New MBP price = *speechless*

[leman]

BTW people, a fact that everyone seems to be missing is that these new MBP's are novel, experimental tech and as such of course they are expensive. I mean, they use wide gamut displays! How much do you think that costs? Also the GPU alone costs substantial $, because its highly binned Polaris. That was the same when the retina models where first introduced — they came with a hefty premium. Over time, prices came down. It will be the same in this case. Yes, its expensive. Yes, many people won't be able to justify it right now. But frankly, I don't think its overpriced. You can call it overpriced if another company releases a laptop that beats the new MBP spec per spec (and this includes the display etc.). So far the only other real innovative device we have is the new Microsoft Sufacebook, which is MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. Again, thats the cost of cutting edge tech.

For those who can't justify it, don't forget that the base model is still available. So are refurbs.

 

[rdavis41]

Sounds like you'd be better off with a Windows machine if all your apps require Windows. Not trying to be a smartass- but use the right tool for the job.

Funny you say that. I looked over the specs and the price point of these new Macbook Pros and think that Windows with their SurfaceBook is a better buy right now. First time I've even thought that for YEARS!!!

Guess I'll stick with my iPad Pro.

 

[mctrials23]

That would make no sense, considering the base 15" for the 2015 MacBook Pro was $1,999. Why would a newer AND higher spec model be the same price? I would love it if that was the case, but that doesn't make sense.

That depends on whether you consider the 2015 15" MBP to be overpriced. Even the most die hard apple fan would be hard pressed to argue that before todays announcement, the old macbook pros were overpriced for what they represented. A design that hasn't changed in years, slow ram, last gen processors etc. They were churning out the same machine of 4 years ago with slightly updated storage and processors. The profit margins must have been huge.

I think we all secretly hoped that apple would wow us with a great new laptop that made up for some of that profiteering.

As its stands, a huge number of people on here don't sound like they will be buying. These are apples die hard fans. Imagine what the average punter will do when they see those prices.

The apple ecosystem is what many of us appreciate. There is no ecosystem without the mac.

 

[Ryan1524]

Funny you say that. I looked over the specs and the price point of these new Macbook Pros and think that Windows with their SurfaceBook is a better buy right now. First time I've even thought that for YEARS!!!

Guess I'll stick with my iPad Pro.

Possibly not...

A bit of perspective: https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/productID.5077253600?VID=5077389500

Surface Book of similar config: CAD$4379 (less than MBP)

 

[exexs]

That would make no sense, considering the base 15" for the 2015 MacBook Pro was $1,999. Why would a newer AND higher spec model be the same price? I would love it if that was the case, but that doesn't make sense.

Every year technology evolves and production costs decrease. Every year you get an iphone with better spec at the same price factor. Why should it be different for macbook pro? Your analysis dosn't make any sense, not his comment.

 

[ISRMafia]

I think the pricing is because Apple doesn't want to rely on the iPhone only any more and wants a better revenue from the Mac lineup so it will satisfy it's investors but damn,if you have 240Billion $ in cash u had make it that expensive still?

 

[smorrissey]

I'm a little amazed by your complaints americans and uk people, complaining about prices? really? i mean you are first world.

I'm accustomed to those high prices in my country, i mean one of two you have the money or you don't as simple as that, that has always been the case with Apple, prices getting higher and higher each year + inflation + Trump and now even affecting other countries.

 

[Wallabe]

I don't get it, sorry. You say that you can't justify it and yet you say that you just bought a laptop that is SLOWER and techically inferiour and yet priced almost exactly the same. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Kaby Lake is more than enough for what I need. It's the ports and software compatibility (More Windows applications I need than Mac OS). Upgradeable SSD makes it a big plus too. I have the Macbook 12 inch from gen 1, so I already know about dongles and adapters.

Kaby Lake is faster and more power efficient. Better 4K video performance.

 

[smorrissey]

I think the pricing is because Apple doesn't want to rely on the iPhone only any more and wants a better revenue from the Mac lineup so it will satisfy it's investors but damn,if you have 240Billion $ in cash u had make it that expensive still?

Exactly.

 

[ascender]

Every year technology evolves and production costs decrease. Every year you get an iphone with better spec at the same price factor. Why should it be different for macbook pro? Your analysis dosn't make any sense, not his comment.

Production costs typically decrease when you're making more of the same sort of "thing" that you've made for a while. If you're making something new, you typically have increased costs in year one if there's new processes or tooling needed and any dev costs you need to recoup. And you can learn over time how to make stuff more efficiently and cheaply, plus stile better deals with suppliers etc.

So new tech is often more expensive in year one that the tech it's replacing.

Not excusing it, but just saying things are never as black and white as it may seem.

 

[StrawberryX]

I think the consesus is, It's too much, yeah nice thin and strip like trash and can.
And people start buying pc's, like when trash and can came.
8gig ram and 256gb ... you can't do pro **** with that.

 

[ISRMafia]

That would make no sense, considering the base 15" for the 2015 MacBook Pro was $1,999. Why would a newer AND higher spec model be the same price? I would love it if that was the case, but that doesn't make sense.

Bro - $4,798.98
and i live in Israel...

17,992.5 Shekels to the reseller to buy it.
20K Shekels probably for sale.
R.I.P
1 Dollar is 3.75 Shekels.

