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Everyone compares Samsung's ads to Apple's "Mac vs PC" ads.

But here's the deal... Apple was in the weaker position when they were "attacking" the other guys.

So what does that say about Samsung right now?

I'd say Samsung is (still) scared of Apple.

I don't think companies have fear... that is a human emotion.

What does this ad about Samsung, it says they have a sense of humor. Someone who is afraid, doesn't poke at the thing they are afraid of. Apple used to have a real sense of humor. Now its senior executives doing animojis. That's not funny (to me).

It is also revealing something about Apple and Samsung. If it took Apple this long to get a new design half to market (no plus yet), how long will it be before the next design or the next new feature. You better like the X if you are an Apple fan, because based on how long it took to get it out, it is likely to be a 4-5 year run. Samsung and others are already moving on and Apple just got to this step.

Apple doesn't promote the benchmarks...I was telling you the chip is powerful. The most powerful.

Apple released iOS 11 too early, absolutely. But at least they'll update it (very quickly, already released 4 updates) and will get it right. 11.1 is already miles better than 11.0. Samsung gave me absolute crap for 3 years, never fixed it, and didn't care at all.

The most powerful, and yet in a head to head test the Note 8 beat the X on most real world scenarios.

Samsung gave me crap too a few years ago. But today its 2017, and they gave me a brilliant device that works without having through several software updates to "get it right".

Does the ad cover the GeekBench benchmark that shows the iPhone X slaughters the Galaxy S8?

I don't know, does the ad show how in spite of the benchmark "slaughter", that in real world applications the X lost to the Note 8? I didn't buy it to run benchmarks. I bought it to use as a smartphone.
 
Well typical lame Samsung. Thanks for the free Apple advertisement though. Even the last scene was wrong as it made it look like the iPhone had no wireless charging....

So there was actually a number of falsehoods in it... and to the person who said IPhones can’t dodual output Bluetooth... yes it can. It has Bluetooth 5.0 and maybe it’s not active yet but if it isn’t it should be when the HomePod is out.

And just FYI Samsung and others will be spending the next few years trying to copy this years iPhone X features
 
i thought the notch haircut was funny. wish we didn't need a dongle and could have easier fast charging. both great devices.
 
Would’ve LOVED to see Samsung making fun of Animoji - curious why they did not.

Because it would have instantly reminded the viewer that Samsung has no WORKING FaceID, and that you can do something FUN with the iPhone that Samsung can't touch..

We’ll see how many switched from Apple to Samsung SGS 8 / Note 8

Actually, I wonder how many people in THESE lines are Samsung "Switchers". THAT's what Samsung is really worried about...

http://bgr.com/2017/11/03/iphone-x-release-date-apple-store-lines-crowd-photos/


Wonder where the pictures off all the Samsung Lines are? Oh, right.... Looks like THESE are the only "Lines" that the Galaxy Note 8 is generating, LOL!

https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...ndom-led-line-in-middle-of-screen/td-p/180222

https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...Note-8-Horizontal-lines-on-screen/td-p/190499
 
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The Samsung Note 8 looks very similar to the iPhone X (in case you haven't actually seen both), and Android? You mean the phone OS used by over 80% of smartphone users? I'm thinking you are suddenly in the minority in your thinking.

I dont think they even look close. The Samsung has a wrap around display, is longer, thinner, squared edges, and has a stylus. Nice try.
 
It's nice to hear confirmation of Samsung being weaker.

So all the checkbox features Samsung had that Apple didn't all these years... it turns out... none of that really matters, huh.

I say... let Samsung keep saying how Galaxy is better than the iPhone.

Now we know Samsung doesn't actually believe it. :p

There's obviously more to it than just a list of features...
OK yours is a ******** argument.

You just breezed past the fact that you're OK when Apple does something like Samsung because it's excusable but when Samsung does it they should conduct themselves better.

You take joy in:
"It's nice to hear confirmation of Samsung being weaker."
You mean being in a weaker position? Like Apple is in a weaker with desktop operating systems?
Does that make you smug and happy that Microsoft is doing better?
 
