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I don't think thats true. Samsung is a publicly traded company on eh Korean exchange and in London. They can't just not report sales.

They report sales of all phones lumped together. That’s why their ASP is in the low $200 range. Most of those sales are sub $100 devices, not flagships.

Apple is a publicly traded company, yet they don’t report Watch sales. Samsung also doesn't report sales for many of their products.
 
can someone explain how writing down a contact is much better than typing it in?

- you need two hands
- you need a stylus
- looks wildly uncomfortable to write without some palm rest
- unless there's some "google magic" going on, you can't search for that contact (EDIT: yes i know OCR exist, but you need to take extra steps to file it as a contact instead of saving as a note)
- looks unorganized
- much slower to write vs typing
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  • It depends on who you are, writing can be much faster for many people than typing.
  • You absolutely can search handwritten notes (depending on the app you use).
  • The stylus actually has many benefits over trying to draw something by hand, no it isn't always used, but it is nice to have it when you need it.
  • Some apps will also automatically create contacts as you write the information in.
  • It is also very handy to be able to pull out a stylus and take a note without having to unlock the phone and start an app first.
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I won both the X (and LTE smartwatch) and the Note 8 and Frontier S3 watch.

Every year, I have the latest iOS device and the latest Android device (Note series last several years). My main phone and one as a "secondary" device. Every year since 2008-ish, iPhone has been the main device.

This is the first year I am struggling to decide which to use as primary. Android on the Note 8 is as smooth as iOS is, probably for the first time, and its quite stable. iOS apps tend to be better overall, but the Frontier S3 watch, quite frankly, blows away the Apple watch away in functionality and apps. That round interface and dial beats the little scroll wheel.

I also like the Note 8 has a total of 464GB of storage, thanks to Sandisk's new 400GB microSD card. I was disappointed the X didn't match the iPad Pro in 512GB storage. In any case, its really a tough choice this year.

To each their own, but anyone who says both devices aren't great devices, in different ways, is just kidding themselves - or trying to justify NOT choosing one of them.
In different ways? Really? the iPhone X is essentially the Note 8 without the Stylus or Fingerprint Sensor, seriously compare the two side by side and tell me that isn't the case.
 
Samsung's ads is brutally honest because Apple does enough questionable decisions to be made fun of. If Apple was more innovative as of late, those ads won't happen. Samsung is showing a mirror to Apple's faults the last six years.

It's like Simon Cowell. He was actually the best judge in American Idol because he was HONEST. He didn't sugarcoat it like Paula and Randy did.

I don't find this Samsung vs Apple rivalry to be bitter at all. Apple's rivalry with Microsoft was worse. Some kids here don't remember how low Apple became in the mid-1990's. Way before iPod and iPhone.

Many kids here only know Apple starting with those iDevices. Apple was a joke before no different than Samsung was when Sony was the Apple AND Samsung before them.

Remember when Bill Gates face appeared on the big screen in January 1997? You can hear the boos and shock of disgust. I had a classmate my freshman year who was a computer nerd who would call Macs, Macintrash. This was after Windows 95 was released.

I look at Samsung and Apple partners in crime and best frenemies. They help each other out. Same with Google. These ads is like a comedy roast. Will trigger sensitive fans. I'm just surprised Samsung wants to do it now.

Remember when posters called the iPhone X the iPhone S8? Samsung is a minor shareholder for the X. It should be rooting for it to sell 130M or more. Samsung will make more money on the X than their S8.
 
Actually I did forget all of those. Odd that you’d remember. Maybe only Samsung fans keep track of these.

Heck, I remember everyone's ads. But then, it's my job to be aware of all kinds of smartphones.

As for forgetting those particular ones, well sure, that was six years ago. Which is when they were effective.

Yet once reminded, you know what I'm talking about. So yes, they're memorable in that way. Likewise most people today can't remember all the "I'm a Mac" ads, but usually can once reminded. Doesn't mean they weren't effective at the time.

Boosted sales? You have any proof that shows their sakes were boosted as a direct result of these ads? Thought so.

