New MacBook Pros Don't Include Backlit Apple Logo or Power Extension Cable

[Jerion]

I don't quite understand Apple's design priorities any more. It seems like the fun has been slowly disappearing for a while- Sierra and iOS 10 are friendly, and the touch bar is a snazzy addition. But like the snoring sleep light before it, the glowing logo was a great touch, flashy without being blingy. I guess Apple's war on flash continues...

They probably dropped it to make the lid thinner, or perhaps they did it based on how the new screen assembly works best. Oh well.

As for the extension cable, I've got three of the damned things lying around. While the exclusion is less than good in principle, I wouldn't mind not having another one taking up space.

The Late 2016 MacBook Pros do not excite me as products. As examples of state-of-the-art design and engineering they are rather good, but the prices are just too high. If Apple wanted to have a home-run, they would drop the 2015 models (including the 13" MBA) and slash the entire portable line $200-300 across the board. At current prices, they'll probably get plenty of orders. Just not any further ones from me for at least a couple years.

 

[prattmeyer]

who cares -the point -apple is just another convential company with no vision except making money. problem is stupidity reigns in the upper tears(sp). siri still isnt as good as othe voice recognition software.

 

[Ghost31]

What would Carly do to you when you bent over?

Are you sure that it has nothing to do with homosexuality?

"'HP' or 'Apple' screwed you over" is crude language.

"Yup, now bend over, uncle Timmy has another thing he wants to sell..." is a blatant homophobic reference.

No. it's just not. People use the term "getting screwed over" all the time. You some kinda social justice warrior or something? Get out of here with that nonsense

 

[lordofthereef]

So "silly and toy-ish" from Mercedes-Benz as well (http://www.autoblog.com/2013/06/05/mercedes-offering-illuminated-three-pointed-star-logo/)...

I actually first saw one of these in the road a few weeks ago. I thought it cheapened the look, personally. Though I do like thenapple glow logo.
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No. it's just not. People use the term "getting screwed over" all the time. You some kinda social justice warrior or something? Get out of here with that nonsense

In guessing that if cook wasn't homosexual this false connection wouldn't have been made at all. Still it's a stretch to call it a homophobic response.

 

[calzon65]

Come on, it takes courage to poke your users in the eye while creating a less user friendly computing experience.

LOL.

I think Shiller's "courage" comment will continue to haunt him for some time to come.

 

[nordique]

One day Apple might charge you extra for the box. But they'll give you several choices:

• Basic brown box for only $19.99
• MagicBox that's like the current box for only $59.99
• MagicBox Pro that comes in Silver, Space Gray, or Rose Gold for only $99.99
• MagicBox Pro Edition™ that comes gold plated for only $999.99

Lol!!!

Don't forget you might need to buy an adaptor to get the mac out of the box too

That so many MacBook fans have been dismayed by these new products for various reasons is quite telling. I can't recall the last time there was this much of a general "disappointed" consensus with a MacBook product...not even the original MacBook Air had this level of dismayed MacBook customers/potential customers I don't think.
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I don't quite understand Apple's design priorities any more. It seems like the fun has been slowly disappearing for a while- Sierra and iOS 10 are friendly, and the touch bar is a snazzy addition. But like the snoring sleep light before it, the glowing logo was a great touch, flashy without being blingy. I guess Apple's war on flash continues...

They probably dropped it to make the lid thinner, or perhaps they did it based on how the new screen assembly works best. Oh well.

As for the extension cable, I've got three of the damned things lying around. While the exclusion is less than good in principle, I wouldn't mind not having another one taking up space.

The Late 2016 MacBook Pros do not excite me as products. As examples of state-of-the-art design and engineering they are rather good, but the prices are just too high. If Apple wanted to have a home-run, they would drop the 2015 models (including the 13" MBA) and slash the entire portable line $200-300 across the board. At current prices, they'll probably get plenty of orders. Just not any further ones from me for at least a couple years.

Well said. A great post. This echoes the sentiments of many, many people who were looking forward to the computers prior to the disappointing reveal.

 

[sahnjuro]

I don't quite understand Apple's design priorities any more. It seems like the fun has been slowly disappearing for a while- Sierra and iOS 10 are friendly, and the touch bar is a snazzy addition. But like the snoring sleep light before it, the glowing logo was a great touch, flashy without being blingy. I guess Apple's war on flash continues...

