But Qualcomm actually has reason to take Apple to court... @kdarling if you don't mind taking a minute out of your day to explain better than I ever could?
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New Samsung Galaxy Ad Makes Fun of iPhone X's Notch, Lack of Stylus Support, Dongles, and More
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Phone looks like crap? Try putting an iPhone X and an s8 side to side. Don’t be so arrogant to realize that Samsung actually makes it’s own components while Apple has to come to them to make displays.
Quarterly earnings matter as a benchmark for popularity, not good UX/product design.
And, what's the most disappointing about it, is that good experience design (that made Apple famous in the first place) apparently does NOT matter to a lot people, so Cook & co can carry on having a field day releasing one patchy beta product after another
PS. The ad gave me a good chuckle, but it won't turn me towards Samsung. It simply underlined how fed up I've felt with iPhones for years. I've had high hopes for this year's releases (LG G6, S8, Pixel 2, yes the iPhone X too) but it's just not possible to buy a handset that doesn't present the user with a tradeoff of some sort. So, I'm still using my 6S and the 7 provided by the office. And probably the 6S is the last iDevice I'll buy on my own volition.
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I don't think thats true. Samsung is a publicly traded company on eh Korean exchange and in London. They can't just not report sales.
Cool as me? Huh? Been drinking the Applejuice too early this morning? I am not saying anyone is wrong for liking Apple, as it works for its userbase, as Android works for its userbase. Same with Microsoft, Linux, and so forth. All I was getting at is, options are great to have. Just cause someone has brand loyalty, doesn't mean they offer the best choice for them. Many people on this forum have blinders on, and repeat arguments from many, many, years ago, to try and justify their reasoning.
I won both the X (and LTE smartwatch) and the Note 8 and Frontier S3 watch.
Every year, I have the latest iOS device and the latest Android device (Note series last several years). My main phone and one as a "secondary" device. Every year since 2008-ish, iPhone has been the main device.
This is the first year I am struggling to decide which to use as primary. Android on the Note 8 is as smooth as iOS is, probably for the first time, and its quite stable. iOS apps tend to be better overall, but the Frontier S3 watch, quite frankly, blows away the Apple watch away in functionality and apps. That round interface and dial beats the little scroll wheel.
I also like the Note 8 has a total of 464GB of storage, thanks to Sandisk's new 400GB microSD card. I was disappointed the X didn't match the iPad Pro in 512GB storage. In any case, its really a tough choice this year.
To each their own, but anyone who says both devices aren't great devices, in different ways, is just kidding themselves - or trying to justify NOT choosing one of them.
Every year, I have the latest iOS device and the latest Android device (Note series last several years). My main phone and one as a "secondary" device. Every year since 2008-ish, iPhone has been the main device.
This is the first year I am struggling to decide which to use as primary. Android on the Note 8 is as smooth as iOS is, probably for the first time, and its quite stable. iOS apps tend to be better overall, but the Frontier S3 watch, quite frankly, blows away the Apple watch away in functionality and apps. That round interface and dial beats the little scroll wheel.
I also like the Note 8 has a total of 464GB of storage, thanks to Sandisk's new 400GB microSD card. I was disappointed the X didn't match the iPad Pro in 512GB storage. In any case, its really a tough choice this year.
To each their own, but anyone who says both devices aren't great devices, in different ways, is just kidding themselves - or trying to justify NOT choosing one of them.
It’s obvious I hit a vein and you haven’t had your coffee yet. If there was no truth to what I am saying when why “doth protest too much?”
That's fair, the point that I was getting to is Samsung's overall stance of comparing hardware without comparing software which is one of the biggest factors in decision to switch platforms, they don't seem to appreciate the friction associated with switching OS platform and the associated ecosystem. Samsung seems to think that throwing hardware and kitchen sink at software UI and performance issues will provide a good user experience, which so far doesn't seemed to have worked.
And they have little control on hardware and software synergy and all the efficiency that it affords, leaving them to primary focus on hardware in their advertising and business model.
Apparently facts do not matter here. Not to mention we have to remember this is a mac forum. Oh and a phone is a very personal item for many so attacking their phone is like attacking their identity.
I will agree that Apple needs to transition from Lightning to USB-C. Not their fault that they developed Lightning; but it's time to change.
However, you are dead-wrong about the "Sideloading" thing. Individuals have been able to Sideload Apps on iOS since iOS 8. It's just not very well known.
You can either do it with XCode, if someone publishes the Source (which many have), or you can use the Freeware "Cydia Impactor" to install and Run ".ipa" Files. And with Impactor, you don't even need a Mac.
And all this is completely legit. No Jailbreaking, no special Licensing. Nothing.
http://www.cydiaimpactor.com/
Oh, and I'm pretty sure Apple tried the multiple apps on a phone thing, and laughed it out of the room.
As for FLAC support, you really DO need to keep up...
