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No MP until September?
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No need to be pessimistic
As a good friend of mine would say, "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence."
You seem really sure that we aren't seeing an updated Mac Pro until late summer. Problem is, I've only heard you say that you "heard from an inside source." Not to be harsh, but no one is going to take that remotely seriously without more evidence of any sort...
No need to be pessimistic
As a good friend of mine would say, "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence."
Well I say . . Nothing is nothing is nothing = no mac pro for us anytime soon. My optimistic tone a few months ago didn't help, so maybe a pessimistic tone will.
Exactly. Expect the worst, so when the time comes, you can't be disappointed. Instead, you'll be pleasantly surprised if you're wrong
You seem really sure that we aren't seeing an updated Mac Pro until late summer. Problem is, I've only heard you say that you "heard from an inside source." Not to be harsh, but no one is going to take that remotely seriously without more evidence of any sort...[/QUOTE
The information comes from within Apple. Take it at that.
Believe me. I want a Mac Pro worse than you. Been waiting since March. I pray my source is wrong, but I doubt it. The money for a new one is burning a hole in my pocket.
You seem really sure that we aren't seeing an updated Mac Pro until late summer. Problem is, I've only heard you say that you "heard from an inside source." Not to be harsh, but no one is going to take that remotely seriously without more evidence of any sort...[/QUOTE
The information comes from within Apple. Take it at that.
Believe me. I want a Mac Pro worse than you. Been waiting since March. I pray my source is wrong, but I doubt it. The money for a new one is burning a hole in my pocket.
Inside Apple could mean anything so it means nothing. The only people inside Apple to have any real knowledge of this outside ofa few executives are the Mac Pro development team themselves. pretty much 95% of the rest of Apple would not be privy to this. That is probably why we here so little about these sort of things. However, if your source is on the MP Dev team, then you may have some solid info. Otherwise, your source probably is reading the same stories we are. Either way, it is overdue now and will be even more overdue then.
The information comes from within Apple. Take it at that.
Believe me. I want a Mac Pro worse than you. Been waiting since March. I pray my source is wrong, but I doubt it. The money for a new one is burning a hole in my pocket.
I have to ask, how does it not make sense to unveil an outdated product to a primary customer group during one of Apple's only yearly events? Claim part shortages all you want, but its not like there could be a better time or place. Not announcing one would likely put a sour taste in the mouths of the crowd at WWDC, and raise red flags.
One would hope that the attendees at this type of thing aren't as mindless as the Mac World "followers."
I have to ask, how does it not make sense to unveil an outdated product to a primary customer group during one of Apple's only yearly events? Claim part shortages all you want, but its not like there could be a better time or place. Not announcing one would likely put a sour taste in the mouths of the crowd at WWDC, and raise red flags.
One would hope that the attendees at this type of thing aren't as mindless as the Mac World "followers."
The only question I'd have about this is: are developer's really the big Mac Pro users? Can't iPad/iPhone development occur just as readily on an iMac or MacBook Pro? I always thought the big users of the Mac Pro were creative professionals, especially rendering video. That being said hopefully WWDC 2010 will be for the Mac Pro what WWDC 2009 was for the MacBook Pro.
Isn't Apple along with being secretive also famous for propagating misinformation?
If it's not Intel supply problems I wish Apple would just release the darn thing already!
The fact that there is not much smoke, probably means there is no fire.
The only mention recently has been from an analyst who has been proven to know squat. iPhone 4 will probably be the big "news" at WWDC.
It does not make sense to hoard an outdated product release to a global media dog and pony show when could have released it earlier. If the customer group is so primary they would be likely to buy an overdue product without a big dog and pony show. Apple stated years ago that wanted to decouple product releases to fixed time events. If the release happens to coincide fine, but holding back products for months just for dramatic effect.... that's goofy.
Apple dropped the MacBook without even a press release. Steve Jobs is repeatedly quoted waxing on about "PC" era being so "over" and "backward looking". The MacOS X share of WWDC content is chopped down. etc. etc. etc. Folks only setting themselves for exaggerated disappointment by trying to couple MacPro's to being essential WWDC coverage. Last year the MBPro's got stage time in part because only up against the iPhone. This year it is going to be iPhone + iPad + iAds + iPhoneOS4 + maybe something explaining Lala shutdown + etc etc.
What time slot is going to be left for Mac anything. Apple is not trying to be balanced here.
