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It looks ugly but because it’s bright orange everyone thinks it’s cool and iPhone is boring?
 
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The problem I have with Samsung is that the "cheaper" versions doesn't get updated as often as the more expensive ones. And sometimes the cheaper versions slide into an even worse "update scheme" making it hard for admins to manage devices if you have a mix between affordable and premium phones.
The A15 you got get quarterly updates while the S series get monthly.

I would say that Samsung is still a better choice than nothing since they are open with it and most of their models are "android enterprise recommended"


Apple doesn’t do monthly updates either. And in my opinion, I would prefer quarterly updates. It is PITA to install update monthly.
 
Apple doesn’t do monthly updates either. And in my opinion, I would prefer quarterly updates. It is PITA to install update monthly.
Apple releases updates when they are ready or needed and for all devices at the same time. And when they do the security flaws fixed in the patch are usually published.
The problem is that Samsung might release a critical patch for the S series, publish that its fixed in the monthly release and then the A series have to wait to get theirs two more months to get the same flaw fixed.

The challenge is that its not easy as a consumer or a company to always know what devices that use monthly or quarterly.
 
Weird that they didn't do a translucent plastic option. For $200, might pick one up just to play with it. See what's new in the Android world.

Edit: Preordered. Will post about it in the Alternatives to iOS forum if anyone's interested in a writeup.
 
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Apple releases updates when they are ready or needed and for all devices at the same time. And when they do the security flaws fixed in the patch are usually published.
The problem is that Samsung might release a critical patch for the S series, publish that its fixed in the monthly release and then the A series have to wait to get theirs two more months to get the same flaw fixed.

The challenge is that its not easy as a consumer or a company to always know what devices that use monthly or quarterly.

Vaste consumers do not care when updates pushed out. People like my wife still on iOS 14 on her iPhone 12 and she just doesn’t update her Pixel 7a as well. In same note, my dad is still on iOS 12 with his iPhone XS.

People will update when the update comes. Software update o cellphone is going to be bottom of priorities for most people:
 
Vaste consumers do not care when updates pushed out. People like my wife still on iOS 14 on her iPhone 12 and she just doesn’t update her Pixel 7a as well. In same note, my dad is still on iOS 12 with his iPhone XS.

People will update when the update comes. Software update o cellphone is going to be bottom of priorities for most people:
Yes, that's why cybersecurity should be thought in school so kids can help their parents understand a bit more about it-security.
 
Yes, that's why cybersecurity should be thought in school so kids can help their parents understand a bit more about it-security.

People aren’t bothered about software updates. It isn’t something people will do promptly.

I push my wife to update her phone, she just doesn’t want to. Every time updates, there is chance to break phone. So every software update will need backup and it gets tiresome.

It is just reality. People are more worried about mortgage payment, jobs, taking care kids etc.

Take me for example, I have to wake up cook for kids, the take shower, go to 9-5 work, then go home eat something, play with kids.. then it will be bed time. I want to relax, so I take my phone out watch some shows, then sleep. Software update is last thing I want to do. I will do it when I have time, by the time I update, it will probably few points update behind.
 
No, it's not. I keep looking and they all go around $400-500
That's one of the cheapest ones I found which is ~$450. The link that you posted me doesn't ship here. Nothing Phone is still $200. Makes it better purchase if you ask me + has 5G.
I'm not sure where you are located, but I'm in the United States and a quick eBay search (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=iPhone+11&_sacat=0) for iPhone 11 models brings up hundreds in good to excellent condition for around $150 to $250. Some might need a battery replacement. That will add cost, but even with that, I can find some for $250 total in great shape.
 
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I'm not sure where you are located, but I'm in the United States and a quick eBay search (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=iPhone+11&_sacat=0) for iPhone 11 models brings up hundreds in good to excellent condition for around $150 to $250. Some might need a battery replacement. That will add cost, but even with that, I can find some for $250 total in great shape.

eBay is the last place I want to go if I want used devices. I would look for local repair store, refurbisher or even pawn store for deals.

When I buy used devices, I will physically go pick up and check the devices. I don’t trust online stores.
 
