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For my work, the size of the trackpad of the XPS13 is more than enough and the battery life of 12-14 hours doesn't sound too bad. (1080p model)

For my work I can use a computer from 1992.

But that doesnt mean the Dell and the mac can be compared.

You can choose to go the "cheap" route but dont call a spade a spade when its a club.
 
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For my work I can use a computer from 1992.

But that doesnt mean the Dell and the mac can be compared.

You can choose to go the "cheap" route but dont call a spade a spade when its a club.

I would say "to each his own". Of course, I can and I will do whatever I think is the most appropriate thing in this regard. What you can and probably will do, is going the "unreasonably expensive" route and this is your perfect right.
 
A ding against the Surface Book is that, the comparable Pro is only $100 cheaper. Sure, you get a pen and stuff, but it's definitely not the "Apple Tax" worth.
 
I was right - they did it to reduce weight. And I agree with that decision. Jason Snell confirmed it today:

The display is an energy saver. According to Apple, the retina display on these models is brighter—rated at 500 nits—and incorporates the same larger pixel aperture and variable refresh rate as the MacBook’s display. Despite all that, the display uses 30 percent less energy than the previous model. That’s one of the ways Apple was able to shave weight off of these laptops—by reducing battery due to the decreased power consumption of the screen.
This has given me some hope, thank you for this. I'll look into the claim a bit more.
 
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In germany we can get at least 50% of full price back over 3years from tax office, through adding it as income-related expenses. Everybody who is employed can do this in germany. Means the biggest MacBook will cost me less than 1000€
 
This topic is super lengthy. Not going to read all this...

I bought a 2015 MBP and when these came online yesterday I looked at prices and WOW. Can't believe it, they've priced theirself in a whole different league. Glad I got my MBP last year. The touch bar thing cool, but the premium on it's ludicrous.
 
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I'm glad I didn't wait! I love the new touchbar but I don't love it THAT much. It'll come down in price though. The early adopters can fund the development, I'll happily wait a generation or two.

Totally agree with you there. I got my MBP last year for $2500 AUD simply because I wanted the bigger screen. Now the same model is $2999 even though it's older and if you want the touch bar, it's $3600???? Seriously though???? It's not like you're buying a house or a designer collectors item that appreciates in value over time. Very strange.
 
If the engineers at Apple were on drugs, we would actually have some of the COOLEST MOST CREATIVE computers on the market. No....

These guys took too much NyQuil and fell asleep on the job
Think you mean Benadryl. It's a nice shade of pink, err, I mean Rose Gold.
 
Nothing to do with Brexit, the UK hasn't even triggered the move. This is just the banks, Apple and everyone else using it as an excuse and taking advantage.

It is more the world lost faith in you, since you're basicly out and no one knows what that means for you yet, investors move money out/stops investing. Your money becomes less worth, import prices goes up. A bit more than 50% of the UK price increase is directly due to brexit (funny thing is, that drop for only an year, costs you as much as 30 years of EU membership). Now you could say your products become cheaper worldwide, but unless the raw material is from the UK, you have to import those too.

USB to GBP

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The week before the announcement I went and priced out the top of the line 15" with 16GB, 1TB and the max GPU and processor available and that came to $3899CDN. The new one is now $4339CDN and of course more if you go to 2TB. So a $440 tax on touchbar and some size/weight reduction.

Personally all I really wanted was the size/weight reduction and $440 is a big premium to pay for that but for me its worth it.
 
Damn. Again. I'm going Dell. Screw your arguments about Windows, it's a kickass OS.

Dell XPS 13
7th Gen i7-7500U Kaby Lake
16GB RAM
512GB SSD
3200x1800 touch display (276 ppi)
$1849 right now.

Plenty of ports, SD card reader, and USB-C.

Hi. Can you please share the link for this Dell?
I'm going to the USA next march; my original plan was buying a brand new MBP to replace my 3 years old retina but with the lack of SD card reader and 4 usb c I changed my mind.
 
I would say they have for the most part, which is whey they were experiencing quarter after quarter record breaking sales

I mean you have the ipod, iPhone, iPad, watch, apple tv, iTunes, OS X etc all within the last 15 years

What was so innovative about the last Macbook Pro?
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Steve Jobs was the identity of Apple. Amazing products, fair price. Now the products still amazing but the price went crazy. :(
I'm sure this won't happened with Steve...

The Cube
Ping
Lisa
An iPhone that loses its signal when you hold it.

all not amazing products/things
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A ding against the Surface Book is that, the comparable Pro is only $100 cheaper. Sure, you get a pen and stuff, but it's definitely not the "Apple Tax" worth.

Positive opinions of both the Surface Book and Surface Pro sometimes perplex me. I own both. They both make for an awful (yep, awful) tablet experience.

The Surface Pro especially is a confusing product. Its a bad tablet combined with a sub par laptop experience (the Surface Book can at least sometimes be considered a decent laptop).
 
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The extension cable that was included with the MBP is now $19 extra!

Bean counter Tim at work here, making up for the year after year decline in revenue & profits.

iPhone & iPad prices are higher than ever, and I'm afraid their other products will follow suit (should they ever get updated, i.e. Mac Pro).

Instead of real innovation, what we get is apple finding more ways to suck their customers dry.
 
In my country, one has to work 8 months to afford the maxed out Macbook Pro. Greedy bastards!
Also, i can't understand their stupid virtue signaling with the accessibility features and products made for disabled people. Like disabled people could ever afford an Apple computer!!! They should be ashamed.

I find this absolutely offensive.
 
Welcome to Switzerland, my friend :)
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What professional hardware are you using?



Which outdated technology? Everything about that mac is literally cutting edge. Some of the components they use haven't even been released yet :)

Audio interfaces, electronic controllers, Kinekt, LEAP motion, Lemur, ARDUINO devices..the list goes on and on...

...and seriously? The processors are already outdated. The 7th generation chips are already in PCs, so why would I pay this much for the 6th generation? Also DDR3? Not for $2300 on what is supposed to be a professional machine.

This machine was built less for power users, and more for people who care about how easy it is to find the poop emoji.
 
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It is more the world lost faith in you, since you're basicly out and no one knows what that means for you yet, investors move money out/stops investing. Your money becomes less worth, import prices goes up. A bit more than 50% of the UK price increase is directly due to brexit (funny thing is, that drop for only an year, costs you as much as 30 years of EU membership). Now you could say your products become cheaper worldwide, but unless the raw material is from the UK, you have to import those too.

USB to GBP

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Careful, Brexiteers can't stand facts, even less so when it's foreigners articulating them.
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Hi. Can you please share the link for this Dell?
I'm going to the USA next march; my original plan was buying a brand new MBP to replace my 3 years old retina but with the lack of SD card reader and 4 usb c I changed my mind.

My link to the UK version is a few posts above if that helps, although that's the variant that comes with Ubuntu preinstalled (Linux is what pays my bills and I can't stand Windows so won't pay for an OS I won't ever use).

I had an earlier generation of that machine and absolutely loved it for the 6 months use I got out of it. Sadly when it died (power supply issues to the motherboard, fwiw) Dell (Business arm no less) were astonishingly crap when it came to repairing it and after sending out two DOA replacement boards finally, after 3 months of arguing, refunded me.

The price tag of the current version is almost enough for me to tell myself that that must have been an isolated incident.

Almost.

But not quite.

Yet.
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The Air is still displayed probably because it's a great computer for people on a tight budget.

I don't think people on a tight budget look too hard at Apple's line up, nor do I think this bothers Apple too much.
 
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