Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
at 20% warning I am rarely, if ever, past 4 hours of usage.

No Ipod
No Maps

Only Email, Safari, Voicemail, Phone, Calendar
Location OFF
Brightness - about 20% - auto ON
3G on about 20% of the time
Wifi on about 80% of the time


Should I return the phone?
 
at 20% warning I am rarely, if ever, past 4 hours of usage.

No Ipod
No Maps

Only Email, Safari, Voicemail, Phone, Calendar
Location OFF
Brightness - about 20% - auto ON
3G on about 20% of the time
Wifi on about 80% of the time


Should I return the phone?

Whats your standby? My first 3g had issues because when it was sitting on my desk it'd log usage data for no reason (something was draining the battery). After trying a restore and soft reset I decided to take it back on Friday because I took it off the charger at 7:30, was barely doing anything with it and was at 30% or so by 11. Apple swapped it out and usage/Standby ratios are much better now. It still logs 1 minute about every 10 of standby; probably because of push.

In any case if you watch your usage/standby ratio I think that'll give you a better idea as to whether you might have a problem.
 
Whats your standby? My first 3g had issues because when it was sitting on my desk it'd log usage data for no reason (something was draining the battery). After trying a restore and soft reset I decided to take it back on Friday because I took it off the charger at 7:30, was barely doing anything with it and was at 30% or so by 11. Apple swapped it out and usage/Standby ratios are much better now. It still logs 1 minute about every 10 of standby; probably because of push.

In any case if you watch your usage/standby ratio I think that'll give you a better idea as to whether you might have a problem.

That was a problem for me and was related to the mail hang issue reported here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7851177#7851177

I have fixed that. I get 16 hours standby at that point. I just dont get how people are getting 5 hours and I am rarely above 4. I thought apple rates the phone at 5 hours browse time, which is basically what I am doing 90% of the time.
 
That was a problem for me and was related to the mail hang issue reported here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7851177#7851177

I have fixed that. I get 16 hours standby at that point. I just dont get how people are getting 5 hours and I am rarely above 4. I thought apple rates the phone at 5 hours browse time, which is basically what I am doing 90% of the time.

Well the 5 hours is constant usage and doesn't include standby and others. I'd guess you are on par but if you aren't happy with its numbers, take it back. My first phone was literally 4 hrs usage, 5 hrs standby and maybe - MAYBE - I was using it 2 of those hours, the other 2 it was on my desktop idle.
 
Shouldn't we come up with a way to test the battery? Like... do a full charge and use all the same settings and come up with a controlled way to use the battery. Then the results would be more accurate. You never know if the person is using some intense apps or if they're just checking their email every so often.
 
at 20% warning I am rarely, if ever, past 4 hours of usage.

No Ipod
No Maps

Only Email, Safari, Voicemail, Phone, Calendar
Location OFF
Brightness - about 20% - auto ON
3G on about 20% of the time
Wifi on about 80% of the time


Should I return the phone?

My phone can run for a good while after receiving the 20% warning......run it right down, and see what you get from a full charge.
 
This is my usage. The iPhone completely died so I had to plug it in to get back to the home screen.

Anyways... that's 3 hours and 48 minutes of nothing but Crash Bandicoot Racing. The sound was off and wifi was on. Not too shabby. I bet 3D games take a lot of juice. Also, the screen did not go off the entire time. I had my sleep settings set to never.... it didn't even dim.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0008.jpg
    IMG_0008.jpg
    46.5 KB · Views: 68
I bet 3D games take a lot of juice. Also, the screen did not go off the entire time. I had my sleep settings set to never.... it didn't even dim.

I'm pretty sure you're right. I did an hour or so straight of Motion X Poker, and it really sapped my battery.
 
The absolute worst seems to be 3G where the reception is low and is permanently used.

Personally, I think some people have lied in this thread. It's very easy to manipulate screenshots. Any insane numbers we see are most likely bogus posts. Batteries vary slightly, but it's impossible to get some of these numbers. Not unlikely, impossible.
I had the bug today where standby and usage times count in parallel. And the battery wasn't being used more, so if I had just let it sit around for two days I could probably have posted screenshots with 40+ hours of usage.

What do you make of this? Note it's still "in the green".
9h_use.png

Just a day of MP3's...
 
Shouldn't we come up with a way to test the battery? Like... do a full charge and use all the same settings and come up with a controlled way to use the battery. Then the results would be more accurate. You never know if the person is using some intense apps or if they're just checking their email every so often.