They probably dropped it to make the lid thinner, or perhaps they did it based on how the new screen assembly works best. Oh well.

As for the extension cable, I've got three of the damned things lying around. While the exclusion is less than good in principle, I wouldn't mind not having another one taking up space.

The Late 2016 MacBook Pros do not excite me as products. As examples of state-of-the-art design and engineering they are rather good, but the prices are just too high. If Apple wanted to have a home-run, they would drop the 2015 models (including the 13" MBA) and slash the entire portable line $200-300 across the board. At current prices, they'll probably get plenty of orders. Just not any further ones from me for at least a couple years.

Agree. The new MBPs are the most expensive cheapest macs ever. Whatever happen to the computer for the rest of us?

Wouldn't be surprised if they release lower priced models or cut prices in few months. They had to do that with retina Mbps when they were released first.

 

[forbegos34]

Apple's "Hello Again" event has come and gone, leaving us with an abundance of Apple-related news and updates heading into the weekend. Below, we have shared some of the more interesting tidbits that have surfaced over the past 24 hours.

Image Credit: Edgar Alvarez, Engadget​

Backlit Apple Logo Removed: As it did with the 12-inch MacBook, Apple has removed the backlit Apple logo on new MacBook Pro models. In its place is a glossy Apple logo in black on the Space Gray model and in white on the Silver model. Apple's older MacBook Pros and 13-inch MacBook Air are now its only notebooks with backlit Apple logos that remain available for purchase. Apple's first notebook with a lit-up Apple logo was the third-generation PowerBook G3 released in 1999.

No Power Extension Cable: In line with the 12-inch MacBook, new MacBook Pro models do not come with Apple's Power Adapter Extension Cable in the box. Previous MacBook Pro models included the extension cable in the box for several years. The extension cable, which provides extra length between the power brick and wall outlet, can be purchased as a standalone product for $19.

Touch Bar Has Automatic Brightness: Jason Snell at Apple blog Six Colors spent time with the new MacBook Pro yesterday and discovered the Touch Bar's brightness is not manually adjustable. Instead, the mini Retina display's brightness varies based on lighting conditions, using the MacBook Pro's built-in ambient light sensor. Apple calls this feature Automatic Brightness on iOS devices. "I wasn't able to try and trick it or confuse it, but the entire time I was using it--in a dark room and in a much more brightly lit one--it seemed to match the keyboard well," he explained.

Price Changes: Apple's price changes extend beyond the United Kingdom. The 12-inch MacBook, for example, has increased $100 in price in Canada, where the 256GB model now sells for $1,649 and the 512GB model retails for $1,999. Meanwhile, the reverse has happened in Norway, where 12-inch MacBook prices have dropped by 1000 kroner for each model. Likewise, in New Zealand, 12-inch MacBook prices are now $200 to $250 lower depending on the model. These adjustments are common as Apple keeps its pricing in foreign currencies in line with the U.S. dollar.

1Password Shares Touch Bar Concepts: AgileBits was so excited about Apple's MacBook Pro event yesterday that it has created some mockups of how 1Password could work with the Touch Bar. 1Password users will be able to unlock the app with Touch ID, for example, while Touch Bar will make it easy to switch between password vaults, select new item types, and create website logins. 1Password also anticipates allowing users to slide their fingers across the Touch Bar to generate a strong password.

Know of an interesting Apple-related tidbit? Send an email to tips@macrumors.com or contact us on Twitter or Facebook.

Article Link: New MacBook Pros Don't Include Backlit Apple Logo or Power Extension Cable

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Lol!!!

Don't forget you might need to buy an adaptor to get the mac out of the box too

That so many MacBook fans have been dismayed by these new products for various reasons is quite telling. I can't recall the last time there was this much of a general "disappointed" consensus with a MacBook product...not even the original MacBook Air had this level of dismayed MacBook customers/potential customers I don't think.
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Well said. A great post. This echoes the sentiments of many, many people who were looking forward to the computers prior to the disappointing reveal.

New MacBook Pro with similar configuration to last generation $400 dollars more. Doesn't make any sense!