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/09/14/iphone-x-hardware-flac-codec/
And as far as OLEDs go, there were three major barriers to adoption:
1. Samsung owns a BUNCH of Patents on OLED and AMOLED, and pretty much leads the industry in good color OLED panels.
2. (Related to #1) Samsung wasn't really interested in selling their precious OLED panels (which have yield problems to begin with) to their largest competitor, at anything like a reasonable price.
3. OLEDs have only very recently become reliable enough to be a serious replacement for a phone/iPod that is expected to last several years.
The way I see it you tout what’s great and not what isn’t. Apple used to talk about fragmentation when their numbers were good. They’re still good but not as amazingly good. I’ve noticed this is no longer a talking point with them.
It’s also hard to objectively state, particularly in a 30-60 second ad, that your software is better/different. I guess we can argue taking notes with the S pen is showcasing the marriage of software versus hardware, for better or for worse.
St the end of the day I honestly don’t believe the software argument holds much water anyway. Things are about on par there these days. Everyone shouting from the rooftops that Android is garbage or iOS is limited are just super fans. My opinions of course.
"Bionic" is branding. Again, it's a new chip. Developers haven't taken advantage of it. Are you disputing its raw power based on benchmarks? Save that "benchmarks are useless" comback as it's just a tool to prove the potential is there. iOS 11 has its issues and is yet to be optimized for the new phones. You really think Apple "forgot" how to make chips and optimize an OS from the iPhone 7 which has been faster in speed tests than iPhone 8? They will get it right and it's not slouch right now. iOS 11.1 already improved things quite a bit.
Android is more of a monopoly OS than Apple...they have over 85% market share.
I laughed at the ad. I think Samsung is desperate to change the minds of people who don't care about the message they are trying to portray. The only relevant dig was the notch because the rest of the stuff is already in the current iPhone. I honestly think these ads are good for Apple. The more talk, the better.
I do actually like Samsung phones...I hate Android. It's fragmented and not updated. I owned Android since 2008 and just switched to iPhone X because of sick of 0 support, buggy OS, slow phones, and terrible battery life.
They are portraying the stylus as if that's a plus. I do believe that a stylus can have practical applications on a tablet for such activities as illustrating, but why would you want it for writing notes on a phone? It's much easier and faster two type phone numbers and messages on the keyboard.
When Android is relatively comparable to the user experience that iOS has and the speed to complete tasks; that's when I will REALLY consider jumping ship.
Microsoft, Google, Samsung have amazing hardware that sometimes is so much better and cheaper than Apple's. Unfortunately their OS's are crap.
That’s the rub. Sure they don’t sell as much as Apple but companies would kill for the profit Samsung has and yet they can’t seem to get out of Apple’s shadow.
Pretty sure Samsung has much bigger market share than Apple worldwide in smartphones? Unless you mean in the US only.
The Samsung Note 8 looks very similar to the iPhone X (in case you haven't actually seen both), and Android? You mean the phone OS used by over 80% of smartphone users? I'm thinking you are suddenly in the minority in your thinking.
That’s how dumb they are lol and wired headphones are honestly a thing of the past. Charging plus headphones is going to look weird coming out a phone ether way, nice try Samsung.
Yeah but it's my opinion I used android for years (Galaxy S3, LG 2X HD, Experia S) and nothing can make me go use android again. The thought of it... brrr...
People who've just spent $1200 on an iPhone X will understandably be a little more likely to interpret anything other than abject praise as a "slam".
So what? Apple's display is way better. It's made to Apple's specifications. Samsung produced OLED's for years and what? they all had bluish greenish tint and unrealistically pumped up saturation. Even S8+ -which is one of the best looking phones out there- has a screen with that unrealistic color tone. Ans Note8's camera area looks like crap... it's so white collar design.
People criticize iPhone X -which I will never buy- notch but that notch is what it separates that phone from the others. All android phones (except s8+ and Xiomi something) are look a-likes. Apple's implementation may not be the best but I applaud them for being balls of steel about this.
Come on, really? - We both know that if you publish the source code of your app (thus giving out all your intellectual property) that people can use xcode to load it on to their iPhone device. No developer in their right mind (of which I am one) would do that. Giving out my source code just so I can sell apps on my own site instead of through the App Store, out of the question.
As for cydiaimpactor, yeah lets all put a root certificate on our phone, great advice there. These are ridiculous rebuttals from you, sorry but they are.
I'm aware that the phones hardware and iOS has FLAC support. The Music app however does not, which is exactly what I said. By the way neither does iTunes. So syncing those songs to the Music app is impossible. You can play them in the Files app if you sync them through Dropbox or iCloud but who is going to play songs from that? - It's not a great experience.
Samsung makes the OLED display on the iPhone X for Apple. Had Samsung not kept pushing OLED into the future Apple would never have had a viable way to bring it to the iPhone X at all. It was Samsungs innovation that has allowed this specific screen to be used on the iPhone X.
The alternatives like LG? - Well look how that worked out for the Pixel 2. If this was some argument against Samsung I think you really failed here, Apple did basically nothing and just waited for Samsung to do all the work. Same could be said for Apples use of Sony sensors on their iPhones instead of developing their own camera sensors.