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News Flash: Apple Special Event Planned 1st Week in July

Daveway said:
No, because it was announced in the spring, not released. I could be wrong.

This French site is reporting the Motorola phone will also be unveiled. Translation please.
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Well, there's not much in the way of specifics. The new phone will be iTunes on a Moto phone. A major US wireless company (unnamed, I think) has said yes, and they're negotiating profit splits. The announcement will come soon. An interesting article, but a major paper like le Figaro is not a rumor site.
 
bwintx said:
This page explains the term, however (perhaps) unintentionally funny the page itself may be. ;)
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Bad translation. "Pilgrim's staff." In other words, Jobs had to do "pilgrimages" to the carriers to convince them they were better off with x% of the market leader rather than doing it themselves, or letting MS (shudder) do it, or going off into their own pricing -- giving the labels more per song for "Cingular CTunes," or something like that. Reality distortion field, anyone? They didn't stand a chance.
 
onlymac said:
given that this is the big 'welcome to podcasting' release, it seem likely that a new revision of ithe ipod is also due in order to enable everyone to take part.

i'm betting that '4.9' moniker will be skipped in favour of "iTunes 5.0", simultaneously with 5G iPod's with built-in audio recording facilities similar to but hopefully better than the iRiver (which is currently the podcasters hardware of choice, specifically for that reason)

the current iPods can only record with third party addon and even then only at very low quality.

just my 2 cents
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Yuck. For live recordings, it's not the recorder, it's the mike placement. If the teacher wears a wireless lapel, you can get good sound -- or if you have a guy follow him around with a boom mike. Intelligible sound doesn't happen by accident. It costs money to get presence.

Or line recording? Possibly. You want iPods to jack into mixers? Stereo line out? Well, you'd need a quality digitizer. More cost. Bigger iPod. Not worth it to me, that's for sure.

Buy a digital recorder.
 
Swift said:
Buy a digital recorder.
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i have one. 8 track hard disk recorder. not quite pocket sized though...

and edirol has the R-1, but a) it is 400 dollars...and i already spent as muuch on my hard disk recorder b)compact flash c) if i want decent recording time out of it i either have to compress to mp3...which..defeats the purpose of having high quality recording equipment or i can shell out ... 100 dollars for a 1 gb flas media card...which still won't get me REAL far...

i can transfer the files via USB 2.0...but...i don't have USB 2.0 on my comp...sucks for me. mind you, i LIKE and WANT the R-1...but it really wouldnt be very effective for me.

and..well...the iRiver has had built in recording capabilites since WHEN? if it is a matter of the chipset being able to compress..then don't compress. i am willling to leave 10 Gb free on my ipod and record straight to aiff. the transfer to my computer would be seamless adn i wouldnt have to worry.

and i want an ipod. yesterday.
 
jwp1964 said:
Does anyone not think this is only iPod related? Given that computer sales have probably slowed after the intel announcement and that SJ said more products were on the way, isn't this a good time to announce some new computer updates or a brand new piece of hardware to get folks interested in hardware again? I was personally hoping for that half iBook thingy :D
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yeah this could be an intel announcment as well, as an ibook, ipod announcement.
Personally im hoping for the new apple garageband asterioid.
 
Applespider said:
I vote iTunes 4.9 and new iPods along with everyone else

but I'll raise you the iTunes Motorola phone...
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I'd really see something about the size of a RAZR, the functionality of a PDA, iPod storage and music, and a phone to boot.

Alas, I think it will just be new iPods and a iTunes enabled phone.
 
Westside guy said:
Somehow I don't think Apple's going to release a computer that you CAN'T GET ANY NATIVE SOFTWARE FOR!!! :D

I doubt that Jobs wants most peoples' first impressions of the new Mactels, when they do come out, to be "boy these are dog slow" - and that's what'd happen if everything was having to go through Rosetta.

