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Update: when I force-exclude the music app from cellular network the battery consumption drops significantly by factor 6. See screenshot. User behavior stable over time.

Always taken into account that before and after I only listened to music from my iphones library. this is really messed up. If I listen to offline music the app should be offline by itself not by forcing me to be so

What happens when you're on wifi?
 
I like it. I've been using it since the Early iOS 8.4 Betas, so I'm used to it. But, for people new to iOS 8.4, it may take a while to navigate it.
 
If i had to pick between Spotify and AM right now, I'd choose Spotify because of the stability and much more intuitive layout. That said, I really like what Apple is trying to do. The curated playlists are a nice touch, and I like how they are all part of the search results.

If/when Apple irons things out, I think AM will be a true winner. We'll see if Spotify makes any changes between now and September. Even if Apple pulls ahead, Spotify might level the field again.

I'm happy to currently be on 90 days of Spotify for 99 cents and 90 days of AM for free. It'll give me a good bit of time to watch this play out.
 
If you're seeing iTunes purchases show up and without the little iPhone icon on them. Turn ON the option. (Off aka. Toggle not green means you will see stuff you've purchased or in the cloud not on your phone. Green toggle means only stuff on your phone will be seen.)

Off topic, but please tell me your username is in reference to the band Lagwagon.
 
I think the new interface looks quite nice, but it is indeed more complicated for non-techy people. One thing that drives me nuts is that the app crashes A LOT and is unresponsive on my iPad Air. It also kills the battery of my old 4S in no-time.
 
Another bug I spotted, songs I've just made available offline but not listened to have flooded my play queue history. Not able to find the song that actually last played because I was downloading music at the same time grrr

Also I'm getting slight glitches and hiccups in playback for most songs...

Come on apple music, I want to like you.

Bring on 8.4.1...
 
I think the new interface looks quite nice, but it is indeed more complicated for non-techy people. One thing that drives me nuts is that the app crashes A LOT and is unresponsive on my iPad Air. It also kills the battery of my old 4S in no-time.

I'm also seeing lots of crashing on my iPad Air. The iPhone 6 had been stable though. They definitely have work to do.

I'm getting the hang of navigating things though. At least on my iPhone I can explore without the crashing.
 
I think the new interface looks quite nice, but it is indeed more complicated for non-techy people. One thing that drives me nuts is that the app crashes A LOT and is unresponsive on my iPad Air. It also kills the battery of my old 4S in no-time.

Still on the fence upgrading to 8.4. I have the iPhone 4s so I was wondering did you to OTA or update from iTunes then restore from backup. I've notice most people with problems didn't wipe the device first, upgrade then restore from backup.
 
Still on the fence upgrading to 8.4. I have the iPhone 4s so I was wondering did you to OTA or update from iTunes then restore from backup. I've notice most people with problems didn't wipe the device first, upgrade then restore from backup.
I wiped the device, restored to 8.4 using the computer rather than OTA, and didn't restore from backup at all, yet Music bleeds my battery life on an iPhone 6 at a faster rate than I've ever seen. So no, a clean install won't protect you. (All Apple Music related functions are turned off, and while I have iTunes Match, I've only played what's already downloaded to the phone...zero streaming.)

What's more, when I use a third party app instead to play music already downloaded on my phone, Music continues to rise in the battery usage screen--third party apps are likely mostly a customer facing UI, while Music is actually doing the work of playing. This means that while using another app while set you free from Apple's odd design choices, it may not help at all with the battery issue.
 
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I wiped the device, restored to 8.4 using the computer rather than OTA, and didn't restore from backup at all, yet Music bleeds my battery life on an iPhone 6 at a faster rate than I've ever seen. So no, a clean install won't protect you. (All Apple Music related functions are turned off, and while I have iTunes Match, I've only played what's already downloaded to the phone...zero streaming.)

What's more, when I use a third party app instead to play music already downloaded on my phone, Music continues to rise in the battery usage screen--third party apps are likely mostly a customer facing UI, while Music is actually doing the work of playing. This means that while using another app while set you free from Apple's odd design choices, it may not help at all with the battery issue.

Thanks is it the same battery drain on the 4s?
 
As I posted before I tried 8.4 on my iPhone 5 and just didn't like the Music App, I could tell the iOS update was a lot smoother and didn't really have any problem except for the new Music App so after using it a couple days I ended up reverting back to 8.3. This morning I thought maybe I should try 8.4 again before Apple stops signing 8.3 which will probably be soon and thought now is my chance to try it again before deciding again to revert back.

So I downloaded the 8.4 again OTA iPhone 5, everything goes smoothly, open the new Music App and it must have remembered that I declined Apple Music because it was already set to off and even the connect tab at the bottom was gone and shows how I had it set up when I downloaded it the first time. The tabs at the bottom are My Music, Playlists and Radio.