At the end of the day I pick the product from the company that isn't the single-largest, most entrenched data mining company on the planet.
[doublepost=1510010612][/doublepost]I do find it humorous that the Android/Samsung crowd is even in here. Must be a lot of insecurity going on.
 
iMessage..... FaceTime.....

Regardless.... the iPhone X is FASTER.... and by a wide margin.
What a dumb response but hey I can sink to your level: how well does the iPhone X do with Samsung Pay, Bigbsby, Health, Notes, Gallery etc. GUESS WHAT BOTH PLATFORMS HAVE APPS UNIQUE TO THE PHONE so no benchmark test has any comparable meaning.

And by the way you never pointed out one app that the iPhone can run that that's available for android that the Samsung phones can't.
 
It may have been a good showcase for Apple, but besides the exploding battery (which is in my opinion irrelevant now after a year) Samsung holds its own. I can't help but feel like Apple is subtlety implementing some of the same features that Most iPhone fans have been poking fun at Samsung phones for, like bigger phones and screens: iPhones just keep getting bigger to be able to keep up with the competition and more screen to bezel ratio. Some make fun at having a stylus but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple's "next big thing" is an integrated stylus.
 
At the end of the day I pick the product from the company that isn't the single-largest, most entrenched data mining company on the planet.
[doublepost=1510010612][/doublepost]I do find it humorous that the Android/Samsung crowd is even in here. Must be a lot of insecurity going on.

Entrenched data mining company? Where did you read this?
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iMessage..... FaceTime.....

Regardless.... the iPhone X is FASTER.... and by a wide margin.

Thats as silly as saying Apple can't run Samsung Pay. Man what lame arguments. This thread is over the top.
 
OK yours is a ******** argument.

You just breezed past the fact that you're OK when Apple does something like Samsung because it's excusable but when Samsung does it they should conduct themselves better.

You take joy in:
"It's nice to hear confirmation of Samsung being weaker."
You mean being in a weaker position? Like Apple is in a weaker with desktop operating systems?
Does that make you smug and happy that Microsoft is doing better?

Everybody can admit that Apple was in a weaker position when they made the Mac vs PCs ads.

The news here is that Samsung must be in a weaker position with the Galaxy vs iPhone ads.

For years it was "look at all the features Galaxy has that iPhone doesn't"

But that list is getting shorter.

Apple is "catching up" just like everyone says they always do... but things must really be getting dire for Samsung.

That must be why Samsung is reviving old arguments like "look at all the people who stand in line for iPhones..."

Samsung is running out of things to talk about. :)
 
I know lots of folks who are loyal to the Note line. Which is why Apple is developing its own note competitor with stylus.
Really? Where did you hear that b.s.? Apple has had SEVERAL generations to "think about it", and even developed a Stylus for the iPad Pro. And from what I have heard, the scan-rate of the iPhone X's Digitizer is the same 120 Hz that the iPad Pro uses in Stylus-Mode.

So, if Apple wanted to equip their PHONES with a Stylus, it would have been a fait accompli a few years ago. But Apple knows the difference between a phone with a largish screen, and a true Tablet. And so do their Users.
 
Agreed. I had a note 4 and the stylus was so impractical. It's like writing with a tiny pencil.
That's how I thought about it with my PDA.

And it isn't like Apple hasn't had "Stylus" experience. Look at the Newton. Seriously.
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mThis might appear to be a good ad for iPhone, but only MR users think that. The masses will respond (...) -features sell.

So do iPhone Xs, apparently:

http://bgr.com/2017/11/03/iphone-x-release-date-apple-store-lines-crowd-photos/
 
Everybody can admit that Apple was in a weaker position when they made the Mac vs PCs ads.

The news here is that Samsung must be in a weaker position with the Galaxy vs iPhone ads.
:)
Look we're dancing around that fact it's OK to be the weaker position. Apple is (desktop computing), Samsung is (phones); so what? it doesn't make each product weaker if you enjoy it.
 
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Everybody can admit that Apple was in a weaker position when they made the Mac vs PCs ads.

The news here is that Samsung must be in a weaker position with the Galaxy vs iPhone ads.

For years it was "look at all the features Galaxy has that iPhone doesn't"

But that list is getting shorter.

Apple is "catching up" just like everyone says they always do... but things must really be getting dire for Samsung.

