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Next iPhone X Lineup Said to Feature Smaller Notches, 2019 Models May Ditch Notch Entirely
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Well, the sensor suite in Face ID (The Notch) has a layer of glass. It is not part of the display glass. It is the same glass that covers the camera lenses on the back. Very different composition than the display glass.
IMO, Apple and Corning are very close to a comparable display glass. Face ID always felt like a last minute decesion. I think late 2019 will be the end of Face ID. If not, I guess I buy the last possible 8+ and use it until it’s toast.
Why do u think Apple is trending toward a notchless X? Because I'm not alone.
99%+ of online and TV content is 16:9 or smaller.
Most movies from the last few day decades are 1.85 or 2.35 ratios. The 1.85 ratio is not affected by the notch. The 2.35 ratio is indeed constrained in size by the notch, but that's pretty misleading because the X still has a 'longer' display than all previous iPhones and 2.35 movies will have smaller top/bottom borders when displaying 2.35 content--IOW, you're still able to use more of the X screen when watching 2.35 content than on any previous iPhone.
The notch is not negatively affecting the vast majority of videos that people are watching on their phones.
By 2019 apple will figure out how to put cameras underneed the display. I can’t wait.
Just like they did with the fingerprint sensor? I think the camera under the display technology is way too far for now...
Trying to explain this to a "notch hater" is an exercise in futility. It's the mere existence of the notch that irritates them.
It doesn't matter if it does or doesn't affect usage. The fact that it's there is all they focus on.
Many films use cinemascope/2.35:1, and even more so now than ever. This will be affected by the notch. Don't get me wrong, as I normally don't view films on my mobile device. But, this affects every day use to ME at least. I have OCD with these kind of things. I don't want to see something obstructing my display when I zoom in on a picture, watching videos, or just using the phone to text. Some say they don't notice it, but it sticks out like bird s*** on a black shoe to me.
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I pray that manufacturers don't all jump on this horrible design. It saddens me that Asus already has.
And if they can find a way to fix the OS will we get a really good smartphone.
I'd love to bet with you on that. But it would be unfair to you.
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No more selfies? Fat chance. Maybe if they put displays on both sides of the phone, so you can use the 'rear' camera for selfies.What if.. 2019 iPhones dont have front facing cameras?
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Sure, and there will be technology to take pictures of something behind a wall.
One plus 6 is already confirmed to have an iPhone X like Notch so we're out of luck with most Android OEMS.
It's time for Samsung to shine with originality I guess.
I feel like it will be only Google and Samsung that really innovate Android in the upcoming future. Lg brings awesome hardware such as quad DAC's, but the general public don't appreciate those things. I personally have been using nexus and pixel devices for the last couple of years, and I would love if Google and Samsung partnered up for the next Pixel device.
Yes. You have a screen that can go transparent. Put the notch devices behind that, then make just that section transparent when needed. A notch you can turn on and off! Being Apple, they could get artistic and make the "notch" magically slide down from the top of the screen as needed, then slide back up when done. So you get a notch for Face ID, camera, but no notch during videos and apps. There's still a tech problem since those displays are not utterly transparent so having a high quality camera behind it is problematic..
Equally as low tech as the notch is a pop-up camera sensor and this is the company that Apple copied the notch from.
https://www.droid-life.com/2018/03/05/essential-might-ready-move-beyond-notch-pop-camera-patent/
Apple didn't "copy" the notch. The notch is inevitable if you want a full screen experience while retaining front facing cameras and sensors. Pop-up cameras seem like they introduce additional complexities for no real benefit.
As technology advances, they could probably reduce the notch by about 25-30% from what it is now. But, to get rid of it altogether is impossible unless you're OK with more bezel. I personally like how the screen is nearly uniformly edge to edge, except for the notch. Looks better than the Galaxy or Pixel phones in my opinion.
I do wonder why they don't have an option to switch off and on that allows them to keep their screen real estate for status indicators and allows users to choose to either use the extra scree real estate if an app is designed to use it, or to skip it and make the screen end just below the bezels, preserving the status indicators and leaving the screen symmetrical.
Some people might want the extra space for stuff like wallpapers and home screens and some might not.
It's already been openly stated that Craig Federighi interviewed with John Gruber that touch ID was experimented with under the display, but they never had full intentions of using it as the primary, where they wanted Face ID as their primary choice once it was operating as intended. Face ID was always there primary goal over touch ID under the display. Touch ID under the display was Plan B.
https://daringfireball.net/2017/09/iphone_x_event_thoughts_and_observations
i will buy it but to be honest i actually like the notch it gives the iPhone some personality. still no notch would better. i don't think it will happen by 2019, maybe 2020
I should have waited lol. In hindsight, my 6 would have got me through another year with a new battery.
We understand technology evolves forever. You’re confusing a notchless iPhone with the ultimate experience. 10 years from now, the notchless iPhone will be old news too. I love my X...today.
You “waiters” will never get the ultimate device and will end up waiting forever.
Ok, so let's say they get rid of the notch*. Aren't people now going to complain that the phone has a bad design because they keep accidentally holding it upside-down (especially when taking calls)? I mean, people say that the Siri Remote is bad because of the fact that it's hard to tell which side is the touchpad and which side is the bottom, so why wouldn't people complain about something similar with a notch-less iPhone?
I don't know how Apple would truly solve that problem (outside of making feedback to the back, which people may also say that it's either a stupid idea, is ugly, it's redundant if they put a case on it, or some combination of the three).
Maybe I'm overthinking things, so I'm probably wrong, but I would like to know as to how Apple could possibly solve this.
* Full disclosure, I'm not justifying the notch, but then again, I don't care too much about it.
I don't know how Apple would truly solve that problem (outside of making feedback to the back, which people may also say that it's either a stupid idea, is ugly, it's redundant if they put a case on it, or some combination of the three).
Maybe I'm overthinking things, so I'm probably wrong, but I would like to know as to how Apple could possibly solve this.
* Full disclosure, I'm not justifying the notch, but then again, I don't care too much about it.
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I’m curious if the notch will indeed be slimmer, but I am more concerned with improvements to FaceID and the OLED screen issues. Also, what will actually be offered on the LCD version vs the OLED models.
I’m sitting good right now. I hedged my bets with getting the 8+. I can upgrade this year through Verizon or I can just wait until 2019 if I’m not compelled by the 2018 releases. The 8+ will carry me through either way.
I’m sitting good right now. I hedged my bets with getting the 8+. I can upgrade this year through Verizon or I can just wait until 2019 if I’m not compelled by the 2018 releases. The 8+ will carry me through either way.
So they replaced an already working and fully baked solution that was also globally used for NFC payments for a new "amateurish" technology that will take a long time to improve and to be as reliable as Touch ID because they never had the intention of adding under the display fingerprint just like they tested? Seems about right...