There's a reason he gave the developers a years' warning. Despite what you read on this forum, it's not going to be a trivial job for most software houses to move their products over to x86. They'll easily need that year. I'm sure Adobe and Microsoft will be done well ahead of that time; but they've got lots of people to throw at the problem.
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Not true. You can get iLife for it. Steve demoed most all the iLife apps, except Garage Band. Safari for sure. I'd imagine all the software Apple owns and develops runs on x86 now. iWork for sure. Final Cut Pro? Probably. Logic? Probably. Like the Steve said, if your using Xcode, a recompile and a couple of lines of code redo, and your done.
 
any speculation on a shuffle with a screen. after sporting a first gen ipod for a while, ive realized there is really only about a gig of music i listen to regularly, so it makes sense for myself. however, i need a screen.
 
geerlingguy said:
If iPods were the same price they are now, but included any kind of audio input that would allow for 44.1 (or even 96!) kHz, stereo, uncompressed (or even possibly 128 kbps compression) audio recording, I know a lot of audio engineers, radio remote techs, small bands, TV crews, etc. that would buy one in a heartbeat!

Right now the options are: you get something like an iRiver, which is okay, but not great, for mobile recording, but just isn't built that great - for a few hundred; or you get a special compact flash recorder that can't record too much (4 GB max right now - and those cards are expensive), but is built sturdy and purposefully for on-the-road recording, but costs $500 and up.

Enter the iPod: $299 gets you 20 GB of recording, with an unbalanced 1/8" line input (or, heck, have some sort of dock adaptor for balanced XLR stereo!)—and have some sort of way to set compression rates and such.
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As someone who regularly uses a Marantz PMD670 (compact flash recorder), I'd never use an iPod. First off, it's a hard drive based thing. For remote recording, if it gets jarred, I'd be concerned. Second, the Marantz I have I got a 2 Gig flash card for (like over a year ago) for $140. It can record 3 hours in stereo at 44.1Khz. More if you use MP2 or MP3 formats. Plus, the Marantz has XLR inputs with Phantom power. Would this dock/adaptor thing have Phantom power? The dock adapter would be bigger than the iPod.

Total cost of the Marantz with card, $700.

The iPod as a recorder? No. It's not going to happen. I'd be very scared trusting my recordings to it.....
 
Surreal said:
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if this is it, then they have quaranteed money from me. i have refused to buy a hard disk ipod because they had no recording capabiities. i mean near cd quality...the italk is pitiful.

i have voice lessons to record...so a muffled sound ...well...it defeats the purpose.

my complaining on this board about the ipod may come to a close :)
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Go get a TAPE recorder and record yourself. Or a MiniDisc recorder. Those are designed to DO what you want them to do.
 
intel macs, sturdier ipods

My wishlist: Intel Macs and sturdier iPods,

First, there is no reason Apple can't release an Intel Mac right now. Mac OS X Intel is ready, and Rosetta can run all apps reasonably well. Plus, when Apple introduced the Bondi iMac with USB only (no serial ports), they very quickly forced the industry to create lots of USB devices and move away from serial. The same is true by dropping Intel Macs on the market now. Price an Intel Mac Mini real cheap, they'll flood the market, and developers will feel pressure to create their universal binaries.

Second, I hope that Apple makes sturdier iPods (I have never used an iPod mini but get the impression they are sturdier). Apple has twice replaced my 4G 20 gig iPod because the seal keeps coming undone, they say it has something to do with the glue and the temperature at the factory. If you're going to be putting even cooler technology in there like Bluetooth and color screens, you want a device that will be dependable. My cell phones, cordless phones, and PDA all age gracefully, here's hoping to iPods that can as well!

Cheers!
 
Swift said:
Yuck. For live recordings, it's not the recorder, it's the mike placement. If the teacher wears a wireless lapel, you can get good sound -- or if you have a guy follow him around with a boom mike. Intelligible sound doesn't happen by accident. It costs money to get presence.

Or line recording? Possibly. You want iPods to jack into mixers? Stereo line out? Well, you'd need a quality digitizer. More cost. Bigger iPod. Not worth it to me, that's for sure.

