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I'm speechless that anyone is speechless about Apple charging a premium for their products. Like it or not they have been doing this for years with every single thing they sell and I don't see it changing in the foreseeable future.
I think it's the added premium on top of the normal Apple premium that's pissed everyone off this time.
 
What's the best place to pick up a 15" rMBP prior model (May 2015)? Amazon has it for $100 more than the refurbish Apple is selling. I can go into Best Buy and get them to match that Im guessing (the Amazon price of $1799). But I'm scared there are better deals to be had for a prior model now that the new ones are out.

Currently have a 2012 13" MPB (not retina :( ) that I've had to replace the battery that died and it still doesn't really hold a charge well. Before that I was using the 2009 15" MBP that had a memory slot die out and then mysteriously never turned on again recently.

edit: I hate the dropping of the magsafe and all usb-a ports and of course the prices :) and I don't care for the touch bar.

Well pulled the trigger on that, I'm sure there will be better prices but probably not by much since the new MacBooks are so expensive. My local best buy doesn't stock the 16gb/512GB models and they won't match a refurbished price anyway. I will have the new machine for a couple years and will suite my needs as my Air does it now. Just a FYI I run Revit in windows and wanted a little more power and I got it for less. I just won't do 2500$ plus adapters.
 
I think what is happening is not that far away from cartel economics.

Both MS and Apple and pushing the price of premium notebooks higher, after a period where prices were tumbling.

But most will eventually adapt to the new prices and rationalise their purchase choices.

I think predicting Apple's demise based on this release is premature. What there is today is a shockwave due to prices. As the days go by, folk will become assimilated - just like they have by spending £700 each year on a new phone, or £400 on a new watch, just so they can see their text messages ping in on their wrist.

It's the way of the world, sadly.

I don't know, look at mac pro, most stayed tower or went windows and never adapted to what Apple forces Pro.

Cartel economics I don't think so ... Microsoft just wants to get rid of that "crap" image,
and if I was in the market for a serious touch workflow, they offer a serious product at about the same price
as an 27" imac, the designer alure of Apple but It's more like a wacom in fuunction.
It looks really great, if not this version, than maybe the next could be THE drawing board design pc.

The strip is not serious, using an ipad pro as an adobe controller could be more interesting
( maybe It's possible, I don't have Ipad )

But for 2000 - 3000 pure laptop you will get something more beefy from most PC vendors.
For 2000 - 3000 pure desktop PC, you get a Mac crusher.
High end PC's were never cheap, they were cheaper, the prices go down fast, there are more actions and deals etc ...
but on release date, premium PC's are expensive.

Microsoft might go for the premium brand price now they have the spotlight, to get a better imago.
But those prices won't be the same in 3 years, like some Apple products.
Apple is just delusional, they know they can hardmilk there fanbase, so they try,
sometimes It fails. Like now, timing is bad for an overoverpriced emoji macbook when hopes were realy high.

With the market stagnates, inovation slows down a little, price go up a little.
 
As I said in another thread here recently, with these prices, I'm starting to look at something like an ASUS ZenBook Pro UX501VW, because pricing on these and the new Surface Book are quite the proverbial kick in the teeth.
 
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I doubt Apple will lower prices with next version. They did not lower the price of the overpriced 12-inch Macbook, neither in April when it was updated, nor now with the release of the new Pro.

The greed will have Apple loosing customers for sure.
 
It's pretty sad that the new rMBP prices make we consider switching to a Windows PC for the firs time in my life. I've always been an Apple user but this is ridiculous. I have a 2014 13" rMBP but I'm wondering if I should grab a 2015 model refurb while I still can.

You should.
 
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I doubt Apple will lower prices with next version. They did not lower the price of the overpriced 12-inch Macbook, neither in April when it was updated, nor now with the release of the new Pro.

The greed will have Apple loosing customers for sure.

If they wanted to increase their sales volume they would, but I don't think they care for some reason. Perhaps they see WWIII coming and want to build bunkers with the extra cash.
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You really think it's worth it?

I love my 2015 MBP. I find touch screens to be a distraction, and often an extra step and effort. Just me perhaps.
 
We all know Apple products have premium price. But their price on the new MacBooks is absolutely crazy far beyond my expectations. The 13" one with the touch bar is amazing and while watching the keynote, I knew this sucker was gonna be expensive...but at $1799.... Wow it's enough to buy 2 iphone 7 Plus 128gb

The new MBP price might be the worst thing Apple has done in my lifetime
 
I think it's the added premium on top of the normal Apple premium that's pissed everyone off this time.


Possibly, but is it really an added premium on top of the normal premium? Look at iPhone prices that many people buy annually ($649-$969 without apple care), outdated Mac Pro prices ($9,497 for top spec model without apple care), regular Macbooks ($1,749 for top specs without apple care), even accessories like "AirPods" are priced at $159.

