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Removing stuff isn't revolutionary. If I took the wheels off your car, would you call me revolutionary? Creating new stuff is revolutionary.

That would rather depend on whether or not could could still drive your car without the wheels, with a newer, possibly better, alternative.
 
Did you all think that there would be this one port that would allow you to magically plug in all your old stuff with no adapters, dongles or hubs? Seriously? Come on
Yes, YES GOSHDARNIT!

I want a new connector just like the one that the human race got from mother nature. Some sort of all-purpose, size-to-fit connector that only lusts after the transferring of data!
 
A solid 100% switch to usb c is gonna hurt many people. The high end users with thunderbolt 2 might have compatibility issues using an adapter. I hope apple has a solution in the box for old USB and thunderbolt 2 just like the iphone and missing headphone jack.

I really want to update my macbook pro but those two ports are so essential to hardware I use that cannot be changed for quite a while. I can't wait until we all adopt USBc but for now we do need some help transitioning, apple need to be on board with creators. It seems like they are just fighting mac users needs with all the rumours so far.
 
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Apple abandoned the professional and the business market.

Tim is focused on revenues and profits only, which is why Apple is becoming more and more like a gadget manufacturer.

Gone are the days of artists seeing their Macs as an ultimate tool, be it a musician, creative artist, photo professional or film producer.

Are you seriously implying that as we speak no one is using Apple products for creating music, designs, or to edit pictures and movies with? It's a rhetoric question if you didn't realized by now...

Just wait and see, your "point has much more foundation if the news in the not so far future would be that Apple has abandoned the Apple Mac Pro line entirely.

I'm waiting for a new MacPro and my guess is that a new model will come at the beginning of 2017. If Apple would abandon the MacPro line-up the. It I might considder a switch to Microsoft PC. But thatall depends on how powerfull the alternatives will be at that given moment. For example, the current iMac 5K, with everything on it, outperform the latest MacPro onmany fields by now.
 
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Oh boy. If I can be bothered to take to a message board there must really be something wrong. Terribly wrong.

Apple seriously needs to consolidate its product line and cater to professional Mac users again.

For people who want to go super thin and light and are no power users at all there's the iPad or the MacBook...
12".
Get rid of the Air... and replace it with a 14" machine. Like back in the day with the iBooks. 12" + 14" MacBook.

Have a thicker version of it with more of everything as a 14" MacBook Pro. And top it of with a POWERFUL 16" MacBook Pro.
Fu*k thin and light (the current design already is), just throw everything there is into it and do it Apple Style.

Just give us soemthing powerusers actually crave. They don't want a 15" MacBook Air with a Pro sticker on it. They want a real Pro!
-XPS Style bezelless 4k display
-32/64GB Ram
-2TB SSD
-TB3
-USB-C+USB-A
-HDMI 2.0
-MagSafe
-SD Card Reader

Basically take everything that is great about the current Retina MBP... and just make it better in details.


If macOS wasn't still miles ahead of Windows and didn't integrate with all other devices like it does... I'd just get a Dell XPS 15". But who am I kidding. Nice hardware with an okay fit and finish... a horrible trackpad and worst of all Windows... no way!
But let's just wait a couple of years... if innovation goes more and more towards "managed storage" etc. like in Sierra... where as a poweruser life gets harder and harder... and you have to be really careful which options to check... or worse... stuff is on automatically and you have to go looking for it to DEactivate it.

Being out at a client's place just to have the files you need not available... because "sorry... macOS didn't download it from iCloud Drive" is a non-option.

/rant


For the next four days though... let's give Apple the benefit of the doubt a final time... let's see what they cook up (yes. Pun super intended!).
 
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i don't get this whole USB C thing they're pushing on macs yet not on iOS devices. No one has devices that natively use these ports so what good are 4 of them? and taking away the SD card slot is a damn shame for us photographers
I seriously hope that the 4usbc version is not the pro. Knowing apple they'll be super inconsistent and mess everyone around one again with new ports and nothing legacy. My pet peev is standards that last only a few years and if they aren't adopted get dropped. Having lighting in mobile and USBc on mac is just a headfuk.

I will be glad to even the back of mag safe though
 
My iMac was purchased August 2010. Going on 6 1/2 years and is just as fast when I first got it. What's wrong with the iMacs that are currently out?

Probably something with the hard disk I guess. It is slow as hell. It takes 15 minutes just to boot up (and believe me, I'm not exaggerating). I'm not willing to spend money servicing a machine that is over 5 years old because that is just buying a little more time to a machine that has its days counted... So, I've been eagerly waiting for a new iMac for some time now and the prospect to having to wait six or more months more just kills me.

Edit. Sorry, I wrongly thought you were asking what's wrong with *my* iMac.
 
Is it kind of too thin if Apply just introduce new MBP and MBA in a press event?
 
My two cents...

The difference will be marginal. An hour of extra battery life, maybe 10% faster CPU (and only in optimal circumstances), et cetera. So you'll have to weigh that against the price. If you can get a really, really good deal (meaning not just $150 off, but maybe $250 or more) then sure, go for the 2015 model.

However assuming your kids are in school, you may be able to get educational discount. That, plus the fact that new models will have a higher resale value, will probably make it more interesting to get the new ones. And the new models may come in colors...

As an aside, with kids you may also want to give them a school bag with a specially padded laptop compartment. Speck also sells plastic cases/covers and pretty quickly follows up on the release of new models. A minor bump will then not dent the MacBook but just scratch the case. And with a case, they're much more recognizable.

Check if your home insurance covers laptops outside of the house. Might be worth it to extend that coverage. Much cheaper than the in-store insurance offers.

And put a different sticker on their chargers.