 

[Naimfan]

Well, wound up selling mine and ordering a NOS Mid-2015. Ordinarily I'd say that I hope Apple finds some sense and reduces the pricing on the new MBPs, but as I used to say while serving in the military, "Hope is not a leadership strategy."

The nickel and diming is unbecoming of Apple and diminishes it.

 

[ds10]

I wonder how much the lack of the glowing logo will hurt Apple.

Every time you see a shot of, for example, a DJ using a Mac as his DJ computer, you will see the glowing white Apple logo there. It stands out big time and provides so much free product placement and advertising. Same thing with pretty much any photo of a bunch of people using laptops. The Macs stand out.

The lack of the glowy logo is a bit sad for me, but not a huge deal. But it may hurt Apple in the long run.

Lack of glowing logo is VERY welcome news to me. I often work outdoors or in other places with very bright lights. That light-up logo also permitted light to pass through the panel from behind. As a photographer, this meant that while editing photos in such environments, the color rendition would be affected where the sunlight came through the logo.

Want to see the effect for yourself? Put your MBP into sleep mode with the display open (use the Apple > Sleep), then shine a bright flashlight into the logo and look at your screen. You'll see a bit of light coming through. This has been a major annoyance on each of the MBPs I've had. Glad to see this remedied.

 

[Kabeyun]

Well, wound up selling mine and ordering a NOS Mid-2015. Ordinarily I'd say that I hope Apple finds some sense and reduces the pricing on the new MBPs, but as I used to say while serving in the military, "Hope is not a leadership strategy."

The nickel and diming is unbecoming of Apple and diminishes it.

Apparently they have trouble learning from their mistakes.

Jobs:

To all iPhone customers:

I have received hundreds of emails from iPhone customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of iPhone by $200 two months after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of the 8GB iPhone from $599 to $399, and that now is the right time to do it. iPhone is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. iPhone is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every iPhone user to get as many new customers as possible in the iPhone 'tent'. We strongly believe the $399 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of iPhone, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued iPhone customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.​

Schiller:

We don't design for the price, we design for the experience.
​

Dylan:

The times they are a-changin.​

And besides the extension cable they're also à-la-carting us on the handful of useful adapters they used to throw in.

This release would've make more sense if they'd changed the glowing Apple logo to a shiny middle finger.

 

[SSDGUY]

I wonder how much the lack of the glowing logo will hurt Apple.

Every time you see a shot of, for example, a DJ using a Mac as his DJ computer, you will see the glowing white Apple logo there. It stands out big time and provides so much free product placement and advertising. Same thing with pretty much any photo of a bunch of people using laptops. The Macs stand out.

The lack of the glowy logo is a bit sad for me, but not a huge deal. But it may hurt Apple in the long run.

I suppose it's good advertising, but for me I'd prefer to not have it. Never been a show off my brand kinda guy. Well, expect for my vintage Ludwig drums.

 

[Ghost31]

Apparently they have trouble learning from their mistakes.

Jobs:

To all iPhone customers:

I have received hundreds of emails from iPhone customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of iPhone by $200 two months after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of the 8GB iPhone from $599 to $399, and that now is the right time to do it. iPhone is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. iPhone is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every iPhone user to get as many new customers as possible in the iPhone 'tent'. We strongly believe the $399 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of iPhone, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued iPhone customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.​

Schiller:

We don't design for the price, we design for the experience.
​

Dylan:

The times they are a-changin.​

And besides the extension cable they're also à-la-carting us on the handful of useful adapters they used to throw in.

This release would've make more sense if they'd changed the glowing Apple logo to a shiny middle finger.

Steve was an amazing communicator. You really felt like he was being straight with you when something happened.

And on the schiller quote..."price" is part OF the experience dummy. If i buy a vanilla coke for $1 and it tastes good, its a great experience. If i buy that same coke (that did taste good) for $20, my experience is no longer a good one

 

[emailnotebox]

Apparently they have trouble learning from their mistakes.

Jobs:

To all iPhone customers:

I have received hundreds of emails from iPhone customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of iPhone by $200 two months after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of the 8GB iPhone from $599 to $399, and that now is the right time to do it. iPhone is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. iPhone is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every iPhone user to get as many new customers as possible in the iPhone 'tent'. We strongly believe the $399 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of iPhone, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued iPhone customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.​

Schiller:

We don't design for the price, we design for the experience.
​

Dylan:

The times they are a-changin.​

And besides the extension cable they're also à-la-carting us on the handful of useful adapters they used to throw in.