On top of all that they starved the market for years of a new rMBP and have customers desperately willing to spend more money. I honestly would be more "speechless" if they released a product that was widely considered a fair price. In fact if you look back at almost every major Apple product launch you will find a large number of consumers saying the product is "overpriced" yet we still buy them and Apple continues to make a profit.

Also its worth noting that the new top spec surface book is $3,299 with similar specs to the new rMBP and Microsofts fanbase is less used to paying a premium and far less loyal. Maybe I'm alone here but I'm just really not surprised with the pricing at all.
 
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The new MBP price might be the worst thing Apple has done in my lifetime
May i ask you why? because of the price? i mean i know its expensive but this is Apple also it has a brand new tool bar, looks pretty nice and appears to be pretty useful.
 
Unreal. Usually totally fine with everything Apple releases, even iPhone 7 I can live with no headphone, but this is absurd. Just when Microsoft really picking up pace with some great new hardware and software releases and over the past year, then this hits.

Just checked, and I'll need at least $100 of dongles to continue using the computer as I usually do. And that's ON TOP of the ridiculous price hikes. Need to spend at least $1800 because the cheaper one only two ports (one of which is for charging), slower processor, weaker graphics. Really?? Unless you want to buy a dock or splitter but then thats more $$...

So about $2000 with tax and all is said and done for only 256gb hard drive, adapters, and last years processors. Guess that Venturebeat article was right: Tim Cook is the new Steve Ballmer. http://venturebeat.com/2016/10/25/why-tim-cook-is-steve-ballmer/
Thanks for sharing. That article was very interesting and hit the nail on the head.
 
Sticking with my 2013 13" Pro for some more time. i7, 512ssd and 8gb ram. It will last for a few more years.
 
No. Your 14 is fine I hope. Keep it if it works.

Yeah it works well. I just know I will have to upgrade at some point and I don't think I'll like the options. Speed and power I'm sure will be fine. But connectivity will suck. Apple seems on a quest to go completely wireless. Eventually there won't be any ports at all. Wired will always trump wireless.
 
There is a fine line of pricing where ppl decide "to buy" or "not to buy". Don't forget to add in the costs of all the new dongles and adapters. Ofc there are many of you out there who are lucky enough not to worry about the price or do not have a choice to upgrade to the best of the best to serve your work. I know it's very tempting to pre-order but it wouldn't hurt to wait a little more for the real world reviews to come in to see if there are many hardware issues that would annoy you in the long term.

We all have to accept that the world won't spin back just for us and it will be cheaper in the future (It's Apple we talking about). We will have to buy sooner or later but it's a long term investment that we have to make wisely.
 
May i ask you why? because of the price? i mean i know its expensive but this is Apple also it has a brand new tool bar, looks pretty nice and appears to be pretty useful.

It might sound lame but they kinda broke my heart with this product.
I've been waiting for Apple to announce the new MacBook Pro for a long time, because I was planning to save up money for one before starting university. And what they did? They kept the price of the old model the same (???) and added the new lineup on top of it, like it's an entirely new thing. What's the point of creating a new generation of a product if you do that? It defeats the whole purpose. iPhone 7 comes, it replaces the iPhone 6s. It is know. And all of that for what? A touch screen?

I've been (and still am, of course) an Apple fan for years but now I'm telling you there's no way in hell I can arrange that kind of money to buy the MacBook Pro I always wanted. Hell, I want to go to the university just so I can make that kind of money. We all know I will buy the older model eventually, but every Apple fan knows no satisfaction comes from that and it's not fun at all. This computer is literally only for elitists to buy, and that's too much even for Apple. Disgusting.
 
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At least it has a headphone jack, lol.

Will be super funny. Trying to copy something to your MBP from a usb flash drive and you're like: "Sorry, can't do, forgot my dongle".

To be able to use that thing for all the work, you'd need to spend another 180 bucks for dongles. HDMI, VGA, USB, Thunderbolt 2... Super thin and light laptop and a bag of dongles to carry around.
They could at least include a few dongles considering the price.
 
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Oh man i feel your pain.

Now, regarding this:

They kept the price of the old model the same (???) and added the new lineup on top of it, like it's an entirely new thing. What's the point of creating a new generation of a product if you do that? It defeats the whole purpose. iPhone 7 comes, it replaces the iPhone 6s. It is know. And all of that for what? A touch screen?

That is exactly what Apple does in countries like Mexico since long time ago, they kept the price of the old model the same and ad the new lineup on top of it, now they are doing it in the States apparently.

However in Mexico we have some added factors like Trump winning the election, taxes and the inflation sadly...
 
I believe that Apple has become arrogant with their pricing. Humility, on the other hand, is a a virtue.
 
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