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New MBP price = *speechless*
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The price is the biggest update - the rest is fluff
I'm sure there are plenty of poor people who still wish to be part of Apple's ecosystem. Don't remember the initial success of the iPod shuffle? Mac mini, iPhone 5C. The iPod shuffle was complete crap, but Apple still sold a ton of them.
Trust me, if I was Apple, I would have dropped the Air by now. It has no place in the current lineup when the Retina MacBook and non-Touch Bar MBP fulfill the same functions while having more options. But you took my comment out of context; the point I was making is that Apple has a very straightforward and intuitive MacBook range right now.
Windows 8.0 was the last to work on a Pentium 4. 8.1 and later will invoke a "Sorry, you can't install the update because it's not supported by your CPU." message due to missing instructions.
Why drop a computer when you can sell it at full price and get some suckers? That's what Apple thinks nowadays
If I understand correctly, these devices use USB. So all you need is a new USB cable to replace the one you currently use. I don't get the fuzz honestly. Is it such a big deal to buy a bunch of $10 cables?
Sign... yet another one. The 7th generations chips are only out for low-power, low-performance models. Do you want to have a dual core 15W CPU in your 15" 'pro' machine? Would it really make it more suitable for 'power users'? The Skylake CPUs Apple uses are literally the fastest available consumer mobile CPU at this moment. They are absolute cutting edge.
Right, you get fastest available CPUs on the market, fastest available storage on the market, best connectivity options of all the laptops on the market (4 universal ports with 40Gb/s bandwidth) and a GPU that rivals gaming machines (admittedly, one can complain about the GPU, but its really the fastest one available given the design constraints). All that in a 1.8kg laptop that can easily fit in your shoulder bag. Which can run whole day on a battery charge. And thats not 'pro' enough for you.
You know, I can understand that people find that laptop too expensive (it really is). I can also understand that they are disappointed by some of Apple's choices (like focusing on mobility instead of offering slightly larger enclosure with a faster GPU for example). You can get a comparable laptop for less money, sure. But saying that MBP is 'outdated'... thats frankly just a massive reality disconnect.
As a big Apple fan, everything in my house runs on Apple, but mark my words Microsoft is going to make a big comeback!
I hope it can at least run Civilization 6 on full settings for that maxed price tag... but probably not lol
It is outdated already. March next year they will announce a 32 GB version with Kaby Lake, and all the peopl who bought their ****** new "pros" will regret it.
I was sure that people were going to take this the wrong way. You're so sensitive. I was talking about the fact that Apple IS USING disabled people to virtue signal, to give you that "Awwww! They're such a good company" feeling. And yes i think that most disabled people can't afford Apple products, but the solution is not to STOP making features and products for them (like you imply). If Apple cared so much about them and their lives (like they pretend to), they should offer them big discounts, give them for free to hospitals and centres that actually help people with problems and not brag about it.
For what its worth, i have never in my entire time on the internet seen such a reaction to an apple keynote. Not even when the first macbook air was launched to negative press. The amount of people saying they're switching to windows is staggering. Even the most ardent apple fanboys are losing their ****.
So will apple sell alot? Probably. But i think there will be quite a few switchers to windows too. And that's surprising
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Was thinking the same damn thing. They're really marketing a little too hard to the point where you actually NOTICE they're marketing to you in a certain way to pull at the heart strings. What next? Oh I shouldn't even ask...i'll just wait for the next keynote where they bring out puppies and tell me how the next apple product saves them too
Yup, this is awful but that doesn't explain the whole increase as we've seen by the global increases. I wouldn't mind the Brexit kncrease because the UK really shafted itself but I do think that Apple got greedy this time round, I do think his is going to backfire in terms of sales.
It makes sense because Apple has not lately used cutting edge to justify the stupid price hike. That is all. These machines should have come with 16GB RAM standard considering that now the customer cannot upgrade it. This is essentially them being gung-ho about their increment mentality lately, give one feature, play with thinness, charge ... case in point: the iPhone 7. Why is it not a true tone equipped display when everything else is there? Because that particular feature will be available next year and become one more selling point.
Back to laptop computers, what kind of professional do they know who would like to have dongles dangling from his laptop all the time the moment the "professional" wants to achieve anything more than basic? These are really no more professional machines whatsoever. Just more powerful MacBooks.
Does their Ive look at the machine solely or does he f****in even care that this "unapologetically masterb****ly beautiful" piece of hardware will one day be mated to a human who will use it with current gen technology that he has amassed over years (as most professionals)? OK, forget that even, but then how do you connect their own ecosystem devices aka the iPieces to the MacBooks without a dongle to purchase separately? Why this additional link in the chain unnecessarily? It is truly unnecessary today, and that is why most here are pissed at it.
They are taking functionality away, and taking those ports away means reduced hardware cost in even the smallest of ways. Have we stopped using HDMI? Have we stopped using USB-A? This Apple direction at this keynote has left me angry as well, and I see that the sentiment is shared across the world. This will hit Apple hard. The increase in prices will not be able to balance the sales loss this time for them. I hope it happens, so they see that making their devices dumb and dumber is not the way to go. They are trying to make people buy more and more of their dongles.