Buy a digital recorder.
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exactly, i really don't see them adding audio recording to this thing. why try and muddle the experience and have the iPod do 10 things at an acceptable level, instead of 2 or 3 things amazing? any recording to be done with/through the iPod would not be high quality at all, and after the initial "look what my iPod can do" reaction, people would just be complaining about how the recording was subpar.

the ipod will continue to do what it does best, interface with iTunes, and play music. its amazing ability to do just that, and its sex appeal are what set it apart, not being crappy digital swiss army knife.
 
ericdano said:
Go get a TAPE recorder and record yourself. Or a MiniDisc recorder. Those are designed to DO what you want them to do.
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Tape recorders rarely have decent quality. and....i work in computer audio...i havent used a tape PLAYER in...hmmm.

2. i have a minidisc recorder...you realize that with the old ones you pretty much have to capture the audio into your cpu? there is a usb cable..but software...for os X? there is little to no support from sony for Mac.

1 and 2 are to establish that there is no EFFICIENT way to get the file from the media onto my computer for archival. right now i use my friends ibook. workable, but not ideal.


3 niether of these would be as seamless as recording into my ipod. seriously. copy a file from the ipod. or RErecord it

do YOU record with a tape recorder or minidisc recorder? AND center your audio work around your computer? tapes aand minidisc are not for everyone.


mxpiazza said:
any recording to be done with/through the iPod would not be high quality at all, and after the initial "look what my iPod can do" reaction, people would just be complaining about how the recording was subpar.
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all i want is a Line in. how will that "muddle the experience?" then it is on me and what mic i pick and how i place it.
 
Orlando Furioso said:
ok, off to play with the homos in SF (pride weekend).
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I went to the SF Pride Festival back in '99 when I lived up there for the summer. I'm not gay, but had much fun. Apparently the whole city participates in the celebrations, straight, gay, and other pursuasions. When one is surrounded by a high gay population I guess you just have to try to get along.

Oh yes, so my predictions are, well, iTunes phone I guess... It's too early to see MacTel computers.
 
Surreal said:
all i want is a Line in. how will that "muddle the experience?" then it is on me and what mic i pick and how i place it.
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yeah, maybe that's how you see it, but for 70% of the people who buy an ipod, they'll see "oh, this thing records music?", then it will suck compared to a dedicated recording device, and people will complain because their ipod's recording options suck compared to their mp3 collection.

even a medium quality, stereo line-in would create cost and support issues that would stifle development on other iPod areas that would contribute more to the iPod user base as a whole, imo.
 
swingerofbirch said:
there is no reason Apple can't release an Intel Mac right now.
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Of course they have the technology, I mean, the developer's mac works right?
But there are reasons not to release an Intel Mac.

Firstly, as others have noted, many big developers won't have a native product and there will be a noticeable slow-down with the emulator (unless the chip is significantly better!). It would be bad for Apple if a new Mac laptop ran Word slower than current Mac laptops.

Secondly, Intel has made a few strides in a more efficient direction - these include switching directions to chips based on the Pentium-M, and getting rid of legacy crap by having a new bios (EFI). I would be very surprised if Apple wasn't timing its releases to coincide with Intel's new plans. (That said, there IS a Pentium-M chip right now so maybe it's possible?)

Thirdly, Apple doesn't want to just have another x86 clone (which is what the developers machines are). Sure they could have an x86 clone with OSX on it, but I think they want a tighter hold of the motherboard and chipsets. I HOPE they stick closely with Intel standards, but it'd be nice for them to be showing other cloners how it should be done.

edit: Jobs said it'd take 2 years, and those years are 2006-2007. That implies January 2006 to December 2007. Yonah (Pentium-M dual core) will be in full production in January. The performance boost of the dual core Yonah may make a Yonah laptop running EMULATED MS-Word faster than today's G4 laptop running native MS-Word. It'd be a good first step, and once MS-Office is native they can step across with the G5s without a performance drop. I can't think of any other 'first steps' that give them the above advantages.
 
G5Unit said:
Why would they bring out new iPods? The current ones are fine if you ask me. If they make them any smaller, people will misplace them. This is coming from a 1st gen iPod owner by the way.
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Thankfully no one is asking you. They don’t call it progress because you sit on your butt enjoying what you already have.
 
Besides the NBC & APPLE partnership I hope we have some better news than updated ipods, new aiport express and isight updates.
 
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