No issues with my 4K HDR Samsung. All is normal here.
Edit: From the reports I have read, Vizio and LG OLED TV's are the reported models suffering from the compatibility.
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No issues with my 4K HDR Samsung. All is normal here.
Edit: From the reports I have read, Vizio and LG OLED TV's are the reported models suffering from the compatibility.
They found a couple FPS worse performance in Skyrim in specific areas. However in game it's indistinguishable between the original PS4. At this time I wouldn't let that affect a buying decision.
That the nature of FPS drops. Since they weren't programmed intentionally the FPS drops will vary slightly between the two systems. Conversely the FPS drops in MW2 remastered aren't as bad on the PS4 Pro as the PS4 but still exist. Again though I wouldn't recommend the PS4 Pro for MW2 specifically for better FPS. They are just too close to notice.
[doublepost=1479128360][/doublepost]As far as compatibility goes. I have as Samsung KS9000 and the PS4 Pro detects 4K and 2K/4K HDR. However Netflix app doesn't detect HDR. It says 'Ultra HD' not 'HDR'. I don't have any content to test HDR with.
Not sure what that's about.
Feel even worse now, after seeing a deal on a Sony 55" 4K and PS4 Pro for $899, although that deal was for a lower end model. I paid $1k for a close-out on a 2015 XBR-850C, one of the last to have 3D which I wanted to keep for my collection of 3D Blu-rays.
This whole can of 4K worm started when Target had a 4K LG 49" for $380 last year. It had picture quality much worse than a 2012 Sony 1080P I had. Sold it and bought the Sony XBR 850C, which I do love as it has fantastic motion handling. It'll even do 120Hz at 1080P from my PC.
Anyway, I'm done with TVs for a long time. Until, one of those lovely LG OLED 4K falls below $1000 that is
The worse performance was a single game running normally at 60 fps and it was 1-2 frames difference. Digital Foundry as good as they are were essentially making click bait video on that one.
No issues with HDCP here as my TV fully supports 2.2
This is getting out of hand (or I am, rather)
Just picked up Fifa 17 for $30 (Walmart.com, price matched at Best Buy)-- first sports game I've bought since before xbox 360 haha. 4k 60fps running on Frostbite sealed the deal for me.
and UC4 on the way from Gamefly, $25 used.
Now I have Battlefield 1, Titanfall 2, Last of Us, Ratchet and Clank, Black Ops III, Fifa 17, and on the way Uncharted4
woo!
All I'll need is Rise of Tomb Raider when I find a great deal on it, and I'm set indefinitely.
Just picked up Fifa 17 for $30 (Walmart.com, price matched at Best Buy)-- first sports game I've bought since before xbox 360 haha. 4k 60fps running on Frostbite sealed the deal for me.
and UC4 on the way from Gamefly, $25 used.
Now I have Battlefield 1, Titanfall 2, Last of Us, Ratchet and Clank, Black Ops III, Fifa 17, and on the way Uncharted4
woo!
All I'll need is Rise of Tomb Raider when I find a great deal on it, and I'm set indefinitely.
Yeah it just struck me as petty. If we were talking terrible frame rates fair enough, but we were talking just a couple on a 60 fps game which 99.5% of players would never notice, yet they framed it like a 'big deal' which seemed, well, odd ...
Haha it's only a problem if those games don't interest you otherwise.
I really really want a game that utilizes HDR but all the known titles (known to me anyway) that are HDR don't interest me. I almost bought Rachet and Clank specifically for HDR but refrained at the last minute. So now I'm "patiently" waiting.
I don't think Bethesda have updated Fallout 4 yet but to the best of my knowledge they intend too. Hopefully they will be do more than just a resolution bump.
I think it worth pointing out though. In Skyrim the game is super sampled to 1080p meaning that if you don't have a 4K tv the experience is objectively worse on the PS4P, albeit not enough to notice.
The problem is the unpredictable nature of frame rate drops. If a game drops to 15 FPS on the PS4 it would be extremely difficult to make the PS4P 16 FPS or higher. So they would need to dumb down the graphics to have an all encompassing higher frame rate just to be on the safe side.
FPS drops on a console are annoying as hell. It's not like I can upgrade the GPU.
