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To me, the insult comes less from the modest price increases, than from the fact that the economy is slowly imploding and they have the nerve to increase prices on an already barely-enough product. Just seems like a weird move.

On the plus side it did help me decide that I can cut that out of my budget entirely. So in the end it saved me money. Thanks Apple!
 
I wouldn't mind this if we could be guaranteed that the money is indeed going to them, and that their pay raises will be nontrivial. Not just "we're giving them a $1 an hour raise", and taking credit for that like it'll have any noticeable impact on their cost of living.


Heh... I had to deal with a similar thing when I purchased my 9th gen iPad. 64 GB of storage, or a whopping 256 GB. The latter is also a whopping +$150 to the price of the iPad. I would've liked to have the option to pay half of that to go 128 GB, or to 192 GB. I initially regretted springing for 64 GB. In my defense, I did plan for 64 GB to be more than enough. I'll play a few games, but otherwise, it's a gaming device with some consumption. No multi-media really*, nor productivity. AA was the wrench in the works, esp. given how some of the games eat up 2 GB to 10 GB apiece! ATV+ would've been nice to download some content for offline viewing, but I rarely travel, so it didn't really come up. I've come to accept that 64 GB was the right call. I'm busy with other games (iOS not requiring AA, and Android), and also busy with other streaming services, so that extra money would've gone to waste!

* I still need to look up how to transfer files to and from my PC, as it's no longer plug and play out of the box

Apple has done this for as long as I can remember. Easily back before the Intel transition at the very least. The base model never had quite enough RAM or storage or both, and the only option was to quadruple it. They have always very deliberately not offered a sweet spot option.
 
I wouldn't mind this if we could be guaranteed that the money is indeed going to them, and that their pay raises will be nontrivial. Not just "we're giving them a $1 an hour raise", and taking credit for that like it'll have any noticeable impact on their cost of living.
Yes everything is rising especially needs, so even $1/h isn't evne close to breaking even.
 
HBO is my favorite by far. Always stuff I like on there, and even with ads, they periodically show one 30s ad at a time. Not like the ones that go 3-5+ minutes

I just hope the Discovery merger doesn’t mess it up. But it survived AT&T (barely), so hopefully it can’t be any worse than that.
 
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Most of us who are “hooked“ as you say are not irrational. We have evaluated the tradeoffs of accepting increases or leaving and come to the rational conclusion that the juice associated with leaving is not worth the squeeze. I have seen a lot of people complain about those big bad corporations much as yourself, but they think nothing of buying $6 lattes that cost $4 just a couple of years ago at Starbucks. It’s all relative, not to mention personal.
It's anecdotal, but FWIW, the people I've known who are voicing their concerns about upped sub costs have long stopped buying coffee at Starbucks or any other coffee shop.
Every company exist for the purpose of making money. However, some companies push to get more profits every quarter. Not just make money but make more in records. If more people took a stand with their wallet maybe, they’ll at lease try not to squeeze every penny. But people just pay. They have no need to compete or drop prices. People complain but they still pay no matter what. They are hooked so deep that they spend money they don’t have on things they don’t need for reasons no one knows. Sad but it is what it is.
Some are cozy but also quite hooked into the Apple ecosystem. As creatures of comfort, I can't say I blame them. However, major shake ups would truly test those "loyalties" (like with the CASM situation, and Apple's talks of putting more ads in their services). FWIW, I think we have a solid # of people who did quit.
 
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Apple has done this for as long as I can remember. Easily back before the Intel transition at the very least. The base model never had quite enough RAM or storage or both, and the only option was to quadruple it. They have always very deliberately not offered a sweet spot option.

Hmm... I have a browser plug-in that injects HTML into Amazon product pages listing how much the 3rd party seller or product listing is trusted.

We should make a browser plug-in that tells people how likely their Apple product is to be e-waste on the day its purchased due to Apple cutting back ram or storage or something else to what should be an unacceptable level....
 
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I wouldn't mind this if we could be guaranteed that the money is indeed going to them, and that their pay raises will be nontrivial. Not just "we're giving them a $1 an hour raise", and taking credit for that like it'll have any noticeable impact on their cost of living.

It's not that your specific money is going to them. Money is fungible.

It's that all companies (tech companies, grocery stores, public transportation, consumer goods manufacturers, etc) are experiencing the consequences of inflation.

Higher prices for materials that go into making products, higher shipping rates, higher services (utilities, building leases, fees, etc), and many other things including employee raises and increased costs for employee benefits.

All of that eventually gets passed on to the consumer. Apple is certainly not exempt from that.
 
