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OK, so how many times has everyone clicked on the App Store icon so far today to check? I think I am up to 5...

Guys, the 14th of July release date was a rumor. A rumor. Lion will come in July, sometime. There is no definitive date and the more you get excited at rumors, the more you'll be disappointed when they don't pan out.

If you can't handle reading a Rumor site and taking every story with a grain of salt, stick to a news site.
 
All this hype for lion this week was misplaced.
Not until after earnings next week
Also devs need time to get submissions to app store

Next week people move along now:)

Now if it hits in 6 hours this will look real dumb:)

I'm sure it will be released this week :p
 
OK, so how many times has everyone clicked on the App Store icon so far today to check? I think I am up to 5...

Only twice, but I've probably refreshed MR 10 times hoping for a new thread that the Apple Store is down. Probably not happening today. Oh well, Apple has to wait another week to get my $$ for a new mini.
 
My suspicion is server issues holding up the release, which means the release won't be delayed very long. Remember the Mac App Store glitches that knocked the store intermittently offline for many users? That's the kind of thing that would hold Lion up.
 
Lots of individuals and small businesses used AppleWorks. The thing is Apple didn't give AppleWorks users a clear upgrade path. iWork is good, but it won't open all AppleWorks files. So there was no way to *upgrade* AppleWorks- only to switch to different software- be it iWork, the (in)famous MS Office, or otherwise.

True - but there are some options *if* you want to migrate. First you migrate what can be done without problems - save all of the documents as pdfs so you have a record of the originals - and then keep an old machine around just in case. More than likely, any document that is used a lot exists in a format that can be easily converted; or it will be easier to retype - or use a pdf - text conversion program and correct errors - than fire up an old machine.

Still a PIA. OTOH, you will be increasingly held hostage to machines and os versions that no longer exist and if it dies you may find it hard to get a working replacement; which is why I second the save as pdf option mentioned by another poster, if only to ensure you have a viable backup in an emergency.

It's the reason I won't make the mistake of trusting Apple in supporting their own formats again. Trouble is it's hard finding a good, Mac-like word processor. OpenOffice is great in price and features, but throws all Mac aesthetics and conventions out the window. That's why I still use Pages, though I have no doubt Apple will one day abandon those formats too. Maybe by that time I'll have perfected my batch conversion workflow.

Actually, that is not an Apple only issue - and is one that will be more prevalent as time goes on. Standards come and go - remember 8" disk drives? - and often there is no way to go back and retrieve data unless you have the original hardware. It's a lot like a dead language with no rosetta stone - whatever information was on them is lost forever.
 
With all due respect what enterprise environment voluntarily uses V1 of ANY software release? There will always always always be bugs in any new software product, that's pretty much inevitable with the sheer complexity not just of the software itself but the environment it operates in / connects to. By all means grab a copy or two for a test environment but a full blown rollout really needs to wait at least a few weeks for the initial bug reports to come in (and ideally until the first full blown patch at the earliest).

Kinda hard to avoid doing when you buy new hardware with it already installed.
 
All I can say is I would love to be a fly on the wall at Apple during this phase of migration and release of iCloud/the new data center/Lion (via the App Store)/upcoming iOS5/New MBA, MB, etc. Things must be pretty crazy and exciting at Apple HQ this month.
 
5.38am pst

when the apple store goes down? 6 or 6.30AM?

i am more interested in MBA/MB/MM than OS X Lion.

i am not beta testing Lion like iOS 5 :rolleyes:
 
All I can say is I would love to be a fly on the wall at Apple during this phase of migration and release of iCloud/the new data center/Lion (via the App Store)/upcoming iOS5/New MBA, MB, etc. Things must be pretty crazy and exciting at Apple HQ this month.

with 60B $ cash you better be excited than do nothing, that is lo$ of mo$iva$ion
 
If it is going to be released today, it probably won't be until the Apple stores open at 10am, which means I will have to wait until 6pm here in the UK. :(
I hope :apple: do release it today though.