That must be why Samsung is reviving old arguments like "look at all the people who stand in line for iPhones..."

Samsung is running out of things to talk about. :)

Can't you people get past the idea that it was an advertisement? Companies compete. Companies sue each other. Companies report to shareholders. Companies are in the business of making money. They are not concerned with your "feelings".

We all know the smartphone business is ultra competitive. A company will do whatever it takes to make money. That includes Apple and Samsung, or the guy down the street selling tires for that matter. He's going to tell his customers to buy from him and not Harry down the street.

This argument, that it's "Jealousy", "Dire conditions", "Desperation", is just a ridiculous argument with no basis in fact. I understand you guys and gals love your phones, but really why denounce something just because it competes? Look at it this way, for all the jabs Samsung took at Apple with the ad, maybe it will act as motivation to outdo them even more. Heck even maybe make their own displays some day.
 
I don't think companies have fear... that is a human emotion.

What does this ad about Samsung, it says they have a sense of humor. Someone who is afraid, doesn't poke at the thing they are afraid of. Apple used to have a real sense of humor. Now its senior executives doing animojis. That's not funny (to me).

It is also revealing something about Apple and Samsung. If it took Apple this long to get a new design half to market (no plus yet), how long will it be before the next design or the next new feature. You better like the X if you are an Apple fan, because based on how long it took to get it out, it is likely to be a 4-5 year run. Samsung and others are already moving on and Apple just got to this step.



The most powerful, and yet in a head to head test the Note 8 beat the X on most real world scenarios.

Samsung gave me crap too a few years ago. But today its 2017, and they gave me a brilliant device that works without having through several software updates to "get it right".



I don't know, does the ad show how in spite of the benchmark "slaughter", that in real world applications the X lost to the Note 8? I didn't buy it to run benchmarks. I bought it to use as a smartphone.
I told you, real world scenarios are slower bc of iOS 11. The note 8 has been out longer and optimized. Even the iPhone 7 on iOS 10 is faster than the Samsung S8 (same chip as Note) and the iPhone 8.

Come back and say it 6 months.
 
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I didn't read all the comments in this thread, but I wanted to add that I have had every iPhone since the iPhone 3GS, most on launch day. I've bought an iPhone every year since 2008. Until this year, when I skipped the X and bought a Note 8. I don't regret my decision.

Look, I'm not going to hate on the iPhone X, but Apple made a lot of mistakes that caused me to try the Note, and thus stick with it. Here are a couple of them:

-Apple refuses to let you touch the new phone before it launches. When the Note was announced, Best Buy had it immediately well before it was available. Allowed me to test the phone, play with it, etc.

-Launching the iPhone X later than the 8. I had my old phone sold through Gazelle and had to pass on that if I wanted to wait for the X. Because of the extra month, it gave me the chance to try the Note.

-Rumors of the phone being very hard to get also made me consider switching. I ordered my Note the day after launch. I received it two days later. No artificial shortages.

I went to Best Buy Saturday to try out the iPhone X. Had I been able to try it prior to launch, I probably wouldn't have switched. I was concerned about the unknowns and the timeframe caused me to sample the competition. I don't know that I'll be able to go back to iOS now until they open things up more like Android.

No need to hate. I still have a ton of Apple products. But I love technology and I was getting bored with iOS. Apple gave me the final shove to try Android. I'm curious how many others decided to do the same thing.
 
And one of the big positive selling points for the iPhone X is the also a big negative. OLED display. OLED definitely has some advantages, but the burn-in issue that exists with OLED is a big deterrent for my purchasing this phone. I'll likely be going with the iPhone 8 or 8 Plus.
 
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https://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks


if you're a mobile gamer, pay attention to this section


But the biggest advantage is that the iPhone isn't running the Android Data-mining System™... which is the primary reason Google made the OS to begin with.

Interesting. Thanks for the info. It appears the iPhone 8 is faster.

benchmark.jpg


But as far as your data mining claim, it appears Android did not surpass Apple until 2016

screen-shot-2017-08-03-at-2.43.30-pm-100730861-orig.jpg


Not sure about your sales claim.

This info came from TechRepublic, and Computerworld
 
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