6,666.66666$
even the calculator knows its a devil lvl price WTF xD

 

[mctrials23]

I think the pricing is because Apple doesn't want to rely on the iPhone only any more and wants a better revenue from the Mac lineup so it will satisfy it's investors but damn,if you have 240Billion $ in cash u had make it that expensive still?

That would make sense if they would actually make more money by raising the prices. All this will accomplish is far less people buying macs and the knock on will be a reduction in peoples general spend with apple.

 

[exexs]

I just don't understand something:

I paid 1400euro for my rMPB i5 2,7GHz - 8Go 1866MHz DDR3 - 256GB SSD - Iris 6100

The new "base" macbook pro without the touchbar cost 1699euro with i5 2GHz (lower CPU spec) and same spec except for the graphics improved with Iris 540. The screen you will say? Is it worth 300 euro for most users?

How does it make sense for anyone, after 1 year, to buy a model similar in performances for 300 euro more? Dosn't even have the touchbar! For that you have to pay even more...

And the same macbook pro as I have, from last year, costs 1449 euro with 128 GB storage! One year after and even more expensive that what I've paid! This is pure madness or am I missing something ?

 

[meduzarija]

Now I am really glad that I got cranked 13" rMBP 8 months ago! Oh Apple I love you and your products, but this hurts me...

 

[ISRMafia]

That would make sense if they would actually make more money by raising the prices. All this will accomplish is far less people buying macs and the knock on will be a reduction in peoples general spend with apple.

an iPhone costs Apple 220$ to make and they sell it X3 $$$.... I guess they are doing the same with the Mac lineup...Rip Wallets and Apple fanboys around the world

 

[jerryk]

I recently got a 15" rMBP with dGPU for $2200 and thought it was an OK deal. Seeing the new units I think it was a fantastic deal. $600 price increase. I guess I will put aside any thought of upgrading. Maybe when they refresh with Kaby late next summer.

 

[NerosNeptune]

Exactly.

Hard to get better revenue if no one is buying at the higher prices

 

[wallysb01]

They have just gone a step too far for me. I could handle the price rises if they hadn't completely taken the piss with the spec.

8gb RAM and 512 SSD on a machine costing nearly £2k.

Why is there no option for 32gb and why isn't 16gb standard.

I had a 2013 13" MBP and it was a bit sluggish as a dev machine with 8gb. 16gb should be standard in a pro model especially at these prices.

Quite astounded that they are still not offering 32gb even as an upgrade option on the 15" MBP.

I think apple are going to get a massive shock when their sales for these suck. I was 100% going to get one of these with no thought that I wouldn't want it once they were released. It seems, just from a cursory look that at least 50% or more of people who were going to get a new MBP are not going to bother any more.

Once people don't have a mac I think that more people will be tempted by android as well. The next 5 years will make or break apple I reckon.

This and so much this. I want to replace my early 2011 MBP. I'm game for something around $2000-2500 USD. I need 16GB of ram and 512GB SSD now, but I want this computer to last 3-4 years and with soldered everything, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD would be much preferred. I don't really care about the dGPU, CPU speed is key for me (so processor upgrade are a plus). And what did Apple go and do? They jumped the price by 20%, made the dGPU standard on all 15", while keeping the inane 16GB RAM/256GB SSD option standard. So its about $200 for that dGPU and I guess $200 for that OLED bar, two things of very marginal usefulness for me.

Now to get a computer I'd really be at least half way happy with we're talking $2700. That's keeping my current 16GB of RAM and 512 SSD though.... what the holy heck would I do that for? I get that the SSD and RAM are faster than what I added to my 2011, but its still not MORE which is also very important.

Why do I feel like I'd have to compromise on a laptop that costs $3K after taxes? And to not compromise would cost $4K. Well actually its impossible because of the lack of a 32GB RAM option. Ummm.... what...?

 

[Meever]

For a primary laptop you should gun for the base 15".

Most states have a tax rate of 5%-10%

That's somewhere around $2700 after tax.

This is insane.

Only people who could justify the cost would be professionals who would benefit from the new I/O. But you'd have to shell out a ton of cash for new accessories and adapters.

 

[djlukass]

Exactly 8GB Ram and 256GB SSD, this was good 8 years ago. What a PRO can do with it?

 

[cap7ainclu7ch]

I hope it flops.

 

[myscrnnm]

Every year technology evolves and production costs decrease. Every year you get an iphone with better spec at the same price factor. Why should it be different for macbook pro? Your analysis dosn't make any sense, not his comment.

That would make sense if he was comparing base model to base model, which he isn't. He was comparing an old base config model to a new top spec model. Read the entire comment before you go off on people.

 

[StrawberryX]

I think a very expensive macbook pro is just bad.
These price are to much for graphic education students.
Everyone had a 15" G4 - 15" retina, they were about 2000 euro's,
sometime's even just under it.
But 3000 because you want some memory too. They don't pay 3000.
2300 - 2400 is about the max for a lot of people, and that is not cheap.

Camera's went up because of phones.
Computers kept become cheaper and faster, even when they sold a lot more, the technology just grew slower.
Apple seems to do what dslr's do for example, but those 3500 euro dslr are very pro,
these laptops are more of a statement, like the first air.

 

[Woodcrest64]

Hopefully in the next 2 or 3 years if I have to get a new Macbook Pro Apple will not offer the 256gb storage option on the 15" base model. :| I paid $2,429 CDN for my machine back in 2012 with 256GB storage. I can't see paying that again for 256gb storage today even with inflation.