Maybe one day you will work out what apple
Sells and what Microsoft sells, to understand my comment.
I use both and I base my judgement on my experience. To say one OS is garbage, yeah that made me laugh.
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Maybe one day you will work out what apple
Sells and what Microsoft sells, to understand my comment.
I use both and I base my judgement on my experience. To say one OS is garbage, yeah that made me laugh.
My iMac was purchased August 2010. Going on 6 1/2 years and is just as fast when I first got it. What's wrong with the iMacs that are currently out?
My daily drivers for the last 5 years or so: cMBP 13, MBA 13, rMB.
Switching from the cMBP 13 to the MBA 13 keyboard was noticeable - the MBA has less key travel -but didn't really bother me and after a week or so I was used to it. Many people claim they have the same keyboard. I did not share that same feeling.
Switching from the MBA 13 to rMB was painfully to say the least - but after about 2 months I don't want anything else, period.
I have been using iMac keyboards and rMBP keyboards but never for periods longer than a couple of days. If you know a keyboard won't stick with you for longer periods I guess your mindset is different - it's not your keyboard now and it won't be in the future - you're more forgiven.
That being said I was using a brand new rMBP 15 a while ago - after I already got used to the rMB keyboard. It felt awful. A brand new, fresh smelling, 15 inch retina macbook pro outspec'ed to the max. What is not to like about these babies?
Well, it didn't make any sense. It was the first ever Apple device I hated. Keyboards make a huge difference.
To answer your question; they stack up just fine. They made perfectly sense at the time of release. They were all superior than their ancestors, be it from the Apple family or from competing brands. They always had the best keyboards. Everybody should give the butterfly a fair shot.
I wouldn't call you a revolutionary, I'd call you an idiot for not replacing the wheels with something better. That is exactly what is happening here. USB-C is new, in case you missed it. Apple was a spearhead in getting the specification set.
What a misleading analogy and completely off base. They aren't removing ALL ports from the machine. They are replacing old limited ports with new faster, more versatile ones. Instead of an HDMI port, for example, that gets used every once in a while, there is a USB-C port that has all the functionality of all the old ports combined with a bandwidth and speed potential we all could only have dreamed about a couple of years ago. All the audio, video, data, and power protocols of the old ports in one, and thus multiple instances of each, all taking up less space.
Seems like a more proper analogy would be removing the wheels from your car and replacing them with anti-grav thrusters.
It's always the same with people asking for change, screaming for it even, and then going off on a tantrum when they finally get it and it doesn't exactly match their own diffuse and obscure vision of what that change and progress would look like.
Did you all think that there would be this one port that would allow you to magically plug in all your old stuff with no adapters, dongles or hubs? Seriously? Come on
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I understand perfectly well well what they sell and I note that you don't care to elaborate on the subject. I'm a devoted office 365 user and I really believe that the Office apps are the absolute best apps on my iPad and are right up there on my Mac. Windows 10, however, is a dogs dinner.
It's ANALOG, not analogic.
And your ears are analog as well, should we remove them too?
Agree with you on most of this, but the significant thing about Kaby Lake for the MBr is that it has the TB3 controller built in to the CPU, making TB3 feasible for that machine. That would be a pretty big upgrade for that single port.
So slow, how the heck is it that Apple can not even come to market with a new display? With all that money, have a display team, and new display every 12 months. Heck, not so hard when you already make an iMac?! iMac - Motherboard = Apple Display. They have serious issues, and I'm not just saying that because I know someone inside.
WTF is the deal with metal anyway? I was excited that we could finally game on a mac without rebooting into windows. Try to google games using metal. You can count on your left hand how many use it.
Apple has a huge lead off thanks to Jobs. It will take time for them to run it into the ground.. .but you can see it happening as Apple slowly deviates from what made it great. I hope I'm wrong and they find their way.
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Eleborate on what? Fact that I use both? Or the fact that I feel OS X is rushed out every year to push hardware sales ? Or the fact that BT on my 2013 Mac Pro is still broken in OS X ......
How about we start with the last one , as you bought dogs dinner to the table
The irony for me is that you call office 365 great, when it is in fact been a dogs breakfast in regards to bugs and issues on mac... really it's been a disaster ....
Sorry if u take you point of view of windows 10 with a pinch of salt....
Apple abandoned the professional and the business market. The only thing left is the name "Pro" tacked on to some of the devices. It all started with abandoning the server hardware, then dumbing down or abandoning both the hardware and the software.
Tim is focused on revenues and profits only, which is why Apple is becoming more and more like a gadget manufacturer.
Gone are the days of artists seeing their Macs as an ultimate tool, be it a musician, creative artist, photo professional or film producer.
This is no surprising, considering the differences between Tim and Steve. Steve put the artist at the core and built his ideas and devices around it. Tim is building everything around profit. That's why there is so much emphasis on the IOS devices and very little on anything else.
It is really sad how smartphone, tablet and watch threw computers into the shadows. This is really, really sad. I was almost sure that Apple won't use Kaby Lake. Because, they were never on the cutting edge with the processors. And that is ok, I can understand that. But good God, they have so many old and dated hardware in their offering that it is really embarrassing for company that values quality and top of the line both hardware and software.
