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exactly. saving money is saving money, doesn't matter if you can afford it or not. getting a good deal/beating the system always feels good.

If I were to take my hat and sit on the street for a few days, I believe I would have got a few hundreds from people walking by, most of which were in quarters or $1 note though - same result, different means to achieve it. But never pride of myself for doing so.
 
If I were to take my hat and sit on the street for a few days, I believe I would have got a few hundreds from people walking by, most of which were in quarters or $1 note though - same result, different means to achieve it. But never pride of myself for doing so.

exactly. It's not something to take pride in, brag about, or promote. :mad:
 
There is a fair amount of difference between the 1.7GHz chip in the 13" and the 1.6GHz chip in the 11". The 1.7GHz chip Turbo Boosts to 2.4GHz with both cores running, compared to 2.1GHz for the 1.6GHz chip. That's the biggest difference.

Interestingly, ASUS plans to offer the 1.7GHz Core i5 in the 11.6" UX21 (along with an i7, and some cheaper variants, including likely i3). For whatever reason, Apple did not, even though they put the same i7 in both the 11" and 13". I'm guessing it was to keep the price down and encourage upsells to the i7.

It's actually a bigger difference...at least according to Intel's specs on their website: 1.6 i5 turbo's to 2.3 and the 1.7 i5 turbos to 2.7. 1.8 i7 turbos to 2.9.

And according to Intel's site the graphics end of the processor on the 1.7 are closer to that of the 1.8 i7, whereas the 1.6 is lacking some features. Whether this makes a difference in the real world is beyond me...not totally sure how you'd test that...

Intel's specs...I don't know if that's gonna show up right though.
 
Finally! I just received my 13" 4gb/128gb air. Compared to my 11", it seems huge! Now, I have to decide which one I keep and which one I sell?

With my 11", it has both Samsung ssd/panel; my 13" has Samung ssd - LG Phillips panel. Between the two displays, I can't see any difference. Personally, I don't care. However, since there are many who do, I will use it for selling purposes.
 
It's actually a bigger difference...at least according to Intel's specs on their website: 1.6 i5 turbo's to 2.3 and the 1.7 i5 turbos to 2.7. 1.8 i7 turbos to 2.9.

And according to Intel's site the graphics end of the processor on the 1.7 are closer to that of the 1.8 i7, whereas the 1.6 is lacking some features. Whether this makes a difference in the real world is beyond me...not totally sure how you'd test that...

Intel's specs...I don't know if that's gonna show up right though.

I was speaking to the turbo boost when both cores are operating, which is more relevant.

The difference in the graphics speed (1.15GHz vs 1.2GHz) likely isn't noticeable.
 
I got my 13" base today, ordered on August 6th so I'm excited to have finally gotten it. It has the LG display and Toshiba SSD but I do not care one bit, still love this computer the same.
 
Got my 8/6 13 base today. Loving it so far. Got the LG LCD and Samsung SSD. The difference between the SSDs is much bigger than the LCDs so I'm happy with that. Loving it so far!
 
I was speaking to the turbo boost when both cores are operating, which is more relevant.

The difference in the graphics speed (1.15GHz vs 1.2GHz) likely isn't noticeable.

So the turbo boost is reduced when both cores are operating? I didn't realize that. So how do you get the totals when calculating for the 1.8 i7? It's not 2.9 under dual core operation then...

I wasn't referring to the speed, but rather the other features listed below GP speed in the specs: "Intel HD graphics...HD Graphics Dynamic Frequency...Intel Virtualization Technology...etc." There's checks next to these features for the 1.7 but not the 1.6 under the comparison. Doubtful there's a real world difference, but wondered.
 
Today, I received my 13" air. When I checked the warranty dates, the site said that my telephone support had expired? Yes, I know that I will have to call Apple (it takes so long). However, I was just wondering if anyone had seen this and had a quick resolution?

Per iLoveiTunes suggestion, I removed the pic with my serial #. On my original computer. you could not make it out; on another, you could if you wanted to.
 
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I wasn't referring to the speed, but rather the other features listed below GP speed in the specs: "Intel HD graphics...HD Graphics Dynamic Frequency...Intel Virtualization Technology...etc." There's checks next to these features for the 1.7 but not the 1.6 under the comparison. Doubtful there's a real world difference, but wondered.

Here is a list of Sandy Bridge processors with maximum turbo boost speeds and other specifications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_bridge#Mobile_processors

What Turbo Boost does is effectively overclock the CPU. When only one core is running, it takes the current that would have powered the second core and ramps up the power to the other one, enabling it to run at a higher speed. When both cores are running, it will still overclock, but not as high, since that uses up power and also causes the CPU temperature to rise. The base rated speed (e.g. 1.6GHz - 1.8GHz) is the highest speed that it is rated to run with all cores running at its maximum temperature. If you run a CPU-intensive operation (such as encoding in Handbrake) and run a program that monitors the CPU speed (e.g. CPU-z in Windows), you'll see that the processor speed fluctuates between the rated speed and the Turbo Boost speed (as well as speeds in between). When idling, it can ratchet down to 800MHz (to save power and reduce heat).

The Intel HD Graphics, Dynamic Frequency, etc. are errors on the website, as the 1.6GHz i5 definitely has an HD 3000, and Dynamic Frequency (that's just "turbo boost" for the GPU).