The fact that their ad campaign had a big effect was widely known at the time. It helped increase the ad budgets of everyone across the board in the US. Even Apple boosted its ad budget in response.

As Business Insider put it:

"Things started to change with the first “Next Big Thing” spot. Just like Apple poked fun at Microsoft with its “I’m a Mac” campaign in the 2000s, Samsung’s goal was to tap into the same strategy — a little guy taking swings at the dominant player in the industry — and for a while it worked.

"By the end of 2012, Samsung's profits were up a whopping 76%, fueled by the growth of the mobile division, which suddenly became the most profitable part of Samsung. Samsung was the only company other than Apple making a profit in mobile, and it seemed to be closing in on Apple’s dominance, prompting The Wall Street Journal to publish its famous “Has Apple Lost Its Cool To Samsung?” headline in January 2013."
 
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Some Answers (in order):

- You need two hands to type most things - one hand to hold the phone.
- A Stylus can be a very versatile tool - I'd love to have Pencil Support on an iPhone
- Doesn't look uncomfortable
- The search/handwriting recognition technology is there - don't worry about it.
- Depends how you file it - you still have to file contacts if you want to keep things accessible quickly.
- Not really - especially if you're typing with one hand as in your first point.

Bonus answer. You don't have to write with a stylus, but it's good to have the option.

- screenshot shows the man typing in the contacts with only one hand.
- i wouldn't want pencil support on an iphone. rather have the production budget going towards something else like a promotion display
- writing without palm rest is uncomfortable from my experience. try writing a page of words without resting your palm
- filing that samsung note as contacts adds extra steps
- i can type faster with one hand than what you can do with a stylus.
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Hey, I got Japan on the phone here. They're laughing, but I keep hearing the word "infrared" mentioned.
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That's not even close to how the Note works. Here's how it works: While the phone is off, pull out S-pen, write name & phone number down on the screen. Put the pen away. Done. When you're ready to call that person, open up the written note and call the number directly from there.

that's terrible. so writing your contact "as a note" means:
- you can't use smart assistants to call that person
- you now have two places to search: contact vs notes library
- your contact isn't synced via gmail. so if you were on your computer, you wouldn't be able to find that contact (at least not that easily)

so no, i rather have my contacts filed under the contact library instead of in my notes.
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I think this a proof of concept. You can show data entry in a moment here versus something like a classroom setting taking notes would take more time to convey in a commercial. When you’re commercial cost is by the millisecond (idk exactly how they’re billed but I know the longer the commercial the more expensive), that makes a lot of sense.


if that were the case, probably writing down and comparing chemistry notes would make more sense since that involves a lot more drawing.
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  • It depends on who you are, writing can be much faster for many people than typing.
  • You absolutely can search handwritten notes (depending on the app you use).
  • The stylus actually has many benefits over trying to draw something by hand, no it isn't always used, but it is nice to have it when you need it.
  • Some apps will also automatically create contacts as you write the information in.
  • It is also very handy to be able to pull out a stylus and take a note without having to unlock the phone and start an app first.

- drawing diagrams? sure, writing is a lot faster. but writing down things that a keyboard can do? keyboard is generally faster than handwriting. just compare WPM on a keyboard vs handwriting and you'll see keyboard is much faster (unless you're fairly new to typing)
- but it won't be filed and sync with your gmail contacts. which means you can't call using smart assistants or grab that contact easily on a computer
- it's nice for drawing diagrams like i mentioned previously, but not for contact taking
- these apps are a lot slower than doing it the regular way. it took me a little over 10 seconds to create a new contact. i dont think using handwriting + OCR is faster/easier
- looks easy enough on the iphone: https://cl.ly/nWAD
 
- screenshot shows the man typing in the contacts with only one hand.
- i wouldn't want pencil support on an iphone. rather have the production budget going towards something else like a promotion display
- writing without palm rest is uncomfortable from my experience. try writing a page of words without resting your palm
- filing that samsung note as contacts adds extra steps
- i can type faster with one hand than what you can do with a stylus.
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that's terrible. so writing your contact "as a note" means:
- you can't use smart assistants to call that person
- you now have two places to search: contact vs notes library
- your contact isn't synced via gmail. so if you were on your computer, you wouldn't be able to find that contact (at least not that easily)

so no, i rather have my contacts filed under the contact library instead of in my notes.
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if that were the case, probably writing down and comparing chemistry notes would make more sense since that involves a lot more drawing.
I disagree. Not everyone understand what chemistry notes are. Everyone has added a contact to their device.