I'm counting on the "overnighted" stuff that was supposedly happening today. If that is true, it must be released today. Watch the Apple Online Store and the App Store post Lion right as the stores open.

Apple likes to do things in an organized way, so that's how they'll probably do it.
 
MacBook Air and MacBook will be released when the apple store online goes down ...

OS Lion may take sometime get released either today or once it goes to 10.7.1

MBA,MB and MM are holding out for OS Lion GM - if i read correctly from all the non stop rumors...
 
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KnightWRX said:
OK, so how many times has everyone clicked on the App Store icon so far today to check? I think I am up to 5...

Guys, the 14th of July release date was a rumor. A rumor. Lion will come in July, sometime. There is no definitive date and the more you get excited at rumors, the more you'll be disappointed when they don't pan out.

If you can't handle reading a Rumor site and taking every story with a grain of salt, stick to a news site.

News site? LOL. News companies saying the same piece of information ten different ways over the course of an hour.. Mainly motivated by creating a buzz, very marginal academic soundness to what comes out of their mouth...

True, they're oft better than sheer "rumors". but I feel my time is nearly as pointlessly spent here on MR. :lol:

Now the Economist, that'll give me something to go on. :)
 
This doesn't make any sense. I don't see Lion having a huge list of features of SL, but it certainly has some. Especially in the productivity area. Running Lion on my current gen MBA is an entirely different experience with the full screen apps and three finger swipe to switch between workspaces.

People seem to be getting way to hung up on the iOS style app launcher and thinking Lion is some iOS bastardization.

In fact I'd say the opposite, those who don't get work done will see little benefit to Lion. It's biggest improvements (full screen apps, mission control, air drop, fast app switching, auto-save, resume) are all massive wins on the productivity front. If anything Lion lacks a flashy new UI to convince non-productivity centered people to buy it. All it really has in that department is the iOS style launcher, which at the end of the day amounts to basically a new folder view.
Well said mate. Those are really good examples of some of the few background tasks an operating system could do to improve software usage without getting in the way. Lion has some carefully thought out features. Also you are spot on about the app launcher. It seems people just won't look any deeper than an optional (iOS inspired) icon grid. I guess it's because it's an obvious flashy visual, and people can't be bothered to look at the much larger (but more transparent) practical changes.

Personally I'll still hold off a while on upgrading simply for an easier life, and I'm in two minds about the small steps away from a user-controlled file-system. I understand the benefits, but the transitional period worries me slightly as it's hard to mix two different conventions. I'm thinking out loud here though as I don't know the extent of the changes.
 
14th at 18:00 BST

Said every other date so I'm going for today (14th at 18:00 BST)
 
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Of course it isn't shipping this week. Apple just sent out the email to developers asking for Lion app store submissions. They're going to give them at least a week to do that, if not 2 weeks.
 
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News site? LOL. News companies saying the same piece of information ten different ways over the course of an hour.. Mainly motivated by creating a buzz, very marginal academic soundness to what comes out of their mouth...

True, they're oft better than sheer "rumors". but I feel my time is nearly as pointlessly spent here on MR. :lol:

Now the Economist, that'll give me something to go on. :)

The point is some posters seem to think everything that gets posted on the main page of Mac Rumors is a done deal. They fail to realise this is not a news aggregator, it's a rumor aggregator. A lot of the crap on the front page doesn't pan out. To state as fact something because you read it on MacRumors (Apple is delaying Lion because MacRumors said it was going to be released on the 14th!) just shows how much some posters lack critical thinking that goes with reading rumors.

A point which you seemed to have missed in your hurry to reply to my post and lambaste news agencies.
 
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Of course it isn't shipping this week. Apple just sent out the email to developers asking for Lion app store submissions. They're going to give them at least a week to do that, if not 2 weeks.

Then tell me what the overnighter today is about. I'm waiting to see what happens when the store opens...

It's being released today. Just hoping.
 
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