As I left the Apple store today, having secured a replacement phone (not for another week or so, but the deal is done at least) I had the same brainstorm.

It would seem to me that an App developer should be able, in 15 minutes, whip up an app that performs a standardized test. Set the phone down for a couple hours in a good location (or a bad one, up to you) and it runs through a script - turning off and on location services, browsing web pages on and off 3G, playing music, playing videos found in your collection. Finally generating a report.

Cmon developers! I KNOW that everyone posting on this thread would pay $3 for that app, you've got a couple hundred in sales on day 1!
 
apple.com said:
Video playback: Testing conducted by Apple in May and June 2008 using preproduction iPhone 3G units and software. Video content consisted of a repeated 2-hour 23-minute movie purchased from the iTunes Store. All settings were default except: Call Forwarding was turned on; the Wi-Fi feature Ask to Join Networks and Auto-Brightness were turned off. Wi-Fi was enabled but not associated with a network. Battery life depends on the cellular network, location, signal strength, feature configuration, usage, and many other factors. Battery tests are conducted using specific iPhone units; actual results may vary.

You can check your battery by doing this and seeing if you get 7hrs as apple lists.
 
Here's mine, this came a few minutes after the 20% warning. This is basically the best i've ever got.

3G = On
WiFi = Off (only put it on when I'm going to use a network)
Location Services = Off
Push = Off

My Usage: 90% calls, 5% 3G internet, 5% WiFi internet, 0% iPod.
 

Attachments

  • battery.jpg
    battery.jpg
    54.8 KB · Views: 66
today I'm seeing a drastic improvement in battery.

I used to have 3g, wifi, location services, push on and bluetooth and fetch off.
This morning, before leaving home, I turned wifi off, leaving ·g, location services, push on and blutooth, fetch off.

Normally any other day I would be half way through my battery by now. Today, however, the level is almost full (10% used).

I will post the stats tomorrow; since I had to restart my iphone today the stats just reset themselves.
 
Although I didn't read all posts and checked all posted screenshots, it makes no sense to forge results, at least judging from the screenshots that I did see.

Testing conditions vary but the average should be around what Apple claims to be, for they themselves must have done due diligence testing and posted not their best results but rather either conservative or median/mean values.

To get a better idea of how well your battery performs, jailbreak your phone, install BossPrefs and enable numeric battery -- it will allow you to switch between the graphic bar and numbers by tapping the battery indicator. iPhone shows 100% green when in fact the battery is 90% charged, for instance.

Then... run tests like: browsing for 10 minutes and measuring how much battery juice you consume. Heck, you don't even need to go on for 3-4-5-6 straight hours and just use a simple formula to calculate how much browsing you'll get if you know how much 10 minutes of browsing consumes the battery. Obviously, that's provided the battery demonstrates equal performance, be it at 100% or 10% charge. It should though.

My talk time is around ~4 hours (+/- 10 or so minutes). I get ~24 minutes on 3G (full signal with all bars, PUSH and any other background process--such as SSH--off) for every ~10% battery charge.

Make your screenshots with the numeric battery indicator, not the graphic bar.

Cheers.

Do batteries drain linearly? I don't really know about this stuff...

For me, when I get the 20% warning, I can do 1 hour and 15 minutes around of 3G browsing. That tells me that my battery is OK. Another logical way is to do an iPod test...see how long it can play music for...it should be able to play for about a day.
 
Went to bed around midnight last night, the battery was around 75% and usage was at 5.5 hours (everything on except 3G and wifi connected to my home network). Woke up this morning around 7:30 and the battery was at about 33% but the usage was at 12 hours! What could it have been doing that it was at least a little awake for pretty much the entire night and how do I make sure that doesn't happen anymore?
 
3g On All Day, 15 hrs standby until dead battery

I took screenshots near the end of the day. The phone was unplugged from the charger at 9:30am. I used it all day on 3G. WiFi was used for at most 30 minutes all day. I decided to not plug in to the car stereo so as not to add any additional charge to the phone.
Push was off, location was off and fetch was set to 1 hour. Brightness was way low and auto brightness was off.
BY 8:26pm the phone crashed and usage was erased, but I kept taking screenshots until 12:27am when the phone was dead and shut down prompting me to charge it.
So in all usage was about 2.5 hours and standby was 15 hours.
Today I am trying the same experiment with mobileme PUSH all on.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0002.PNG
    IMG_0002.PNG
    40.7 KB · Views: 94
  • IMG_0005.PNG
    IMG_0005.PNG
    41.4 KB · Views: 85
  • IMG_0010.PNG
    IMG_0010.PNG
    41.1 KB · Views: 86
  • IMG_0013.PNG
    IMG_0013.PNG
    128.9 KB · Views: 74
  • IMG_0017.PNG
    IMG_0017.PNG
    104.7 KB · Views: 79
WTF Apple!

