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I don't get the need for a DVD. such a waste. burning, printing, distribution...
Software update it. or at least an installer download. :apple:

The installer needs exclusive access to the system so it can write certain portions of it. That requires burning a disc or another medium. Having Apple do it ensures reliability and quality control from Apple's perspective. Not to mention that the vast majority of their customers do not have the infrastructure needed to maintaina 6 gig download (nor would ISP's be a big fan of that) to justify maintaining servers for such a large download - the costs would not just be there.
 
I don't get the need for a DVD. such a waste. burning, printing, distribution...
Software update it. or at least an installer download. :apple:

Not everyone has the ability to download the entire OS install.
 
The installer needs exclusive access to the system so it can write certain portions of it. That requires burning a disc or another medium.

If you can copy the DVD to the hard-drive, and install from that directory, then your premise is faulty.

(I don't know if this is possible on OSX, but you can do this with other OS installs. You can copy the Windows DVD to the system drive, double-click setup and install. The first reboot is to a temporary system that it runs to do the actual upgrade.)
 
It's strange that Apple didn't ask to remove those pictures.

Maybe not to confirm they are real? If they ask the removal, the packaging is real and people would know it.
Who knows.
:confused:

There's still some mystery around it.
 
It is very strange timing though, coming so soon after the Snow Leopard desktop images are posted up on the web. Someone with too much time on their hands maybe?

Or its the real deal. We'll soon find out I guess.
 
The Amazon removal of the pink space box and blue for the server version makes me think this is real.
The bar code too.
My Leopard disc number is 2Z691-6037-A.

iLife '09 is 6328, iWork '09 Trial is 6325, this Snow Leopard says 6428.
Who has iWork '09 retail could check what number is displayed on the disk.

The latest Apple software released should be close to number 6428...

:D
 
I don't get the need for a DVD. such a waste. burning, printing, distribution...
Software update it. or at least an installer download. :apple:

Agree, I could not care less what it looks like, I think Apple are not too far from implementing download install just as another environmental incentive. Save the planet by wasting less trees and stuff like that and really it is less hassle no more waiting for it to arrive just download and install - perfect!!!
 
You don't need to manually set it because it can be automatically checked and adjusted according to network conditions - something that has been done on Windows for years.



But this isn't Leopard - this is Snow Leopard, a different beast with different aims and a different testing regime. Oh, and the only reason why there was another build was to change the way in which the dock handled being on the side of the screen. If it weren't for that change, it wouldn't have been built again.

Not really. The GM build of Leopard was around 10 builds higher than the one people thought was GM. So it wasn't a simple dock fix which was different. I remember other bugfixes in the GM since I had used the older build for a while before I installed the GM.

And even though streaming bandwidth can be easily done automatically it still doesn't explain why they would remove it totally. And QT player does not have any preferences at all right now.

Anyway, apart from all that there are other minor glitches on 10A432, I'd bet it's not the GM. And there's 1.5 months still, Apple needs around 2 weeks to ship the discs to retail stores. They can seed couple more builds easily.
 
Like what?



Examples of things missing - Apple does keep some things in English because of branding.



QTX is only a player - where did Apple said it was going to be as extensive as Quicktime 7?



So? whats your point?



Apple never said that those were going to get 64bit kernels. You can run 64bit binaries on a 32bit kernel and those applications can access more than 4GB of memory.



The problem is with your computer - not with Snow Leopard.



Evidence being....?



Again, what evidence do you have to support your conclusion?

You bad experience as the result of your dodgy hardware is some how a benchmark to the release date of Snow Leopard?

If there was going to be another build; it would have been out by now - traditionally if they are getting to the end, there would have been a quick succession of releases; that hasn't happened.

On one hand 10A432 has been called GM by a reliable source, and you're stating it isn't because you have faulty hardware. Colour me unimpressed by your logic.

Your response on my post has no merit due to it's nonfactual reply. When your answer is something like, "So? whats your point?", seems you are, not thinking, or have not done your research, OR you have not even used 10A432 at all.

As for blaming my machine for the problems, think what you want. I know what I have and it should run SL 64bit right after install.

As for you hearing that 10A432 is GM from "reliable sources". What reliable source? Apple? No, you get your disinfo from RUMOR MILLS like this one.
 
Your response on my post has no merit due to it's nonfactual reply. When your answer is something like, "So? whats your point?", seems you are, not thinking, or have not done your research, OR you have not even used 10A432 at all.

As for blaming my machine for the problems, think what you want. I know what I have and it should run SL 64bit right after install.

As for you hearing that 10A432 is GM from "reliable sources". What reliable source? Apple? No, you get your disinfo from RUMOR MILLS like this one.