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Have the cretins in charge at Apple actually responded to these price concerns? Man, the complaints are across the board, never seen so many people in agreement on this forum.
I bought the latest edition of the MacBook on release this year as a stop gap for the new MBPs arrival. There's no way I'll be dropping cash for the gouging prices Apple are now charging, and for the first time in over 10 years I've been looking at HP and Dell offerings - what a difference in price vs. equipment. Yes, it's going back to Windows but Apple have been goosing us over the last two years taking away this, removing that, while increasing prices. That's even before the two sets of price increases in the UK in the last six months. 20% increase this time around? Arseholes.
The execs in charge on their obscene salaries and bonuses have finally lost touch with reality and the affordability of their laptops for the majority of their customer base.
Well done you cretins, I look forward to the next set of sales figures for the MacBooks and MBPs - if you actually release the figures.
I bought the latest edition of the MacBook on release this year as a stop gap for the new MBPs arrival. There's no way I'll be dropping cash for the gouging prices Apple are now charging, and for the first time in over 10 years I've been looking at HP and Dell offerings - what a difference in price vs. equipment. Yes, it's going back to Windows but Apple have been goosing us over the last two years taking away this, removing that, while increasing prices. That's even before the two sets of price increases in the UK in the last six months. 20% increase this time around? Arseholes.
The execs in charge on their obscene salaries and bonuses have finally lost touch with reality and the affordability of their laptops for the majority of their customer base.
Well done you cretins, I look forward to the next set of sales figures for the MacBooks and MBPs - if you actually release the figures.
Haven't had the time yet to read though the majority of this thread, so pardon me if this has already been posted.
This article has some interesting ideas about why we are seeing these exorbitant prices of late.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/28/...pc-surface-macbook-prices-expensive-exclusive
This article has some interesting ideas about why we are seeing these exorbitant prices of late.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/28/...pc-surface-macbook-prices-expensive-exclusive
That is the first article that I think calls out the issue and nails it right on the head. This is EXACTLY what is happening and I don't even think we need to debate it anymore. It's just tiresome. But the differentiators still lie...
With apple they aren't very motivated anymore and the entry point to having a decent Mac OS experience is absurdly high.
With Microsoft, they are risk taking and trying new things. You pay more, but are getting more value and features for the price. Also a biggie...
YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY SURFACE ANYTHING TO BE IN THE WINDOWS ECOSYSTEM. Seriously. You can buy a $500 hp x360 2 in 1 laptop with a touch screen an a nice keyboard and still have a decent windows experience. Or you can pick and choose what you like at higher ends. Not to mention increased compatibility windows brings with everything else in the world. There are major benefits to windows.
Haven't been a windows user for years. Will be again soon
In the US the base model Macbook pro 13 is 200$ more then the previous version, here in canada is 350$ more.
Is this tax related or ?
I know you can't compare cars and laptops but....
When I purchased my 911 carrera s in 2010 brand new , one year later Porsche released the new model. Bigger engine ,redisigned chassis and better interior , a much better car and it was 6000$ cheaper then the year before.
That's Porsche. Where is Apple justifying this 350$ (canadians) price increase?
Is this tax related or ?
I know you can't compare cars and laptops but....
When I purchased my 911 carrera s in 2010 brand new , one year later Porsche released the new model. Bigger engine ,redisigned chassis and better interior , a much better car and it was 6000$ cheaper then the year before.
That's Porsche. Where is Apple justifying this 350$ (canadians) price increase?
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Multiply all the USD prices by 1.3 (current USD/CAD rate), and the CDN Apple prices are bang-on.
Every time I use the trackpad on a windows device (including the Surface Book and Surface Pro) I feel like I need to take a Xanax.
Saved up quite some money for this update. I was ready to pay up to 3000 euros to get better performance over my Iris Pro 2014 15" MBP.
For 2700 you get the base 450 graphics card and just under 3000 the 4GB 460 model.
Problem is, I've been using a 12" MacBook for the last few months which has been absolutely amazing. It's slower, but not even that much slower than what I was used to. That's not right according to the specs, but it does feel like it.
That thing, base line from 2015, cost me 1200 euros. And it's so portable!
I'm not spending 3000 euros on a laptop anymore.
Damnit, I'm waiting a few more weeks to make up my mind. At this point I'm reconsidering every option including waiting on iMacs.
It would be much easier if the prices were lower!
For 2700 you get the base 450 graphics card and just under 3000 the 4GB 460 model.
Problem is, I've been using a 12" MacBook for the last few months which has been absolutely amazing. It's slower, but not even that much slower than what I was used to. That's not right according to the specs, but it does feel like it.
That thing, base line from 2015, cost me 1200 euros. And it's so portable!
I'm not spending 3000 euros on a laptop anymore.
Damnit, I'm waiting a few more weeks to make up my mind. At this point I'm reconsidering every option including waiting on iMacs.
It would be much easier if the prices were lower!