Feel even worse now, after seeing a deal on a Sony 55" 4K and PS4 Pro for $899, although that deal was for a lower end model. I paid $1k for a close-out on a 2015 XBR-850C, one of the last to have 3D which I wanted to keep for my collection of 3D Blu-rays.
This whole can of 4K worm started when Target had a 4K LG 49" for $380 last year. It had picture quality much worse than a 2012 Sony 1080P I had. Sold it and bought the Sony XBR 850C, which I do love as it has fantastic motion handling. It'll even do 120Hz at 1080P from my PC.
Anyway, I'm done with TVs for a long time. Until, one of those lovely LG OLED 4K falls below $1000 that is
I saw this deal advertised with PS4 Pro and the Sony TV. The reviews are somewhat mixed for this TV, but the deal is fairly tempting, even though I already have the Pro.
I mentioned to another forum member earlier, stay away from low end 4K TV's. If one can afford it, the higher end models offer more in terms of updated hardware and chip sets.
I'm hearing the latency is high on 4K HDR sets. Some have "game mode" which actually lowers the picture quality to lower the latency.
Something to consider when buying a 4K set.
http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/
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You can adjust these settings and turn off Game mode if need be. I haven't noticed any latency issues with my Samsung 4K TV. Then again, I just purchased mine a week ago.
^ My LG has game mode and it just simply disables some of the filtering settings however quality otherwise is the same except it's less latency. YMMV though.
Game mode typically reduces or completely eliminates post processing. Quality, if anything it's more 'native' however visual fidelity is certainly reduced.
Video interpolation is usually the biggest culprit for high response time. As long as your not a competitive gamer you might be about to get away with just turning that off.
Game mode on my 4K Samsung TV doesn't look bad at all and is the main reason I bought it (~20ms).
Yeah the LG 49" I bought for $380 had very washed out colors and bad motion blur. The Sony I bought afterwards has excellent color and motion handling, at more than 2.5x the price of course lol. It is able to mimic 60fps playing Ratchet & Clank in 4K with its interpolation processing with very minimal artifacting and tiny bit of lag. It's gotta have some serious processing power in the TV to do that in realtime. The 2012 Sony 1080 I had (still have sitting in the basement lol) could mimic 60fps, but had a lot more artifacting and very bad input lag when I enable the interpolation processing.
While it may very well have been click bait, I hope the Digital Foundry article regarding 1080p framerate issues with the Pro on certain games will gain enough traction so developers will start making 1080p/60FPS top priority on the Pro.
I will take 1080p/60FPS over 2160p/30FPS any day of the week!
I will take 1080p/60FPS over 2160p/30FPS any day of the week!
Again, I think it's also pending on what you are using for a 4K TV. Its low end 4K TV's that are reporting driver compatible issues from the reports I have read. Sony is blaming the TV manufacturers and Vice Versa.
Either way, firmware updates can resolve the issue. It sounds like high end 4K TV's are Immune to the issues reported. The biggest culprit appears to be Vizio TV's, which doesn't shock me.
In a few years, I can see myself investing in a nice OLED tv. Until then, all the tech and standards (4k? UHD? HDR versions? HDMI versions?) need to settle and mature a bit. This time last year, HDR was just one of many buzzwords floating around with new tv's, and now it seems like a semi-well established standard. Who knows what else will come along in the next couple of years.
4K HDR isn't really that new and it's evolving. But the industry is leading to 4K with cable and satellite following. Actually, HDR is a few years old in terms of what TV's have been using and now HDR is Moving to Dolby HDR 10, which very few manufacturers offer besides Samsung and LG.
For the typical household, I don't think one has to spend $3,000 on a TV. But to really appreciate its true capabilities what 4K HDR can do, consoles are finally taking advantage of the power for gamers.
If you decide for a high end TV, Samsung and LG are leading the way, in my opinion.
This is precisely what I am talking about. I bought a Panasonic 4k tv in December which doesn't do HDR. It was one of many higher end features floating around in top dollar tv's at the time. Now I hear about different versions of HDR, compatibility issues, etc... Like you said, it's still evolving rapidly. I want this to be more settled before I invest in a new tv.
I agree. Manufacturers do move quickly as Technology will permit them too.
Technology and copyrights / patents. Those damn patents are like a plague by now.