It’s an ad with a few seconds to show and compare specific features. They’re paying for every second of screen time.

I mentioned taking notes in a class setting would be the ideal way to showcase this. But again, it’s an ad and there are serious time constraints.

Anyway the point is you can hand write things on the note and you can’t (really) on an iPhone. The ad makes that pretty crystal clear. And I’m sure that was the point of it.

I found the dongle example to be more ridiculous personally despite the fact that I’m still bitter about losing the headphone jack. That’s such a ridiculously specific scenario that they chose to show us lol. Sitting on a couch watching a movie with your phone and headphones plugged in? Ok... hahaha
 
I disagree. Not everyone understand what chemistry notes are. Everyone has added a contact to their device.

It’s an ad with a few seconds to show and compare specific features. They’re paying for every second of screen time.

I mentioned taking notes in a class setting would be the ideal way to showcase this. But again, it’s an ad and there are serious time constraints.

Anyway the point is you can hand write things on the note. The ad makes that pretty crystal clear. And I’m sure that was the point of it.

I found the single example to be more ridiculous personally despite the fact that I’m still bitter about losing the headphone jack. That’s such a ridiculously specific scenario that they chose to show us lol.

you don't need to understand chemistry (or even calculus, biology, etc...) notes to get that taking graphical notes with a stylus is a lot better than without a stylus
they could have showed the man and the girl in a classroom sitting next to each other and comparing notes (man's notes would be all text, but the girl's notes would be all graphical and nicely drawn)
 
Bull. Something as simple as a new type of ad blocker could wipe Google out overnight.

Every year there’s another so-called iPhone killer, yet none of them ever come close to knocking Apple off their #1 position.
You don't agree with me and call it "Bull" but concede that, your words, "Every year there’s another so-called iPhone killer" so obviously the iPhone is being challenged for the top slot yet every year there isn't "Something as simple as a new type of ad blocker" that can in your mind "wipe Google out overnight". Why is that? Is it because you're talking rubbish?
 
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you don't need to understand chemistry (or even calculus, biology, etc...) notes to get that taking graphical notes with a stylus is a lot better than without a stylus
they could have showed the man and the girl in a classroom sitting next to each other and comparing notes (man's notes would be all text, but the girl's notes would be all graphical and nicely drawn)
Ok. Well you should contact Samsung about potentially being better at marketing their product than they are? Idk what to tell you. I think the average person watching this ad isn’t going to think as critically about this as you are. And people understand what’s familiar to them. Contacts in a phone are familiar.

With the note you have the option to hand write things. This was demonstrated. I’m guessing that was exactly the goal.
 
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You don't agree with me and call it "Bull" but concede that, your words, "Every year there’s another so-called iPhone killer" so obviously the iPhone is being challenged for the top slot yet every year there isn't "Something as simple as a new type of ad blocker" that can in your mind "wipe Google out overnight". Why is that? Is it because you're talking rubbish?

iPhone outsells Samsung Galaxy S and Note Series by several times over. That’s a simple fact.
 
Cool story bro. As king of Spain, I say this commercial is hilarious.

Well Sire Bro, My website is www.prowl.co.uk (as per my username ) check it out.

Of course it’s funny, I don’t deny that... just rule number 1 in advertising don’t show competitors logos and products more than yours!

The notch haircut at the end is inspired tho!
 
Pretty good ad. Sucks that it's impossible to add Samsung's other strengths over the years in an advertisement. Like one of the first with multiwindow, access to do whatever you want your phone to do without jailbreaking, larger battery, microsd card, more durable, etc etc.
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Because they make enough. If you don't think Apple limits the amount of available iPhones on launch to create demand, you're crazy.