My library consists of about 5,500 songs and most are my own CD's I imported, I'd say maybe 10% of that would be purchased music from iTunes so most of my collection is my own CD's of which I spent endless hours over the years scanning my own cover art 500x500 and importing them into my library so every album I have had original cover art and the resolution is spectacular. This was lots of time spent but I'm a perfectionist that way.

So after I downloaded 8.4 for the 2nd time, I decided to give the new music player a 2nd chance and spend more time with it to see if I can live with it. I have Show Apple Music set to off since I will not be joining Apple Music. I did do one more tweek that I had not done before. I set My Music to Albums but then I went into the Setting App then to Music then to Sort Albums By Artist. This sorted all my Artist's in alphabetical order with their albums grouped together in alphabetical order. I had not done that before and I like how this works because I can quickly go to a certain artist and then all their album titles are in alpha order and then click on the album I want and all the songs for that album are there. I also notice that the shuffle button is right there while your in the album so you can shuffle the songs right there no need to do that on the slider (now playing area) the shuffle is in both places something I didn't notice before.

So far I'm been using the new music player for a few hours today and for some odd reason I don't see my battery dropping like it did before. So something is different and my phone is not getting warm either like it did before. The one thing I do really like about the new player is how they have used the color of the artwork as your background color instead of 8.3 that just used white.

So I'm going to try the Music App again for a few more days and see how it goes, maybe I just didn't give it enough time before and with the tweeks I made this time might work better for me. I won't be using Apple Music so all that will remain off since I don't need Apple telling me what music I need to be listening to and I'd never pay a subscription to listen to my music. That's just me.
 
stop whining there is a guide and it's free.

apple-user-guide.jpg
 
I really like Apple music but those laggs, crashes are so annoying. Lagging not only via Music app but starts lagging everything on iPhone...
 
What annoyed me was I set up Apple Music on my 5s and added a load of albums into My Music.

I have these albums on iTunes as MP3's but as a long time Spotify user I've stopped syncing physical files to my devices long ago. Anyway I update OS X and enable Apple Music in iTunes only to go back to my 5s and see that it's merged the albums I have on iTunes with the albums I added to My Music, which means I have doubles of some albums and the ones it's carried over from iTunes have the wrong album art on most of them too.
 
Does your phone also lag when exiting the music app? Try pressing the home button while in the music app and than quickly try to change the page on the home screen.

Edit: seems like it's not all the time and mainl when streaming music.
 
Does your phone also lag when exiting the music app? Try pressing the home button while in the music app and than quickly try to change the page on the home screen.

Edit: seems like it's not all the time and mainl when streaming music.

I get the same thing.
 
Major, major, major problems today.

Genius Playlists have been disappearing from iTunes since yesterday. Album artwork went missing from the majority of my albums this morning after I made a slight change to one.

I fixed the album covers issue by removing all music from syncing, syncing, then rechecking it, and syncing everything back. And that just finished now after a hour.

*YAWN*
 
In the settings I have Apple Music turned off. This removes the "For you" tab and a bunch of other guff but doesn't remove references to starting stations.
http://i.imgur.com/WNYkJsr.png

The "radio" tab remains, which for the most part is fine, but it still includes links/images for all the other curated stations instead of only showing Beats1. If I try to start one of those stations I get a confusing error saying that it cannot be started right now. Presumably this is simply because it knows I don't have an Apple Music account.

http://i.imgur.com/3hr3s9m.png

What the app should do is either remove those stations entirely or at the very least grey them out and if clicked the error should say "You need an Apple Music account to play this station".

http://i.imgur.com/4NclAvJ.png

A similar issue is the redundant options in the hamburger/dots menu for every single artist/album/song. Without an Apple Music account I cannot use this feature and I get an ambiguous error as well. These options should be hidden unless someone is a premium account holder.

The 'Make songs available offline' option appears on tracks that are already on the device.v

http://i.imgur.com/LoGRVj9.png

The radio thing is a pain, I should be be able to turn it off it it requires Apple Music and I haven't subscribed.
 
I gave up and downgraded to 8.3, not just over Music, but several things. And I have to say both iPad and iPhone feel quite a bit smoother compared to when they were on 8.4.

Apple is still signing 8.3--if you want to go back to a more comfortable experience, better do it now while you can, because that signing window can close at any time. There are tutorials on the web if you need to know how to do it; just be aware that you generally can't restore from an 8.4 backup (I still had an 8.3 available to work with on the iPad.)

I'll go back to 8.4 (and Cesium) when Apple releases some fixes. But if I wanted to bug test on my primary devices, I'd be on the iOS 9 beta, not this beta-in-disguise.
 
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