This release would've make more sense if they'd changed the glowing Apple logo to a shiny middle finger.

amazing. it well captures the days of apple under a great leadership.

 

[oldwatery]

That's what happens when you have an accountant running a company. My current 5K iMac will be my last Apple computer after 30 years of supporting them.

 

[flyinmac]

Just like the headphone jack on the iPhone 7, the backlight for the Apple logo is still there if you drill a hole to let the light out.



Disclaimer: not responsible for any failure to think before you drill.

 

[wozmatic]

Honestly this is one of the worst releases ever for apple

140+ likes on this comment and I couldn't agree more.

It's super sad that so much anticipation hinged on the next macbook pro and they dropped the ball so hard

This is all I can think of...

 

[saudade]

Buying a laptop 2 get girls is 2 funny

It works. Famales luvs money rispect
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I guess case manufacturers don't need to make cut outs for the Apple logo anymore. Nobody's gonna know you're using a MBP and you won't feel special anymore. All the hipsters won't have a reason to sit at Starbucks showing off their glowing Apple logo. Starbucks will go bankrupt!!!

Yeah that's what i mean dud u need the logo with light to atract ppl 2 u. Gurlz wanna see guys with mac cause that means money money know what i mean?? Mac logo = easy going

 

[HurryKayne]

They really need to fix their pricing soon if they want to sell anywhere near the quantities they have previously sold. The redesign results in a short term burst of sales which looks good for Tim Cook so maybe in Q1 of 2017.

Have just they cut the light because of the ram?They said couldn't go up to 32 because of the energy needed.This could be comical but not at those prices.Epic Fail.Cook and his team must go.

 

[Galatian]

Like the price is a big deal...anybody remember when the first version of the rMBP came out? I purchased the 13" version in October and half a year later it received a major price cut. The option I choose back then with the Ivy Bridge processor got 500€ cheaper over night.

I guess the same will happen with these.

 

[villicodelirant]

I don't quite understand Apple's design priorities any more. It seems like the fun has been slowly disappearing for a while- Sierra and iOS 10 are friendly, and the touch bar is a snazzy addition. But like the snoring sleep light before it, the glowing logo was a great touch, flashy without being blingy. I guess Apple's war on flash continues...

When a joke is so frighteningly bad it's actually good.

To be honest, as a fan of the early graphite Powerbooks (as in, my very first love was my uncle's Powerbook 140 back in the day - codenamed Tim, IIRC ) I would so very much like to see a de-hipsterization and de-flashization of Apple, but I think that's not happening.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

I feel you all, but what the hell are you all gonna buy and work on instead? Dell XPS? Microsoft Surface Book? I was really schocked by the price and gimmicky touch bar, but i still don't see any other product equal in quality and service as what you get with the MBP.

My thoughts are the same. There is a big difference between jumping ship and walking the plank.

 

[villicodelirant]

I feel you all, but what the hell are you all gonna buy and work on instead? Dell XPS? Microsoft Surface Book?

Dell Latitude, more like - but, why not?
Other manufacturers do make (or rather, do outsource to Foxconn) perfectly usable machines.

I like the Mac as much as the next guy, but I really don't understand why some people on this forum make it sound as if they would physically die had they to buy another brand.

Heack, I would rather avoid Dell consumer laptops (Inspiron and the like), but if I only had 300 bucks they would probably service me fine (despite being an eyesore, having ****** connectivity and shipping with a consumer OS).

At the end of the day a computer is a tool to get work done.
If it doesn't look like trash and it doesn't annoy the hell out of you it's just a huge a plus, not a requirement.

 

[jwkay]

I rarely see those extension cords used, especially now that all-day battery life is pretty much expected.

In Europe I rarely see anyone NOT use the cable; the power bricks just hang loosely in the wall socket otherwise, and are not earthed.

 

[villicodelirant]

In Europe I rarely see anyone NOT use the cable; the power bricks just hang loosely in the wall socket otherwise, and are not earthed.

There's Europe and Europe.
German-style Shucko is still usable, but anywhere where abherrations like IEC Type L are used you need the cable.