that 27" 5K iMac is that you can get a refurb with quad Skylake i5, 1Tb fusion, 8Gb RAM for $1700. Dell will sell you just a 5K monitor for $1100. I'm not personally interested in buying an iMac but that seems like a pretty good deal to me.
 
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