I don't have the time or patience to go into what I have already done including speaking and going to both AT&T and Apple, but here's the latest.

Yesterday I had an appointment at the Crapple store. The so called 'Genius' was an ass! He said oh everything is normal. Oh really? Freezing, crashing, bad battery... If that's normal to Apple they have serious issues.

I love the phone but the battery SUCKS!!!:mad:

New tagline: "The new Apple iPhone 3G, it may be too cool for words but the battery sucks and it will freeze on you. Enjoy!"
 

Attachments

  • usage3.jpg
    usage3.jpg
    43.5 KB · Views: 73
I don't have the time or patience to go into what I have already done including speaking and going to both AT&T and Apple, but here's the latest.

Yesterday I had an appointment at the Crapple store. The so called 'Genius' was an ass! He said oh everything is normal. Oh really? Freezing, crashing, bad battery... If that's normal to Apple they have serious issues.

I love the phone but the battery SUCKS!!!:mad:

New tagline: "The new Apple iPhone 3G, it may be too cool for words but the battery sucks and it will freeze on you. Enjoy!"

What were you doing on the iPhone during that time?
 
So I did a little experiment yesterday and turned on everything for the entire day (3G, WiFi, Location Services, Push, etc). I was able to get almost 5 hours of usage before getting the 20% warning. Standby time was probably around 15 hours or so.

I was pleased with the results. I'm not a heavy iPhone user, so the battery life isn't that big of a deal for me.
 
This may have already been answered and I have missed it.

My usage seems to be out of whack.

@3:00pm

Usage: 8 hours and 52 minutes
Standby: 18 hours and 19 minutes

@3:36pm (time of writing post)

Usage: 9 hours and 29 minutes
Standby: 18 hours and 56 minutes

in between that time my phone has been asleep and I have been working. So where is the usage coming from?

I have 2 email accounts. gMail (1 hour fetch) and mail2web (push)

I have apps installed:
Aim (hardly use, none today)
MySpace (hardly use, none today)
Facebook (occasionally, once today (5 minutes))
Weatherbug (used today 3 times)
Apple Remote (twice since it came out)
Here I am (twice since I downloaded, none today)
Where (none today)
Pandora (none today)
Sudoku (none today)
PegJump (none today)
Light (none today)
CubesLite (none today)
Path Tracker (on my way to work to test it out (15~20 min)
GPS Tracker (on my way to and from lunch (15~20 min)

Screen is maybe at 1/3 brightness with auto dim

Bluetooth off

3G is off and Edge only

Location Services on only when using GPS apps and turned them off after usage.

I would say my call time today has been around 45 minutes, maybe upto an hour total.

Anyone have any ideas? I know there have been battery usage issues for many other people, just curious if any problems like mine?

@time of ending post (just got off 5 minute call)
Usage: 9 hour and 39 minutes
Standby: 19 hours and 7 minutes
 
I've been on vacation so I haven't been using the phone as much, but I still thought this was good.

This is similar to what I achieved whilst I was in Paris last week..
Not using the phone as much, mainly for apps that were downloaded and could be used offline, very little WiFi... some texting.
 

Attachments

  • -1.jpg
    -1.jpg
    43 KB · Views: 74
I wish I could come close to this.

I get about 3:30 usage and about 16 hours standby before my phone is so dead it won't come on and I have to charge it.

And I don't really use the phone all THAT much either.

Occasional web surf, some days not at all. Mostly phone and email.

This is similar to what I achieved whilst I was in Paris last week..
Not using the phone as much, mainly for apps that were downloaded and could be used offline, very little WiFi... some texting.
 
So I got up this morning and I had charged my phone last night and it was unplugged before I went to bed. I got up this morning and looked at the usage. Both Usage and Standby were both identical at 10 hours and 18 minutes. I was asleep!!

Could it be an app that is keeping an open connection? The battery was half gone when I got up this morning. This doesn't usually happen to be honest. I have unplugged it at night before and I wake up and the battery is still basically full.

Anyone else having the same experience?
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.