You didn't listed your sources either....
 
Not for me or anyone with a decent internet conection.

But at the same time, I'm only paying $10 for SL, which is worth it for the DVD and box alone.

Lets see. My friend has a decent internet. Nearly $100 a month, and 12 gigs a month. Ignorant people that think everyone has as good internet as you. Over here people regularly download, with Broadband, at 30-60 kb/s. Too slow to download an OS. Plus a lot of people only have 12 gigs a month. I am lucky and have 40, but still wouldn't want to download a 7 gig file and get capped.
 
You didn't listed your sources either....

I'm speaking from my own experience with 10A432. So then that makes ME the source. I hear the rumors going around, I verify if they are true or not simply by testing 10A432.

Everything in my post is verified by my experience. If you don't want to believe it, who cares. It's still not going to change the FACTS.

Facts like, I had to modify my boot.plist with "arch=x86_64" to get my 64bit compatible machine to boot with the 64bit kernel after install. So what is Apple going to say? "We did not enable 64bit default install on the GM. But if you modify your com.apple.boot.plist you can get it to work, or just wait till 10.6.1"...
 
I'm speaking from my own experience with 10A432. So then that makes ME the source. I hear the rumors going around, I verify if they are true or not simply by testing 10A432.

Everything in my post is verified by my experience. If you don't want to believe it, who cares. It's still not going to change the FACTS.

Facts like, I had to modify my boot.plist with "arch=x86_64" to get my 64bit compatible machine to boot with the 64bit kernel after install. So what is Apple going to say? "We did not enable 64bit default install on the GM. But if you modify your com.apple.boot.plist you can get it to work, or just wait till 10.6.1"...

Apple never promised K64 for SL. Only 64 bit Apps. K64 is extra. And it SHOULD NOT be enabled by default on ANY shipping machine since almost no 3rd party kexts are ready for it at the moment.

But I also don't think 432 is GM. It's way too glitchy to be a GM. Apple still has a month to roll out couple seeds before GM.
 
Facts like, I had to modify my boot.plist with "arch=x86_64" to get my 64bit compatible machine to boot with the 64bit kernel after install. So what is Apple going to say? "We did not enable 64bit default install on the GM. But if you modify your com.apple.boot.plist you can get it to work, or just wait till 10.6.1"...
why did you not do it properly and alter the boot-args in nvram instead of messing about with com.apple.boot.plist
 
I support all initiatives to make possible downloading software instead of having to buy DVDs.
 
Oh please, dont tell me that you are still surfing the net by using dial-up.

imagine you have 1 million people downloading 7GB of data from apples servers within a week. You're talking about 7 petabytes being uploaded by the apple servers.

this is why they press dvd's.
 
why did you not do it properly and alter the boot-args in nvram instead of messing about with com.apple.boot.plist

I'm using it on a test machine, I go back and forth 32/64. It's easier for me that way, just replace file.
 
I support all initiatives to make possible downloading software instead of having to buy DVDs.

As do I, but lets first get our bandwidth infrastructure in the US (where Apple is located) to the point that we can actually download those files within a reasonable time frame (with QOS) and ensure that Apple's servers don't choke on millions of customers hitting their servers. Until that happens, disc distribution is gong to stay cheaper and a more reasonable method of large distribution.

There is a reason that HD video content is largely sold on Disc, its just not feasible to pipe it to everybody. The US infrastructure is pitifully bad with the monopolies controlling things as it stands..
 
Lets see. My friend has a decent internet. Nearly $100 a month, and 12 gigs a month. Ignorant people that think everyone has as good internet as you. Over here people regularly download, with Broadband, at 30-60 kb/s. Too slow to download an OS. Plus a lot of people only have 12 gigs a month. I am lucky and have 40, but still wouldn't want to download a 7 gig file and get capped.

I clearly didn’t mean it was feasible for everyone in the world.

But for a large percentage of customers in the US, Canada and EU it could be a cheaper alternative
 
Not dial up

Oh please, dont tell me that you are still surfing the net by using dial-up.

I'm not on dial up, but DSL isn't going fast enough to download a 7gig file. It would take hours to download. It's just as easy to get a DVD then downloading a file that will take forever (well it will seem that way.). :/

Hugh
 
What is it with you people and everything going digital and to the net? Whats worng with physical media? An OS is only good on physical media (that includes USB flash drives)
 
What is it with you people and everything going digital and to the net? Whats worng with physical media? An OS is only good on physical media (that includes USB flash drives)

I'd like to be seeded the GM now and as soon it's available I want the physical familiy box.
 
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