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Sure, those are what important to you but to some, the faster processor, the better camera, 3Dtouch, more storage is why we upgrade..many could care less about apple pay or water proofing. Its all in what you need to be sure.
I fully understand those are reasons why people upgrade. What I'm saying is that if you value a slightly faster phone or slightly better camera at hundreds of dollars a year then Apple has you where it wants you.
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I'd say we have seen some considerable improvements in the camera as well. Nearly everyone I know uses their smartphone as their main (and often only) camera, which is why I mention it. We certainly do. Battery life has also seen improvements in various way (some cases larger footprint, in other, like the SE, an overall more efficient procesor).

3D touch is my big one (in terms of feature you didn't mention). I fully felt it was a gimmick until I used it. Now I keep trying to use it on my Android work phone too lol. It's just a quicker way to get around. Not aboslutely necesary. It's a little bit like when Apple added the right click ability to their Macs. id it change the world? Not really. But it did make doing things more convenient.

As far as waterproofing, I personally can't consider that a feature until the manufacturer actually covers water damage. Just a pet peeve I have with the fine print, I guess. And AFAIK every smartphone manufacturer has the same stance. Water damage isn't covered under any condition officially.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you by the way. Just adding to the discourse.
Yeah, I'm not denying the usefulness of any particular upgrade. I just don't think a slightly more convenient interaction mode (in the case of Touch ID) or slight improvement in photo quality (every iPhone upgrade) is worth spending hundreds of dollars a year to achieve. But people do it, and Apple loves them for it. And they consider their upgrade paths accordingly.
 
But, will it be thin enough? The are just ll too thick now.

/sarc

You forgot the other tired meme "courage." It's not too late to go back and add it to your post. Maybe something like "I hope Apple has the courage to make it thin enough." Don't forget the emoji. Get it out there early, you guys missed on the iPhone 7 and now it looks like almost 200 million people are going to buy it that boring too thin phone that doesn't even have a 3.5 mm headphone jack. The mass of fools need enlightenment. They don't even know what they should like!
 
That's what I have been thinking as well. Apple is known to very slowly add new features to the iPhone. So yeah I too unfortunately do foresee an iPhone 7s especially one in product red coming out next year instead of the 8. But I guess we will find out as early as March since believe it or not in the last 3 years that's when the first leaked schematic usually got leaked out.

Yeah, they've nailed what is coming. Just not this early usually. Not to rain on the parade, but you'd have to be foolish to expect an iphone 8 given Apple's history of tick, tock til the more reliable rumors hit. Apple absolutely dominated with samsung's problems. Just more reason they can continue to iterate on the 7 series.
 
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I don't quite get what you mean? Are you saying that there are quite a lot of colour accurate OLED phones? If so which ones?

I've had every iPhone (not S models) since the first one so I would say iPhones are for me. One of the main reasons that photographers traditionally use apple is the fact that they are all using the same very accurate colour out of the box allowing us to use iPads, iPhones, MacBook Pro and the sadly now discountinued Thunderbolt Display and getting the same result on all of them.

I've yet to see an accurate OLED screen but still hoping Apple will be able to pull it off.
You said that you owned 3 of the most high end phones to be released in the last year. So of course Apple would LOVE to get you on the gravy train. Seems that you already are on the Apple warchest gravy train with your iphone owning history - so now you've owned 4 of the most high end phones in the last year. So my "Apple wishes you to join" is moot.

The other point was that Apple doesn't cater to THE most advanced features set, like you appear to be in. Do date, Apple doesn't have advanced display tech nor wireless charging, and they came YEARS late to the party with waterproofing, larger screen and multitasking.

Those were my only two points.
 
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If true, I personally don't care for the curved display. But OLED would be much welcomed.
Do you think this will mean improved battery usage? Since OLED consumes less power then I assume one battery charge would last longer than it does now OR do the new features erase that advantage?
 
Do you think this will mean improved battery usage? Since OLED consumes less power then I assume one battery charge would last longer than it does now OR do the new features erase that advantage?
EASY solution - Make the phone thinner, by putting in a smaller battery!!! Can't think of giving better performance to the end user, when you can make the phone slightly thinner.
 
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Disclaimer: I own a 2016 mbp with the touch bar and think it's amazing.

But I'm pretty worried about the iPhone anniversary. It seems like Apple is throwing a shot in the dark and seeing what sticks.
Is the 2016 mbp touch bar different to the 2015 one in any way? I heard about touch Id but not sure if thats to do with touchscreen or a touchpad on the keyboard ?

Also where are you from and how expensive is it there? Its 3000 quid here in the uk compared to the 2015 which is 1600
 
I'm not going to argue with you, but Apple went oled with their Watch. I'd say it has the best daylight performance of any Apple screen I've ever seen. Haven't heard or read of burn in complaints either. I say this all only to point out that they seem to have made a product without the "typical" issues assiciated with the tech.
The watch face is off for most of the time. Therefore it won't burn-in as fast.
 
Oh, yes. That's exactly what I need. A phone with glass on all surfaces that can't be protected by a case because it won't work properly if you can't touch the back.

"Ooh, cool" is not the same thing as practical.
 
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Don't EFFING curve the screen Apple. Just when you think a post jobs Apple product may have potential they do something stupid
 
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I think you may be a little confused. OLED substrate is thinner and lighter than the LCD substrate. The Gorilla Glass cover glass has always been there regardless of LCD or OLED. You've never touched the previous LCD screen. nor, if rumor is true, will you touch the OLED screen.
I'm not confused, so why write it to muddle the question? My comment was more about how the post was worded makes it sound like Apple is planning to take a plastic screen and put it under another layer of glass. There is nothing magical about OLED that makes it thinner; it simply has no backlight. Have you ever looked at how thick modern backlights are? Sheet of paper thin.