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I wouldn't mind this if we could be guaranteed that the money is indeed going to them, and that their pay raises will be nontrivial. Not just "we're giving them a $1 an hour raise", and taking credit for that like it'll have any noticeable impact on their cost of living.

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There is no such guarantee. Apple raises the prices and it goes into the coffers to be used as needed.(“fungible”)

You are giving them a $1 a month raise if you cintunue to opt-in to their services.
On the plus side it did help me decide that I can cut that out of my budget entirely. So in the end it saved me money. Thanks Apple!
Everybody has a price to value ratio. Glad you are voting with your $$$ as I am as I find those services worthwhile.
Hmm... I have a browser plug-in that injects HTML into Amazon product pages listing how much the 3rd party seller or product listing is trusted.

We should make a browser plug-in that tells people how likely their Apple product is to be e-waste on the day its purchased due to Apple cutting back ram or storage or something else to what should be an unacceptable level....
I’ll be the first or second to download this from your website.
 
Not really. I buy a lot of vinyl, they’re typically the most expensive compared to smaller sites. Same with PC hardware. Yeah, the shipping is great, but they don’t add anything new to the service and continually look for more ways to add a line item to your bill (Prime Music, Prime Video Channels, etc)
Every couple of years I look at what Prime costs vs what I get from it.
So far I get a lot for not a whole lot compared to similar services. True it is not as "cheap" as it used to be but it is still the most bang for the buck for my usage.

Amazon Prime was one I cancelled a few months back. It can be uneasy, and even scary being without it b/c you're just used to having it, but I can say haven't really missed it thus far. I used it for shipping and Prime Video. For shipping, I'll miss getting my stuff 3 to 6 days sooner, but it's something I can plan ahead. Plus, having $150 a year (after taxes) back in my pocket has been nice (it easily offsets the cost of other streaming services). You can still get free shipping if you combine your orders to $25+. Otherwise, I'm noticing that stuff is about the same price (give or take) on Ebay, or directly from sellers' sites, even after you add in S&H. Prime Video wasn't too shabby, but if I return, it'll be b/c they gave me a "come back" free trial, or sub to just Prime Video for $9 a month instead of $15 a month.
 
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From $2-10/month more for Apple Music and meanwhile:

1. STILL no real "Apple Music" client for Windows
2. No direct integration between the majority of streaming hardware solutions (other than Sonos) and Apple Music (Airplay does NOT count) due to lack of an API

:rolleyes:
For #1, does Apple Music not work well enough through a website? Any specific reason you'd want an app for that? (I'm still in the line of thinking that "apps" are more so for mobile/tablets, but I have used specific software programs on desktop before)

Exactly right. They know that people will pay. I started seeing all this price increases news and just went down my list of subscriptions and made some decisions.

Canceled
Hulu
Apple Music
Apple TV+
Netflix
Funimation
Disney+
Starz

Was paying for all this services and in the end wasn’t using them. If I want to watch a movie here or there, I rent it or buy it. Now I can better use that money for something else instead of throwing it away. Happy before and happier now. If down the line any of them becomes a necessity (which I doubt) then I’ll consider it.
Yikes! Good that you're culling your subs! Dunno about a couple of them, but the rest can add up to $70 per month! A major issue with ss is time being the bottleneck (although I can stand to save the $$ as well). I've since been rotating them, with the only exception is if there are major discounts that I need to take advantage of then. I know some who have whole families or otherwise roommates. It makes more sense for them to pile on ss for variety.
 
Funimation
Yeah, the Crunchyroll pricing is a big shock compared to Funimation. Don’t know when Sony is planning on sunsetting the service, but I’ll give it one more year before I can it. I hope I can keep my grandfather plan for one more charge
 
If your are thinking (considering your options) then you’re not hooked. You’re one of those who make a sound decision fit to your like, budget or needs. The world actually needs more people like that. I’m not complaining on anything. Simply saying that the reason why companies keep raising prices is cuz people simply keep paying. People don’t speak with their wallets as they used to. Some are even happy to pay the extra.
I’m fairly price insensitive and like having my options. That’s why I dropped Sam’s and BJs and joined prime and Costco. I speak with my wallet by buying what I want and enjoy and not buying what I don’t.
 
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There is no such guarantee. Apple raises the prices and it goes into the coffers to be used as needed.(“fungible”)

You are giving them a $1 a month raise if you cintunue to opt-in to their services.

Everybody has a price to value ratio. Glad you are voting with your $$$ as I am as I find those services worthwhile.

I’ll be the first or second to download this from your website.

They might get me back with Apple Music since they know my music tastes since the iPod days. I already have an annual subscription to Fitness+, and maybe when Severance season 2 comes out I'll pick up TV+ again (probably annually.) And there's not much choice but to buy some iCloud storage.

