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Because it's a gimmick that's not going to work well in real-life.

How many people are using Android's facial recognition to unlock their phones? Remember that feature? Remember how "innovative" it was?


....yeah, nobody's using it.

I used it for about 3 days on my Nexus 7...then the stupid tablet wouldn't recognise me wearing a hat.....
 
Because it's a gimmick that's not going to work well in real-life.

How many people are using Android's facial recognition to unlock their phones? Remember that feature? Remember how "innovative" it was?


....yeah, nobody's using it.

Well much like Siri - it's "in progress" i imagine. I know they've been working on (and haven't they released updates) to counter the ability to use a still image. I thought I read somewhere that they are not using facial unlock which seeks out movement in the eye or whatnot so you can't use a still image.

It remains to be seen how effective and useful it is. What we think is useless today could be invaluable tomorrow.

Just like the iPad has done wonders for the autistic and other communities with some fantastic apps - a feature like eye scrolling could be invaluable for those with challenges.

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I used it for about 3 days on my Nexus 7...then the stupid tablet wouldn't recognise me wearing a hat.....

So it worked! lol
 
It might finally be getting time for me to get my first iPad. I just hope the new models are lighter, the minis are retina, and... that's actually all I care about. Specs on a tablet are pretty meaningless aside from weight, battery life, and screen.

If the mini is retina, and Apple can shave some ounces off the full sized, it's going to be a tough choice between the two, with lots of agonizing time comparing in an Apple Store after release.

You have written EXACTLY what I was thinking. If the 5 is lighter, I think I lean more toward it b/c the screen size is such a draw.

The mini is awesome, but I think the retina will make it heavier, which will cause it to lose some of that magic.

Then again, we won't know until it happens.

My bet is that the mini doesn't go retina until "mini 3".
 
Because the iPhone doesn't have a 5" screen? What else is dated with the hardware? Certainly not the internals.

The internals are fine, but they are no better or worse than competing android models. It's hard to say that the iPhone 5 performs better or worse than the Nexus four, for example. The external design feels dated because the 5S will undoubtedly look just like the 5, an incremental change to a design from three years ago. I'm sure it's good enough for many people but for others it's disappointing to see this company mailing it in like this.
 
The bitter side of me wants the 5S to fail. Then maybe the yawn-inducing S models will be a thing of the past.

The S models are a problem only if you assume Apple is planning a yearly prodcut cycle.

I don't think Apple's strategy is a new phone every year. I think their plan is a product line with a 2 year upgrade cycle for two groups of repeat buyers, one set on the S year and one set on the non-S year, with a small tweak every year to pull in some new owners along the way.

I think it's about remaining a top teir phone and retaining the largest single model market shares.
 
There are still things that could be included that exist "now" (let alone what we don't know of the future). I am not advocating for any of the below - just listing

NFC
Tactile screen (which raises bumps or other things as needed)
waterproofed
pico projector

and so on...

Seems to me the WOW will come from software not hardware. I'm hoping Apple is focusing most of their energy on iOS 7 as I don't think they can afford for it to be just an incremental update to iOS 6. Unless they frame it up as the beginning of something great to come with iOS 8.

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The internals are fine, but they are no better or worse than competing android models. It's hard to say that the iPhone 5 performs better or worse than the Nexus four, for example. The external design feels dated because the 5S will undoubtedly look just like the 5, an incremental change to a design from three years ago. I'm sure it's good enough for many people but for others it's disappointing to see this company mailing it in like this.

Mailing it in because the casing doesn't look different? Then I guess Nokia has been mailing it in for a while now since the N9, Lumia 800 and 920 all look very similar design wise.

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Dear Apple.

if iOS 7 , and the quality of Mac OS doesn't return soon..doesn't reiterate what makes Apple Different from the rest of the companies.. then you are truly lost.

People cared about great hardware from you when they were in love with your software.

well, that love is dying. clearly apple's hardware divisions haven't fallen short since the dawn of Apple's great era.

but your software divisions are in huge need of focus and attention. you need to downgrade craig federghi to some lower level, as a provider of ideas. but you need someone like that bertland guy, to write Decent, reliable, and nearly bug proof Software.

sounds like steve passed away just a the right time by your comments !
 
In this market Apple needs to lead and I don't see the point in sticking to yearly updates if they don't have to. The iPad mini should have been a retina display upon initial release. The landscape by August is going to be even more competitive.
 
Well much like Siri - it's "in progress" i imagine. I know they've been working on (and haven't they released updates) to counter the ability to use a still image. I thought I read somewhere that they are not using facial unlock which seeks out movement in the eye or whatnot so you can't use a still image.