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In particular, each Mac containing a ...lake processor has to be waterpoof!
I've been saying that for years, but Google aren't trying either.
Android is great but the Pixel phone? Pretty terrible.
And Chromebooks just aren't competition for full on computers.
I think you've got some rose-tinted glasses on. Steve introduced the iPhone, which singlehandedly shifted the company from that artistic tools company to consumer gadgets. Apple Computer, Inc. switched to Apple, Inc. on Steve's watch. Tim is just continuing Steve's vision for what Apple should be.
You can be doomsday about it if you want, but Apple makes better hardware than they ever have (if we leave out the MP) in part due to their increased ability to design their own custom components. Their profits and economy of scale from the iPhone has in part enabled this. The majority of delays comes down to Intel's sluggish progress.
The pro market is a very tiny slice of their revenue now, but they still have an eye on it. Logic receives regular updates, and IMO better support than it's had in a long time. I'll reserve judgment about the hardware until the event. Hopefully they'll ditch the trashcan Mac Pro and do something we actually want to use.
My two cents...
The difference will be marginal. An hour of extra battery life, maybe 10% faster CPU (and only in optimal circumstances), et cetera. So you'll have to weigh that against the price. If you can get a really, really good deal (meaning not just $150 off, but maybe $250 or more) then sure, go for the 2015 model.
However assuming your kids are in school, you may be able to get educational discount. That, plus the fact that new models will have a higher resale value, will probably make it more interesting to get the new ones. And the new models may come in colors...
As an aside, with kids you may also want to give them a school bag with a specially padded laptop compartment. Speck also sells plastic cases/covers and pretty quickly follows up on the release of new models. A minor bump will then not dent the MacBook but just scratch the case. And with a case, they're much more recognizable.
Check if your home insurance covers laptops outside of the house. Might be worth it to extend that coverage. Much cheaper than the in-store insurance offers.
And put a different sticker on their chargers.
Agreed. Macs were great when they were more focussed on creative professionals as it raised the bar as to what a computer should be able to do. To attract a creative professional they have to have a certain type of style, and be (think) different from mainstream computers. This created a product that not only was great for creative professionals, but also enticed the average consumer to pay more for something better than the average computer.
Tim is more numbers driven which is one of the reasons why Apple is heading in the direction it is. I bet he's more hands off than Steve and really doesn't have the same passion and drive. He is focusing on the mainstream consumer which I think is lowering the bar, and subsequently repelling in the interest of creative professionals who demand the previously high standards of Apple.
[doublepost=1477209828][/doublepost]One crazy theory I had was the absence of mac updates might mean a processor change. The A10 is quite powerful, and Intel has somewhat plateaued. "Hello again" might mean they're switching processors again. Just a crazy theory.
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Hello again is something that is tied to the iMac so I would expect to see a new iMac. But what is the problem?
The problem is no one is buying desktops anymore, its not 1998. All laptops are powerful enough to run everything the common consumer needs and gives the portability option, and those who need power will buy the Mac Pro.
TBH there are people who completely ditched personal computers and just use their phablets.
The problem is no one is buying desktops anymore, its not 1998. All laptops are powerful enough to run everything the common consumer needs and gives the portability option, and those who need power will buy the Mac Pro.
TBH there are people who completely ditched personal computers and just use their phablets.
Isn't that really the inevitable march of progress? And besides, I assume you got good usage out of them by now.
The way I see it, you've got two options. An adapter, of which you might need only one because of daisychaining:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...bt3tbtadap_thunderbolt_3_to_thunderbolt.html#!
The other option would be that you simply sell your old Mac hardware together with the backup drives. Assuming it's pro stuff, there's probably some pro that's starting out, and looking for used hardware.
Not to mention that Kaby has HEVC hardware Encode that Skylake sorely lacks. Have you tried working with HEVC files? Brings my Haswell down to it's knees. HEVC 1080P is horribly slow and 4K is glacial without hardware acceleration.
I can overlook the skylake cpu, but if the dgpu is still a severely outdated/outclassed AMD 28nm 'rehash' I'm either going with a heavily discounted 2015 rMBP model or just going to try my first PC laptop in a decade with the new upcoming Dell XPS 15 with Kaby + 1050/1060 Nvidia GPU.
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This opinion, while still an opinion, is less anecdotal than you might think. Lot's of turnover in the Apple Car team and record high update cycles on many of their products just to reference a few of the many articles posted on this site which would suggest Apple is, at the very least, distracted at the moment. Not sure if you've seen lately, but the macrumors buyer guide lists every mac but one as a "don't buy."
The Apple Car is one possible explanation as to why they are lagging in every other area of their business.
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I see how my wording could be confusing. I don't mean "their" as in the mac team, I mean "their" as in Apple. They are at the very least, distracted, no arguing that fact.
I'm sorry but 5400rpm iMacs , crippled mac minis , the new Mac Pro etc are not better hardware. These examples demonstrate backward moves. Rose tinted glasses is believing apple has improved these products, in my opinion .
Apple has always had hits and misses, nothing has changed under Tim . Though he has put profits first, Steve wanted profit ....but also pushed innovation beyond what a rationale person would consider normal ...it had to be better....hence we got awesome products.