It makes sense to intro the iPhone now because it wasn't ready much earlier. Apple allows itself a year (or a bit more) to drop a new iPhone each year. It is time and yeah for now they are purposely synching that system development to this specific event.
The WWDC is all about iPhone and probably a dash of iPad. I'd be utterly astounded if they risked confusing the focus to derail their biggest most successful product launch for what is essentially an exceptionally niche product.
I personally think were going to see an all new 64-bit Final Cut Studio + Mac Pro combo launch in September.
I personally think were going to see an all new 64-bit Final Cut Studio + Mac Pro combo launch in September.
What else can we do? Apple will NEVER tip their hand for an upcoming product.
That is for sure. If there is nothing next week, I just hope it's no later than September.
its starting to look as if the "only" accurate post on mac pro release date is going to be the one from the french apple forum where they claimed to have gotten the news from someone on the CS5 Development team saying the MP will "not" bet released before October.
If they would have been planing to release it at WWDC we'd have known by now or atleast there would be some rumors floating around...now there is absolutely "nothing", point blank. There is not 1 word about the MP except the fact that they are not planing to end the MP line.
Maybe....just maybe and at best, we might see a small price drop on the current MP's till the updated versions come out, just to calm the crowd...but even that i strongly doubt since its not something i see Apple doing.
I'm guessing it had nothing to do with CPU shortage/intel...
1) i think at this point its not interesting for Apple to come up with an updated machine, its going to be in a price range that would be nuts even by Apples standards.
2) Apple has shifted its focus mainly on the best-sellers. Ipad, Macbook, Macbook Pro. because of this there simply was no time to, at the moment come up with a Mac Pro that is worthy of the name "PRO", the machine is just not ready, simple.
If they would have been planing to release it at WWDC we'd have known by now or atleast there would be some rumors floating around...now there is absolutely "nothing", point blank. There is not 1 word about the MP except the fact that they are not planing to end the MP line.
Maybe....just maybe and at best, we might see a small price drop on the current MP's till the updated versions come out, just to calm the crowd...but even that i strongly doubt since its not something i see Apple doing.
I'm guessing it had nothing to do with CPU shortage/intel...
1) i think at this point its not interesting for Apple to come up with an updated machine, its going to be in a price range that would be nuts even by Apples standards.
2) Apple has shifted its focus mainly on the best-sellers. Ipad, Macbook, Macbook Pro. because of this there simply was no time to, at the moment come up with a Mac Pro that is worthy of the name "PRO", the machine is just not ready, simple.
This is really starting to annoy me at this point =/ We are waiting for a 2010 Mac Pro half way into 2010 already?
If it is released in october then it will better be a 2011
I have been waiting for a long time and I'm tired of it and i find Apple very unprofessional.
This is no way to do business or treat your Mac pro costumers , and keep advertising an outdated overpriced mac pro on their website.
I just recently went to BMW to buy a brand new M5 here in Italy and i was told that the new 2011 model will be released and the 2010 model is not been sold anymore. ( that's how a serious company conducts itself)
I see people keep posting that Apple will abandon the Mac pro line and concentrate on the Ipad ,iphone etc... huh? Are they insane?
I tought Apple was a computer/software company not a gadget company.
The rest of people saying they will not announce the mac pro at macworld because it will strafe the attention of people away from the iphone , are we serious?
Apple thinks i can not make my own mind up on what my priorities are? This is an insult sorry.
And if Steve Job thinks the PC desktop era is over i think he needs to retire , maybe Apple desktop era is over lol.
If he thinks i will be computing and browsing on a 7 inch screen cause it's COOL he needs a reality check.
Actually i HATE browsing on my iphone it's the most annoying thing ever.
At this point i don't think we are going to see a 2010 mac pro , apple just skipped a year , it just makes no sense to realease a 2010 model this late.
They will probably wait till the end of summer and release a 2011 around october/november wich will make sense and if they have any brains left in the Mac Pro department at Apple they should drop the prices on the current 2009 models, or do they think that their PC are so special that even when outdated they are worth more then up-to-date PC's?
If it is released in october then it will better be a 2011
I have been waiting for a long time and I'm tired of it and i find Apple very unprofessional.
This is no way to do business or treat your Mac pro costumers , and keep advertising an outdated overpriced mac pro on their website.
I just recently went to BMW to buy a brand new M5 here in Italy and i was told that the new 2011 model will be released and the 2010 model is not been sold anymore. ( that's how a serious company conducts itself)
I see people keep posting that Apple will abandon the Mac pro line and concentrate on the Ipad ,iphone etc... huh? Are they insane?