It remains to be seen how effective and useful it is. What we think is useless today could be invaluable tomorrow.

Just like the iPad has done wonders for the autistic and other communities with some fantastic apps - a feature like eye scrolling could be invaluable for those with challenges.

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So it worked! lol

it was Samsung that added the need for blinking, and that was in May of 2012 (then Jelly Bean went on to add that as well, think that was around June 2012)
 
Seems to me the WOW will come from software not hardware. I'm hoping Apple is focusing most of their energy on iOS 7 as I don't think they can afford for it to be just an incremental update to iOS 6. Unless they frame it up as the beginning of something great to come with iOS 8.

I think both can wow based on implementation. What good is an amazing new camera if the features/usability sucks? What good is adding a pico projector if it's a pain to use. Etc.

But I agree. It seems as though software is really the place the new iPhone can shine. I don't agree with the idea that iOS is "stale" - it seems to be working quite well for Apple and its users. Can it improve - of course. I would rather see complete rewrites of their native apps than much changes in the OS. For example - I find the mail app sorely lacking.

Although there is at least one OS change I would love - and that would to be able to chose the default app.
 
The bitter side of me wants the 5S to fail. Then maybe the yawn-inducing S models will be a thing of the past.

So you want Apple's S models to fail so that they create new designs every 9 - 12 months to make you happy?

And throw away iconic designs like the 4 and 5 for the sake of change?

Even if that means a lower resale value and poorer ecosystem of accessories?

I think the solution here is clear: don't let your happiness hinge on Apple's product launches.
 
Anyway, I'll just buy the next generation Nexus 7 (whatever it is), I don't give a care about iPads.

So you come to an article about iOS devices and they say you don't care about iPads and are just going to buy the next nexus 7...?

I have a nexus 7 and the ipad mini. The nexus 7 is complete garbage compared to the ipad.
 
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The iPhone 5 is three years old already?

I think he meant it uses the same design language as the 4. What he doesn't understand is how that translates to strengthening the brand and the immense value of iterating on proven designs.

I wonder if these people complain to luxury car manufacturers for taking 7-8 years to overhaul their designs.
 
I sold my iPad 3rd gen in Feb in anticipation for an upgraded look/design keeping the same size screen for March/April...if a 5th gen iPad is released in April that will make me a VERY happy camper!
 
iPhone 5S seems legit, new iPads in April? Guess not ...

I've bought a iPad 4th gen in the end of November, upgrading from a iPad 1st gen. For me, the current iPad is already very capable machine. Nothing feels slow or unresponsive.

For the iPad, it seems unlikely to have already a new update. What will be updated? Processor? Just a new shell?

A iPad mini with retina ... mmm, i can believe that ... but not in April.

For me, makes more sense to have updated iPads (5th gen and Mini retina) in the fall.

Regarding the iPhone 5S in August, it seems completely possible.

And since i've just upgraded my trusty 3GS with a new battery so it can hold until August / September (going strong for almost 4 years), i'm anxiously waiting for it.

I can however predict 2 things:
- iPhone 3GS will not support iOS 7 (it's already slow on iOS 6)
- iPad 2 will probably not support iOS 7 (the same way Apple forced us, iPad 1st gen owner, to upgrade).
 
The internals are fine, but they are no better or worse than competing android models. It's hard to say that the iPhone 5 performs better or worse than the Nexus four, for example.

I don't know about subjective use, but the iPhone 5 appears to be more powerful than the Nexus 4 in every benchmark, even Google's own.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review/3

According to Anand it needs aggressive cpu throttling to keep from overheating which hurts its scores. Hence the jokes like needing to use the Nexus 4 while inside of a walk-in freezer in order to get current high end levels performance out of it ;)
 
What really concerns me with Apple's potential accelerated product launches (on certain product lines) is the impact all these new models are having on the environment and that of the market. It's going to lead to a lot of fragmentation as clearly many people cannot afford just to go out and buy a brand new Apple device every single time a new generation is released.

And can a company really maintain a realistic quality control on these products at the same time?

Apple needs to slow down a bit before it starts getting messy.

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IMO... There are already quality issues (though not as much as some other manufacturers). I think Apple should stick to the current release time table. Don't become a Samsung or other and have multiple releases, it just gets confusing.
 
The external design feels dated because the 5S will undoubtedly look just like the 5, an incremental change to a design from three years ago. I'm sure it's good enough for many people but for others it's disappointing to see this company mailing it in like this.

My thoughts exactly. The "look" of the iPhone is looking a bit dated and I'm afraid the 5S will do nothing to change that (if not perpetuate the notion).
 
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