The one thing they won't get is more for Apple One, because every service that's worthwhile is cheaper to subscribe annually (except iCloud ugh) individually. There are even promos that only apply to individual memberships and not Apple One. Apple has really screwed up Apple One, and it's apparent its only reason for existing right now is to prop up Arcade and News and to a lesser extent TV+.
 
It's not that your specific money is going to them. Money is fungible.

It's that all companies (tech companies, grocery stores, public transportation, consumer goods manufacturers, etc) are experiencing the consequences of inflation.

Higher prices for materials that go into making products, higher shipping rates, higher services (utilities, building leases, fees, etc), and many other things including employee raises and increased costs for employee benefits.

All of that eventually gets passed on to the consumer. Apple is certainly not exempt from that.
There are some posts stating that they feel better knowing the $$ is going towards Apple's employees. This indeed is hardly just Apple, so we'd apply the same thing to other companies... that their employees will hopefully be seeing nontrivial raises and bonuses. I don't blame companies for charging more to account for higher of everything else (rent, gas, cost of materials, etc.), but in the vein of "vote with your wallet", whether or not employees get that extra money makes a difference to me. It's one major reason I still stick with Costco over Amazon Prime. Even though I'd get more use out of the latter, the former company treats their employees better (it also helps that that sub is far cheaper).
 
It would be nice if you got reduced rates per number of Apple devices linked to your account. Eg 10% discount if you have an iPad, Mac and watch.
 
It's anecdotal, but FWIW, the people I've known who are voicing their concerns about upped sub costs have long stopped buying coffee at Starbucks or any other coffee shop.

Some are cozy but also quite hooked into the Apple ecosystem. As creatures of comfort, I can't say I blame them. However, major shake ups would truly test those "loyalties" (like with the CASM situation, and Apple's talks of putting more ads in their services). FWIW, I think we have a solid # of people who did quit.
Agreed, though to some people, they defend this behavior so much it's crazy. Quite irritating to hear them say, well if you can afford this or that. The don't realize that the paycheck has not caught up and probably won't, add $2 per subscription, if one has several, this could be a hefty cost. Being comfortable is great but we can't just side with companies on price increases. They're no interested in our economic wellbeing but rather in making more money. If we just pay, they will feel they can do it anytime.
 
Yeah, the Crunchyroll pricing is a big shock compared to Funimation. Don’t know when Sony is planning on sunsetting the service, but I’ll give it one more year before I can it. I hope I can keep my grandfather plan for one more charge
My oldest son still watches some shows but told me not worth keeping crunchyroll. My youngest is just 7 so no need to keep it. I'm saving close yo $90 a month on subscription that I can now use to go and have dinner with the whole family monthly. I'm putting it to good use. LOL.
 
I’m fairly price insensitive and like having my options. That’s why I dropped Sam’s and BJs and joined prime and Costco. I speak with my wallet by buying what I want and enjoy and not buying what I don’t.
That's what is all about.
 
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Heaven forbid a Trillion dollar company make 1 nickel less. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

Apple needs $3 more per month from me to stay in business apparently.

Getting tired of seeing this misguided line of reasoning. How do you think Apple got to be a multi-trillion dollar company? Exactly. Just stop. They're a for-profit business. If enough people are willing to pay the new prices, then what's the issue? You don't feel it's worth it personally? Then find a cheaper service and vote with your wallet. If enough people do that, then Apple will adjust.
 
Amazon Prime was one I cancelled a few months back. It can be uneasy, and even scary being without it b/c you're just used to having it, but I can say haven't really missed it thus far. I used it for shipping and Prime Video. For shipping, I'll miss getting my stuff 3 to 6 days sooner, but it's something I can plan ahead. Plus, having $150 a year (after taxes) back in my pocket has been nice (it easily offsets the cost of other streaming services). You can still get free shipping if you combine your orders to $25+. Otherwise, I'm noticing that stuff is about the same price (give or take) on Ebay, or directly from sellers' sites, even after you add in S&H. Prime Video wasn't too shabby, but if I return, it'll be b/c they gave me a "come back" free trial, or sub to just Prime Video for $9 a month instead of $15 a month.

I hear you and I look at that.
I order a lot and when I add up the cost savings in shipping, the ease of returns, and the ease of handling damaged/lost items, it pays for itself with room to spare. Then I add in Prime Video, Prime Music, Prime only discounts, Whole Foods discounts, food delivery, try it before I buy it, first reads, and other items.

It would require significant effort to come close to matching what I get from Prime based on usage just for shipping never mind the other perks. $139US is a deal for me. It is likely different for others.
 
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