The VT-d feature would allow programs like Parallels Desktop and VMWare Fusion to grant virtual machines direct access to certain hardware features, but they don't currently support it.
 
Here is a list of Sandy Bridge processors with maximum turbo boost speeds and other specifications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_bridge#Mobile_processors

What Turbo Boost does is effectively overclock the CPU. When only one core is running, it takes the current that would have powered the second core and ramps up the power to the other one, enabling it to run at a higher speed. When both cores are running, it will still overclock, but not as high, since that uses up power and also causes the CPU temperature to rise. The base rated speed (e.g. 1.6GHz - 1.8GHz) is the highest speed that it is rated to run with all cores running at its maximum temperature. If you run a CPU-intensive operation (such as encoding in Handbrake) and run a program that monitors the CPU speed (e.g. CPU-z in Windows), you'll see that the processor speed fluctuates between the rated speed and the Turbo Boost speed (as well as speeds in between). When idling, it can ratchet down to 800MHz (to save power and reduce heat).

The Intel HD Graphics, Dynamic Frequency, etc. are errors on the website, as the 1.6GHz i5 definitely has an HD 3000, and Dynamic Frequency (that's just "turbo boost" for the GPU).

The VT-d feature would allow programs like Parallels Desktop and VMWare Fusion to grant virtual machines direct access to certain hardware features, but they don't currently support it.

Thanks for that detailed explanation of the single core turn vs. dual core turbo. Was wondering what was up with the Intel site's graphics comparison too. Thanks for clarifying.
 
Today, I received my 13" air. When I checked the warranty dates, the site said that my telephone support had expired? Yes, I know that I will have to call Apple (it takes so long). However, I was just wondering if anyone had seen this and had a quick resolution?

I am in the same boat. People on apple forums suggested I call support to get that fixed. I did and they said that I was covered but not sure why the website said otherwise. Anyways, I'll hardly call them :)

BTW, be careful while posting any pics with your serial number in.
 
Today, I received my 13" air. When I checked the warranty dates, the site said that my telephone support had expired? Yes, I know that I will have to call Apple (it takes so long). However, I was just wondering if anyone had seen this and had a quick resolution?

Why not just do what the website says and submit proof of purchase to Apple?

That said, thanks for the heads up. I purchased one of these as a gift and will check to make sure that the warranty information is properly updated.

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exactly. It's not something to take pride in, brag about, or promote. :mad:

x2. Contrast that with this person, who was dissatisfied with Lion, got a refund, changed his mind after 10.7.1 came out, and now is contacting Apple to repay the $29.99 refund.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1220831/
 
Man, when are the 13" i5/4gb/128 going to be in stock? I have one on order. I already have a 11" i5/4gb/128 still sealed and contemplating on trying my last code to order either a 11" or 13" for myself and sell the other 2.
 
Man, when are the 13" i5/4gb/128 going to be in stock? I have one on order. I already have a 11" i5/4gb/128 still sealed and contemplating on trying my last code to order either a 11" or 13" for myself and sell the other 2.

I'll sell you mine for $1200 :D

I bought one while waiting for my i5/4gb/256gb which is arriving tomorrow. :D
 
I'll sell you mine for $1200 :D

I bought one while waiting for my i5/4gb/256gb which is arriving tomorrow. :D

I'm only buying it if I get 20% off from Amazon. I actually already have a buyer for the 13", hopefully it ships soon. I'm trying to sell the 11".
 
I am in the same boat. People on apple forums suggested I call support to get that fixed. I did and they said that I was covered but not sure why the website said otherwise. Anyways, I'll hardly call them :)

BTW, be careful while posting any pics with your serial number in.

I took the pic down-should have posted one without the # .

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Why not just do what the website says and submit proof of purchase to Apple?

Later, today, I will call, and if need be, I will submit proof.
 
so this whole saga continues to get stranger and stranger. today, i looked at my credit card and saw that there was a 1139.99 charge pending from amazon. This is the original price of the MBA, not the 20% off. I have no idea what is going on. Shipping status has not changed and charge for too much money looks to be going through.

i just want my computer.
 
Today, I received my 13" air. When I checked the warranty dates, the site said that my telephone support had expired? Yes, I know that I will have to call Apple (it takes so long). However, I was just wondering if anyone had seen this and had a quick resolution?

Per iLoveiTunes suggestion, I removed the pic with my serial #. On my original computer. you could not make it out; on another, you could if you wanted to.

The Air has only been released for 41 days. It's obviously impossible for the telephone support to have ended, no matter when you bought it.
 
The Air has only been released for 41 days. It's obviously impossible for the telephone support to have ended, no matter when you bought it.

Yeah, I haven't had time to call, yet. I was curious if this happened to others and if there was a quicker resolution than waiting on the line. Even though it's not been 90 days, I do want to know the date it ends. When I put in the serial # on Apple's support site, it says my AppleCare ends Sept 17, 2012? Obviously, there's something odd there, too. Later today, I will call.
 
I'm guessing Amazon got a shipment in of the base 13" Airs and then promptly ran out again. I ordered on 8/7 and it's never updated from Aug 31-Sep 26 estimated shipping. I got all excited too when people's orders started getting shipped. :(
 
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