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New Siri Remote Lacks Accelerometer and Gyroscope for Gaming on Apple TV

Oh... bummer! This will mean that the new remote won't auto wake the TV brightness anymore. That was always a cool little Apple detail, though not important at all....

Did anyone else notice that when the Apple TV dims your TV due to inactivity, when you sit back on the couch and remote is on it, the gyro activating would brighten up your TV? It has be so puzzled the first time it happened.
 
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4k and unified TV remote have been part of ROKU for some time.
More of APPLE catching up.
just like the iPhone catchup game.

Still no Touch screen on Macs
If macOS is gonna look and resemble iPadOS you think you would get a touch screen.
and now iMacs are only 4.5k screens instead of 5k like before
 
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spokenblurb said:
Well this clenches it for me I’m definitely gonna wait because there probably gonna drop another Apple TV that’s gaming focused that’s gonna include what people really wanted. LOL
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Haha, yeah. I am just waiting for the announcement, that Apple arcade will be not more, since it is not profitable enough. :rolleyes:
 
opeter said:
Haha, yeah. I am just waiting for the announcement, that Apple arcade will be not more, since it is not profitable enough. :rolleyes:
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I would think it is, even if it isn't accessed at all. I have it since Apple One was cheaper for extra storage and Apple TV +. Arcade is just lumped in so I can not complain. I would never pay for Arcade standalone though.

I would think I am not in the minority either?
 
yegon said:
Remind me, Pippin aside, when did Apple last release gaming focused hardware? You’ll be waiting forever, and even if it were to happen (likely never, if I wasn’t clear), existing console controllers are a 1000x better than a mythical future remote.

Apple don’t give a fudge about gaming, not their realm of experience or expertise. Sure, there’s Apple Arcade and games are the biggest sellers on the App Store, but that’s something Apple stumbled into due to wider popularity of mobile gaming among people who are typically non-gamers.

I’m not being snarky, merely illustrating that imo you‘d be wasting your time waiting for something that is never going to happen.
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Yeah, I have been around Apple and their "love gaming talks" for a long time. Actions speak louder than words...

When the first iMac was launched even Jobs stated that "we (Apple) love gaming", and talked briefly about the great games coming to Mac OS (stuff like Unreal), but there was no Mac capable of running these titles decently, especially that iMac.
So, stating "we love gaming" and then releasing the new consumer Mac with very, very poor grfx hardware... hmm... Imaging buying the new iMac and Unreal, installing it... running at and trying to play a "slideshow" at very low settings :rolleyes:

Later on you could empower your Gx Power Mac with a 3rd party grfx cards to boost gaming. (Had a 3Dfx Voodoo 5 5500 in a 400 MHz G3 what was very cool - still have that setup BTW). So if you had chosen a Power Mac (aimed at professionals) you were able to play Mac OS games pretty well with aftermarket cards, but iMacs... no... only very recently has that become "okay".

Same goes for nowadays.
Apple suddenly 'loves games" as it helps them make money. Simple as that. 30% from the iOS App Store revenue, and being able to boast about the grfx performance of the iOS devices.
And that's fine of course!

But, Apple will never "love" gaming, in the way that Apple will dedicate hardware to it.
 
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I can’t help but feel this is a bit of an interim release? The upgrades are not that big of a jump really when you consider it’s the base A12 instead of the A10X. As my gen 1 4K is working fine and I ended up buying a Roku for my second TV anyway I think I will hold off updating for now.
 
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Well the current Siri remote is down right terrible for gaming purposes (and I've tried it...), so this makes sense. With that being said, it would have made a lot of sense for Apple to remove the accelerometer and gyroscope to make room for the U1 chip and built-in AirTag support. But, alas...
 
Is there any reason to upgrade from original 4k if I already have a few of these? I honestly don’t see any stutter or issues as is but damn the itch for wanting something new.
 
noone said:
Why would they do that? This Apple TV is more than sufficient for the casual gaming that (I’m assuming) 98% of people do on it. If they were to do anything, I’d guess it would be an Apple branded gaming controller.
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Apple stepping into the gaming market would seal it for me. Right now running an emulator you can play all 800+ Nintendo games, etc. apple has been dipping their toes in the gaming segment again. It’s time they let you throw some real graphical meat into a system, pay the premium, and be done with it. People can say “that’s not their market” but that’s old thinking. It wasn’t but it is now. Why? SERVICES. Back when people balked at moving into gaming there wasn’t a robust internet infrastructure. There wasn’t online distribution, memberships, etc. Apple needs to step into the gaming arena. They can be select about it. But open support and watch their market share climb. I make a good living and have a great rig at home I’d replace to keep it in their ecosystem.
 
Hey, game developers who expect users to have the old remote, SCREW YOU!

Sincerely yours, Apple
 
Macintosh IIvx said:
Wat? The A12 Bionic beats the older A10X by about an average of 30% in nearly every GPU performance test.

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Apple A12 Bionic vs Apple A10X Fusion - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
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Good, but not enough for some of the heavier ”console level” games (and what about upcoming games?) on AppStore and Apple Arcade, I think. Especially if running above 1920 x 1080 pixels, but I guess that isn't the plan? And we want at least 60 frames per second, don't we? 🤔

I was hoping for a bit more after four years since the Apple TV 4K came out, but I understand an A12 keeps the price down and since most probably won't game on their Apple TV the A12 is more than enough. Therefore, perhaps also release a more gaming focused Apple TV for a higher price for those who would like that?
 
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Macintosh IIvx said:
Wat? The A12 Bionic beats the older A10X by about an average of 30% in nearly every GPU performance test.

Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head

Apple A12 Bionic vs Apple A10X Fusion - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net www.notebookcheck.net
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I only see CPU benchmarks in that link. :confused:

Geekbench has the A10X around 30% faster than A12 for METAL.

Overall the new model will be slightly faster, but it is not the huge 2x or 3x performance jump you would expect Apple to present after 4 years. It’s certainly not enough to future proof for more demanding games.
 
Perhaps they want to sell us a Hermes remote case, with the possibility to attach an Airtag to it :D
 
I still have the 32GB Apple TV HD. Been holding off on upgrading because I was waiting for a more gaming-focused Apple TV. On my current Apple TV, I can only install 4 of the games I actually want to play along with all my streaming apps, now it’s full.

I use the Apple TV remote for some and an Xbox One Controller for others. Love gaming on the Apple TV. This is a huge missed opportunity. Safe to say I’m not upgrading until there’s an Apple TV with massive storage and console-type performance. I was thinking of just ordering the new remote at least but now that I see it’s incompatible with games, I’m not going to do that either.

What happened to the rumor of a gaming-focused Apple TV with built-in audio / home pod functionality? Or was that just a silly fantasy?

Why can’t we have a 1TB Apple TV with an M1 chip? Imagine that. I’d install ALL Arcade Games and play with epic performance. If only.
 
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ipedro said:
I think that this is a hint of a greater focus on games, not less. The remote is no longer the expected gaming controller. My guess is the other shoe has yet to drop: an Apple designed gaming controller sold separately later in the fall.

This new Apple TV is pretty power packed. Arcade games are going to run fantastic on this, including future games that will no longer have the slow 4 year old Apple TV holding them back. Arcade games must run on iOS, iPadOS and tvOS and the old Apple TV was the bottleneck.
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Sadly they still sell the Apple TV HD which has the A8...it does come with the new remote though!

Why they didn't just recycle the previous 4K and limit it to 1080p I dont know.

They really need a <£100 Apple TV.
 
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