People wait in line, some for days, because they want to be first. I'm not stating the other products aren't good, I'm stating a fact that people like Apple iPhones so much they're willing to stand in line regardless of inventory. They want the experience and they want to be first. Everyone who waited in line got their phones before UPS/FEDEx made any deliveries. So they were first. Did it matter? Not really but they were happy to do it. I'm not sure why you need to either defend the other brand or **** on iPhones, but it's typical of other underlying, more serious psychological issues.
 
It’s sad when a company as big as Samsung has to resort to slagging off the iPhone in their adverts. If they believe their phones are superior, why not have your new ad focus on the tech, its specs, its design, instead of bashing the competition. It just seems so petty. :p
The ad is targeted towards people who are unhappy with their iPhones. This is an emotional play to make people feel like they belong in the Samsung camp. Talking about features won't win them over.
 
Well Sire Bro, My website is www.prowl.co.uk (as per my username ) check it out.

Of course it’s funny, I don’t deny that... just rule number 1 in advertising don’t show competitors logos and products more than yours!

The notch haircut at the end is inspired tho!

Ha, I didn't get what that haircut was. So funny. Ad is totally funny. Those are all relatively common experiences of being an iPhone (or any smartphone) user over the last decade. The rice, the dongles, ha, so funny. And nice looking couple, well cast.

But I'm still buying an iPhone X.
 
This is incorrect. They do it to lock you into the ecosystem. They want you paying for icloud storage. What a ripoff.
Yeah, Apple's really making bank on iCloud Storage... NOT!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201238

https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/06/a...loud-storage-plan-to-2tb-adds-family-sharing/

Seriously? $3/mo. for enough storage to essentially backup an entire chock-full iPhone X? That's a money-grab?

And for that, you get not only a big, backed-up drive in the sky; but also automatic Backups with end to end encryption. Lose your iPhone. No Problem! Just Wipe it and Reload the new one from your iCloud Backup.

https://support.apple.com/kb/PH12520?locale=en_US&viewlocale=en_US
 



Samsung today posted a new video on its YouTube channel called "Samsung Galaxy: Growing Up," which follows the life of a young man as he purchases Apple devices over the course of ten years, and then decides to switch sides to Samsung on the eve of the iPhone X launch. The 1-minute commercial features the song "I'm Moving On" by Chyvonne Scott.

The video begins at the iPhone launch in 2007, and subsequent years show the main character facing storage issues when taking a photo and waiting in long lines under poor weather conditions for the latest iPhone. At one point, he drops his iPhone in water and has to place it in a bowl of rice, while his girlfriend's Samsung device continues to function.


Other points made in the ad center around the iPhone's lack of stylus support, as well as its need for dongles after the removal of the 3.5mm headphone jack in the iPhone 7. The ad ends with the character's decision to turn off his iPhone and purchase a Samsung Galaxy smartphone, and he eventually walks past a line of people waiting for the iPhone X -- including a guy with a notch-like haircut -- without joining them.

The latest Samsung smartphone is the Galaxy Note 8, which launched in September with dual rear cameras, a 6.3-inch AMOLED 'Infinity Display', and a new and enhanced S Pen with improved pressure sensitivity. Many publications favorably reviewed the Note 8 prior to its launch, agreeing that the lack of an explosive battery made Samsung's newest device a step up from the Note 7.

Article Link: New Samsung Galaxy Ad Makes Fun of iPhone X's Notch, Lack of Stylus Support, Dongles, and More

Story of this ad:

1 – Guy buys multiple iPhones that bring him joy
2 – Guy switches to Samsung
3 – The end:

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Except it's been in Samsung phones for years, which is the point of this commercial, Iphones are always catching up.

Then why does Samsung need to say it?

If Samsung knows they've had features that iPhones don't have... what's the point of this commercial?

It's almost like Samsung isn't confident enough... like they're trying to make themselves feel good.

That's weird behavior from the #1 smartphone manufacturer in the world.

Samsung sells more smartphones than any other OEM on the planet... so what is the point of this commercial again?
 
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