All true, but bear in mind the weight and footprint changes that are supposed to come round. The 2012 Retina MBP 15" was an achievement of sorts, clocking in at 2.0KG. It would be quite something if they could get to 1.7KG for the 15" and sub 1.5 for the 13", which would be a main reason for killing the Air.
 
There will never be a new Mac Pro. The Trashcan was not a poor seller because people decided to make do with powerful laptops and iMacs but because it was a steaming pile of turd, leaving people hanging on to aging MacPro towers, making hackintoshes or moving to Windows for high end work.
 
I can overlook the skylake cpu, but if the dgpu is still a severely outdated/outclassed AMD 28nm 'rehash' I'm either going with a heavily discounted 2015 rMBP model or just going to try my first PC laptop in a decade with the new upcoming Dell XPS 15 with Kaby + 1050/1060 Nvidia GPU.
It won't be a 28nm 'rehash', it will be a 14nm AMD Polaris for sure.

BTW, what XPS with Kaby Lake? When is it releasing? Because if it's any time soon, you will be disappointed. High power Kaby Lake CPUs are not coming out until mid next year.
 
Probably something with the hard disk I guess. It is slow as hell. It takes 15 minutes just to boot up (and believe me, I'm not exaggerating).
15 minutes sounds like a defective hard drive, or your Mac is trying to boot from a different, non existing hard drive, or it's looking for some defective hardware component. It's certainly not normal.
 
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The problem is, Intel/Displayport do not support any connector that can drive 5k reasonably, all others are hacky workarounds using 2 cables as soon as this is available, they will be out... i'm not sure what people want.. If apple make a proprietary connector people will moan.... can't win can they.
 
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I think that many professional may have already jumped ship.

In my little world of video and audio editing, everyone uses MacBooks and iMacs. I know only one nMP but a few remaining cMP. So no, people aren't jumping ship in droves, they don't want to mess their hands with windows. A lot of them still use FCP7, amazingly enough.
 
It isn't Intel's fault that they are struggling with the 10nm process.

There is no reason Intel couldn't release 8-core consumer grade parts years ago. .
Except for the thermal envelope, you mean?

macOS's base wouldn't be able to take advantage of 16 virtual cores (assuming hyperthreading) either.
 
The entire Mac lineup should be ready by now!
What have they been doing? Building a car or something??!
 
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Yeah he may say he loves the Mac, and he probably does, but he focuses on figures. And iOS devices sell more, so he wants the focus to be on them.

I disagree. Apple have said for years they believe iPad to be the future of personal computing. Look at the updates with iPad - much faster, thinner, Apple Pencil, improved multitasking, truetone display, etc. All that happened during falling iPad sales and growing Mac sales.

If Tim Cook focused only on figures, iPhone would still come first, but wouldn't Macs get more love, and iPad neglected?

It's difficult to disprove your theory. If Apple focuses on a product which sells a lot, they're chasing numbers. If they focus on a product which isn't selling as well, they're trying to improve sales figures, and still chasing numbers. It's no win!


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Funny because most people on here think the MacBook Pros SHOULD be refreshed very 2-3 months so that you always get the latest technology when you buy them, and yet you see it as being "screwed" because it's "outdated" in 4 months. I believe Apple have taken your stance to go for 15 months between updates to make it both substantial and so people stopped complaining that Apple update everything every few months (which they never did anyway but) and now you have people moaning they don't update enough, whatever they do, people will complain so.

Logic such as yours has no place in this forum! ;)
 
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Sorry, but I kinda doubt that Apple would schedule a full blown media event if all that's coming are just new MacBook Pros and 13" MacBooks and nothing else.

well if you compare it to the last event its not so weird. Im kinda impressed how they managed to talk for more than on e hour about iphone 7 and the apple watch 2. I Bought the iphone 7 and Im still curious what I actually bought that was different from the 6s. Apple is experts of blowing smoke up our as*es.

But the new butterfly keyboard...c'mon apple! I own the Macbook - I understand making this in a gimmicky laptop that has to be ultrathin. But on a pro laptop I don't understand, compromising comfort to thickness....really stupid! Nobody outside Cupertino prefer the Butterfly keyboard! (I never heard one person saying it is better)
 
Except for the thermal envelope, you mean?
That's what Intel's TurboBoost fixes. So what if it has to take a ~20% down clock when operating all 8 cores, it's still going to be much more powerful than a quad. When you're running single threaded apps, it will still overclock itself to run just as fast.

macOS's base wouldn't be able to take advantage of 16 virtual cores (assuming hyperthreading) either.
Of course it could. It obviously has no problems running 24 in the Mac Pro. There are plenty of programs that will use everything you throw at it. Like video encoding.
 
It isn't Intel's fault that they are struggling with the 10nm process.

It is Intel's fault that they STILL push quad-core CPUs as their top-end mobile and top-end consumer desktop products. I'm still using the first quad-core MBP, which was initially released 5.5 years ago. In all that time, the increase in CPU speed has been minimal. There is no reason Intel couldn't release 8-core consumer grade parts years ago. Despite this, it looks like we have to wait until at least 2018 to even get 6 cores with Coffee Lake, let alone 8.
Intel has 6, 8, and 10 core processors. But these are top end enthusiast processors that the general public wouldn't want to pay for. And I don't think Apple cares about these processors as they would make their computers much more expensive. Quite frankly we're lucky they give us 4 core processors as I'm sure they'd rather just give us 2 core and be done with it. I'm sure once the cost of manufacturing these drops to a reasonable rate we will see them. Then again maybe we won't since Apple uses multi core Xenon processors in the Mac Pro line. In other words even if the price comes down enough I don't believe Apple will use these 6, 8, and 10 core processors.
 
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