It’s always worth waiting a month after an update has been pushed before installing it. Look at the fiasco we had with 17.5 and the photomancy.
 
eBay is the last place I want to go if I want used devices. I would look for local repair store, refurbisher or even pawn store for deals.

When I buy used devices, I will physically go pick up and check the devices. I don’t trust online stores.
I wasn't suggesting buying from eBay, just offering a quick selection of possibilities. I will say this for eBay though -- they are usually very buyer-friendly (which makes selling on eBay much riskier than buying). If things are not as described, eBay is accommodating. If they won't help, credit card companies will help do a chargeback if the seller was misleading or lying and you can document the issues. Actually, I've had a couple issues over the years with purchases (not from eBay) and the credit card companies just took my word for it. I do have excellent credit and never abuse the purchase protection process, however. YMMV.
 
The problem I have with Samsung is that the "cheaper" versions doesn't get updated as often as the more expensive ones. And sometimes the cheaper versions slide into an even worse "update scheme" making it hard for admins to manage devices if you have a mix between affordable and premium phones.
The A15 you got get quarterly updates while the S series get monthly.

I would say that Samsung is still a better choice than nothing since they are open with it and most of their models are "android enterprise recommended"


At least Samsung follows a predictable cadence with their updates. Apple updates things whenever they feel like it and they mix security in with feature updates, a big reason why they have very little meaningful penetration in enterprise and government.
 
Cheap and has a fun look, so that’s a win if you’re in the market for this kind of thing. Nice to see a company doing something crsative, even if I’m not personally interested.

The corner doodad reminds me of the little pop-out button that iPod Touches had to attach a lanyard to. I always thought that was a cool design. Admittedly, I also never put a lanyard on mine, and for all I know no one else did either which is why Apple never put one on an iPhone.
 
A curious mix of good features, cheap materials, cheap price and a party trick: screws. It’s a nice attempt at standing out in a crowded phone market, but I wish they had gone further with the modularity: easily swappable battery, chip, camera, ram, storage, nfc… Or how about a cheap barebones version you can pimp out yourself?
 
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I'm not sure where you are located, but I'm in the United States and a quick eBay search (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=iPhone+11&_sacat=0) for iPhone 11 models brings up hundreds in good to excellent condition for around $150 to $250. Some might need a battery replacement. That will add cost, but even with that, I can find some for $250 total in great shape.
Poland and really can't find that cheap of iPhones here. The first SE was $50 though. That was a bit surprising. 100% battery but it's stuck on iOS 15 and probably doesn't have a good battery life.
 
I wasn't suggesting buying from eBay, just offering a quick selection of possibilities. I will say this for eBay though -- they are usually very buyer-friendly (which makes selling on eBay much riskier than buying). If things are not as described, eBay is accommodating. If they won't help, credit card companies will help do a chargeback if the seller was misleading or lying and you can document the issues. Actually, I've had a couple issues over the years with purchases (not from eBay) and the credit card companies just took my word for it. I do have excellent credit and never abuse the purchase protection process, however. YMMV.

It is not about eBay being accommodating, it is I don’t want to deal with headaches that maybe come with it.

Local pawn store usually have good deal anyway.
 
This would be a cool backup phone for only $200. If it had more water resistance, would be great travel phone/camera!
 
They really should have bump the price by $10-20 just to include NFC. By some brief calculation this is essentially selling at cost. I would imagine they want to earn back on their accessories and ecosystem.
 
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At least Samsung follows a predictable cadence with their updates. Apple updates things whenever they feel like it and they mix security in with feature updates, a big reason why they have very little meaningful penetration in enterprise and government.
Yes and no, Samsung releases their updates a little bit all over the place depending on the model, the updates aren't delivered on a specific date. But from an Android perspective its good to know what models that get updates. Makes it easier to know what models to offer staff.

Apples mobile devices are more common than Android in enterprise environments these days, at least here in the Nordics.
One reason could be that they just as easy or easier to manage than Android devices and that MS has good iOS manageability and software that works great is probably another reason for their dominance.
 
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