OLED is absolutely great for TV. TV has constant motion and is usually viewed in a fairly dim environment. These conditions are not true for mobile devices. Likewise, OLED is power inefficient with bright colors. Have you seen iOS lately?

I'd rather see Apple stick with LED or find something better than OLED. Yet, it seems like Apple is now run by marketing and sales executives... so yeah, the next iPhone will have OLED because it is "better".
 
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You said that you owned 3 of the most high end phones to be released in the last year. So of course Apple would LOVE to get you on the gravy train. Seems that you already are on the Apple warchest gravy train with your iphone owning history - so now you've owned 4 of the most high end phones in the last year. So my "Apple wishes you to join" is moot.

The other point was that Apple doesn't cater to THE most advanced features set, like you appear to be in. Do date, Apple doesn't have advanced display tech nor wireless charging, and they came YEARS late to the party with waterproofing, larger screen and multitasking.

Those were my only two points.
But they have the best in class soc. I guess that doesn't count. However Water resistance nor large screens are advanced features , they are trends.
 
Doubt we see a redesign in 2017. All this will get "delayed" as usual. Expect an iphone 7S.
Why do you say that? it's not like we're in April and these rumors are just starting. We know Apple designs their phones about 2-3 years in advance so it's just a matter of locking down suppliers and we have over 8 months to do that for this next phone.
 
Why do you say that? it's not like we're in April and these rumors are just starting. We know Apple designs their phones about 2-3 years in advance so it's just a matter of locking down suppliers and we have over 8 months to do that for this next phone.
Their are bulls and bears in every market. I'm very bullish next year
 
I'm not confused, so why write it to muddle the question? My comment was more about how the post was worded makes it sound like Apple is planning to take a plastic screen and put it under another layer of glass. There is nothing magical about OLED that makes it thinner; it simply has no backlight. Have you ever looked at how thick modern backlights are? Sheet of paper thin.

OLED is absolutely great for TV. TV has constant motion and is usually viewed in a fairly dim environment. These conditions are not true for mobile devices. Likewise, OLED is power inefficient with bright colors. Have you seen iOS lately?

I'd rather see Apple stick with LED or find something better than OLED. Yet, it seems like Apple is now run by marketing and sales executives... so yeah, the next iPhone will have OLED because it is "better".
Both technologies have advanced to the point that I don't think it matters much. Kind of like the cameras in most flagship smartphones too. OLED used to have bad burn in issues and oversaturated colors. LCD used to have poor contrast ratio and bad power efficiency. Apple could've gone OLED a few years back but they withheld for supply and design reasons. I honestly think if they don't tell anyone which they go with, no one will notice or care much...except pixel peepers on forums.
 
But they have the best in class soc. I guess that doesn't count. However Water resistance nor large screens are advanced features , they are trends.
This isn't a world of absolutes. Not sure why you are trying to apply what I said, to absolutes. Yes, Apple's SOC is amazing.
 
This is Apple's solution to people holding onto their products for what they deem "too long." By naming something "Pro" they can mark up the price for no good reason, and let's face it... If you're gonna buy, you GOTTA have the latest and greatest. Those other models will barely sell at all.

After the ceramic Apple Watch was introduced, I was really hoping to see that make its way to iPhone. Oh well, maybe in a few years time...
You're right. The smartphone market is like a tube of toothpaste getting squeezed from the bottom. Apple can't keep the bottom from being squeezed so in order to keep their ASP high, they keep making the tube of toothpaste longer.
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Their are bulls and bears in every market. I'm very bullish next year
OK but just like I think it's too soon to prognosticate on product releases, I also think it's too soon to predict how bullish you'll be before the year even begins. Market forces and a new President in January could change your opinion overnight.
 
Doubt we see a redesign in 2017. All this will get "delayed" as usual. Expect an iphone 7S.

I think you may be right about the 7S this year, with the phone being described being a "10th anniversary edition" or something like that this year, followed by an essentially identical IPhone 8 in 2018.
 
If you put a Galaxy S7 beside an iPhone 6s or even 7, Samsung's OLED displays look so much more brilliant. I can see why Apple wants to get on board with this tech.
 
You're right. The smartphone market is like a tube of toothpaste getting squeezed from the bottom. Apple can't keep the bottom from being squeezed so in order to keep their ASP high, they keep making the tube of toothpaste longer.
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OK but just like I think it's too soon to prognosticate on product releases, I also think it's too soon to predict how bullish you'll be before the year even begins. Market forces and a new President in January could change your opinion overnight.
If you have been following the market, specifically the suppliers - you would know what's coming.
 
Wireless charging is long overdue on the iPhone. OLED, with its hideous, garish, oversaturated colors, not so much. And curved, edge displays? Am I the only one to find these Samsung Edge phones utterly ridiculous and pointless? I have yet to see one of their owners actually use the feature. They usually "bought" the phone because it was one of the free choices when they qualified for a new phone discount.
 
Wireless charging is long overdue on the iPhone. OLED, with its hideous, garish, oversaturated colors, not so much. And curved, edge displays? Am I the only one to find these Samsung Edge phones utterly ridiculous and pointless? I have yet to see one of their owners actually use the feature. They usually "bought" the phone because it was one of the free choices when they qualified for a new phone discount.
Samsungs version of edge to edge display - in its current form (where the screen literally goes off the the edge) - is bad design and quite pointless. Sharp and Xiamoi have way better designs
 
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