I tought Apple was a computer/software company not a gadget company.
The rest of people saying they will not announce the mac pro at macworld because it will strafe the attention of people away from the iphone , are we serious?
Apple thinks i can not make my own mind up on what my priorities are? This is an insult sorry.
And if Steve Job thinks the PC desktop era is over i think he needs to retire , maybe Apple desktop era is over lol.
If he thinks i will be computing and browsing on a 7 inch screen cause it's COOL he needs a reality check.
Actually i HATE browsing on my iphone it's the most annoying thing ever.
At this point i don't think we are going to see a 2010 mac pro , apple just skipped a year , it just makes no sense to realease a 2010 model this late.
They will probably wait till the end of summer and release a 2011 around october/november wich will make sense and if they have any brains left in the Mac Pro department at Apple they should drop the prices on the current 2009 models, or do they think that their PC are so special that even when outdated they are worth more then up-to-date PC's?
This is really starting to annoy me at this point =/ We are waiting for a 2010 Mac Pro half way into 2010 already?
If it is released in october then it will better be a 2011
I have been waiting for a long time and I'm tired of it and i find Apple very unprofessional.
This is no way to do business or treat your Mac pro costumers , and keep advertising an outdated overpriced mac pro on their website.
I just recently went to BMW to buy a brand new M5 here in Italy and i was told that the new 2011 model will be released and the 2010 model is not been sold anymore. ( that's how a serious company conducts itself)
I see people keep posting that Apple will abandon the Mac pro line and concentrate on the Ipad ,iphone etc... huh? Are they insane?
I tought Apple was a computer/software company not a gadget company.
The rest of people saying they will not announce the mac pro at macworld because it will strafe the attention of people away from the iphone , are we serious?
Apple thinks i can not make my own mind up on what my priorities are? This is an insult sorry.
And if Steve Job thinks the PC desktop era is over i think he needs to retire , maybe Apple desktop era is over lol.
If he thinks i will be computing and browsing on a 7 inch screen cause it's COOL he needs a reality check.
Actually i HATE browsing on my iphone it's the most annoying thing ever.
At this point i don't think we are going to see a 2010 mac pro , apple just skipped a year , it just makes no sense to realease a 2010 model this late.
They will probably wait till the end of summer and release a 2011 around october/november wich will make sense and if they have any brains left in the Mac Pro department at Apple they should drop the prices on the current 2009 models, or do they think that their PC are so special that even when outdated they are worth more then up-to-date PC's?
Don't take this the wrong way, but there is absolutely nothing stopping you purchasing and working on the current model other than some insatiable desire for the absolute very latest tech - which is an offshoot of the PC home-build Hackintosh phenomena. This is illusory at best, since living with that mindset means it will immediately be outdated within about 6 months anyway.
The reality between an '09 and whatever '010 arrives (whenever it arrives - whatever it is) is a 20% in performance (and perceived cost value) - and many dispute even that much - and so in terms of a working professional this is not even a days work!
That basic fact is why I am convinced that 80% of the speculation in here comes from non-working professionals and is very much a consumer perspective who must always have the very latest thing at the very lowest cost. Apple has NEVER played that game.
Here's one last uplifting article.. till we find out the truth next week.
http://gizmodo.com/5553902/wwdc-here-comes-the-new-iphone-but-what-else
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Will there be a Mac Pro upgrade?
The Mac Pro story is essentially the same as the MacBook Air's: overdue for a refresh, rumors swirling, processor delaysin this case Intel's hexacore Xeon CPUsresolved. So we'll give it the same odds of happening next week.
Probability: 80%.
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Thing is.. it is referencing a Macrumors article
http://gizmodo.com/5553902/wwdc-here-comes-the-new-iphone-but-what-else
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Will there be a Mac Pro upgrade?
The Mac Pro story is essentially the same as the MacBook Air's: overdue for a refresh, rumors swirling, processor delaysin this case Intel's hexacore Xeon CPUsresolved. So we'll give it the same odds of happening next week.
Probability: 80%.
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Thing is.. it is referencing a Macrumors article
This.. give or take a few days is true.
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If your a professional.. you will adapt. If not, go play with your other toys in the mean time.
(In my case a MP is my means to efficient work prod. as well as my "toy")
a) We purchased as needed - ended up with PPCs that we out of date, literally a couple of months later.
b) Agreed - one model down is no great performance gap - any more and its usually pretty significant.
c) Happily working in the design business for over 20 years.